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Might as well have one of these since OT seems more interesting than the usual bickering over live vs. psn.

Now, who wants to talk about how LEET they are? -_-V

thumbing up my thread because I can.

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Man I am so hungry after the last few posts....off to go eat a snack.
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Man I am so hungry after the last few posts....off to go eat a snack.
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I try to eat 4-6 small portions of something a day. I find I am not as hungry throughout the day. I also would rather not eat something at all than to have a few of whatever.

Fasting in most cases leads to eventual binging. And not eating to lose weight will only lower metabolism and use muscle, not fat for fuel. Then when you start to eat normal again, your weight skyrockets cuz your metabolism dropped so low.
I COULD lead to binging, but then again so can just being an undisciplined person.

And no, your metabolism does not slow down, and you do not use muscle for fuel.

The whole idea behind IF is that when you eat your body produces insulin which says "store this food as fat". When you do not eat your body starts producing glucagon which tells your body "ok, lets start accessing those fat stores for energy". Along those lines, when you train while fasted, you use the energy in your muscles (the ones you are working). After a workout is a great time to break the fast because the energy used in your muscles will be replenished first by your food instead of being stored as fat.

I know it sounds weird to everyone I have told about it. I tend to not even bother anymore. We have been told "eat a bunch of small meals" for so long no one questions it. What I do know is that I have lost 55lbs, and gained a TON of strength. I have friends who are nurses who in one breath will say "that starvation thing you are doing is stupid" and in the next breath say "wow you are looking really buff" and comment on my chest and legs and ass.

Oh and an added bonus, I only have to think about one meal a day!
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I tend to agree.. I don't think you start losing muscle nearly as fast as people think. Nor do most people need nearly as much protein as they think they do. If you're a hard gainer its a different story but for normal or larger people who would like to lose weight that's how I feel.
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Just had a yogurt and some granola, should be good to go for a while.
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I COULD lead to binging, but then again so can just being an undisciplined person.

And no, your metabolism does not slow down, and you do not use muscle for fuel.

The whole idea behind IF is that when you eat your body produces insulin which says "store this food as fat". When you do not eat your body starts producing glucagon which tells your body "ok, lets start accessing those fat stores for energy". Along those lines, when you train while fasted, you use the energy in your muscles (the ones you are working). After a workout is a great time to break the fast because the energy used in your muscles will be replenished first by your food instead of being stored as fat.

I know it sounds weird to everyone I have told about it. I tend to not even bother anymore. We have been told "eat a bunch of small meals" for so long no one questions it. What I do know is that I have lost 55lbs, and gained a TON of strength. I have friends who are nurses who in one breath will say "that starvation thing you are doing is stupid" and in the next breath say "wow you are looking really buff" and comment on my chest and legs and ass.

Oh and an added bonus, I only have to think about one meal a day!
If you habitually don't eat, of course your metabolism slows down and eventually your body will use muscle for fuel. It's not an immediate process but it's a natual occurrence in your body to sustain life. That's not to say gourging on one meal a day wouldn't sustain but if for a month you only eat 500 cals a day and you burn 1500 where do you think the other 1000 cals are coming from? Not all fat storage that's for sure cuz with almost any diet you are a target for muscle loss. You can minimize muscle loss by lifting but starving yourself will only speed up the process. That's why people already on a diet have to eat back some of their exercise calories cuz you are already in a calorie deficit. I've accomplished the same with my beliefs and while I do believe daily/weekly cals in/cals out I find eating smaller, more frequent meals works better for me and my appetite control but that didn't go into effect until I read quite a bit on it rather than blindly going with the sheeple and I've lost at most 70lbs and that included a 5 day weight training regimen. In the end it's whatever works for you long term.
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I also find it a little funny when people talk about how their friend barely eats but can't lose weight. I've got news for you: if they aren't losing weight, they're eating.
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Quote from LordOfChaos View Post :
I COULD lead to binging, but then again so can just being an undisciplined person.

And no, your metabolism does not slow down, and you do not use muscle for fuel.

The whole idea behind IF is that when you eat your body produces insulin which says "store this food as fat". When you do not eat your body starts producing glucagon which tells your body "ok, lets start accessing those fat stores for energy". Along those lines, when you train while fasted, you use the energy in your muscles (the ones you are working). After a workout is a great time to break the fast because the energy used in your muscles will be replenished first by your food instead of being stored as fat.

I know it sounds weird to everyone I have told about it. I tend to not even bother anymore. We have been told "eat a bunch of small meals" for so long no one questions it. What I do know is that I have lost 55lbs, and gained a TON of strength. I have friends who are nurses who in one breath will say "that starvation thing you are doing is stupid" and in the next breath say "wow you are looking really buff" and comment on my chest and legs and ass.

Oh and an added bonus, I only have to think about one meal a day!
If it's working for you and you are able to sustain it as part of your life style, then who cares what anyone else thinks? If people are trying to tell you that it's bad for you without considering your own personal genetic make-up then they are just ignorant. They may not be able to handle such a diet (due to insulin sensitivity factors, etc.) but you obviously are proof that you can get results from it. That being said, I still wouldn't say that it's good to do the opposite and recommend it as a diet for everyone. Someone who may be anemic, hypoglycemic, diabetic, hypokalemic, etc should obviously not attempt something like this without first clearing it with their doctors.
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If you habitually don't eat, of course your metabolism slows down and eventually your body will use muscle for fuel. It's not an immediate process but it's a natual occurrence in your body to sustain life. That's not to say gourging on one meal a day wouldn't sustain but if for a month you only eat 500 cals a day and you burn 1500 where do you think the other 1000 cals are coming from? Not all fat storage that's for sure cuz with almost any diet you are a target for muscle loss. You can minimize muscle loss by lifting but starving yourself will only speed up the process. That's why people already on a diet have to eat back some of their exercise calories cuz you are already in a calorie deficit. I've accomplished the same with my beliefs and while I do believe daily/weekly cals in/cals out I find eating smaller, more frequent meals works better for me and my appetite control but that didn't go into effect until I read quite a bit on it rather than blindly going with the sheeple and I've lost at most 70lbs and that included a 5 day weight training regimen. In the end it's whatever works for you long term.
You could be like me where variances in blood sugar can make your appetite vary wildly. There's been days where I've eaten a shitload of syrup soaked pancakes for breakfast only to be starving by noon, or other days where I'll eat like 3 burgers for lunch and completely skip dinner and not even be hungry at all until the next day. That's the main reason why I try my best to stick to a high-protein diet to keep my appetite at bay. I don't eliminate carbs all together but just ones like refined sugars, etc.
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I also find it a little funny when people talk about how their friend barely eats but can't lose weight. I've got news for you: if they aren't losing weight, they're eating.
But that's actually a very common thing in dieting caused from not eating enough. There is a very fine line between dieting and starving.

At first, you eat very little (and by little I mean much lower than it actually takes to lose weight), you lose mad weight, then all of a sudden your weight loss stops, so you lower your cal intake again, only to slow the weight loss process even more. You must eat enough calories to lose weight, otherwise your body does go into starvation mode when it tries to save every bit of fuel that it can.

Then after getting some advice they reluctantly up their calories and whaddyaknow they start losing weight again. I've read enough posts about this on myfitnesspal and just last year it happened to me, knowing it would and when it happened I immediately upped my cals by 300/day and I started losing again. It's a great 'jump start' to weight loss, I lost 15 lbs in 3 weeks before my body quit but in the end it will fail you.


EDIT: just like Godfather said, IMO a protein (meat/fish, not soy or shakes) packed meal keeps me fuller much, much longer
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If it's working for you and you are able to sustain it as part of your life style, then who cares what anyone else thinks? If people are trying to tell you that it's bad for you without considering your own personal genetic make-up then they are just ignorant. They may not be able to handle such a diet (due to insulin sensitivity factors, etc.) but you obviously are proof that you can get results from it. That being said, I still wouldn't say that it's good to do the opposite and recommend it as a diet for everyone. Someone who may be anemic, hypoglycemic, diabetic, hypokalemic, etc should obviously not attempt something like this without first clearing it with their doctors.
You could be like me where variances in blood sugar can make your appetite vary wildly. There's been days where I've eaten a shitload of syrup soaked pancakes for breakfast only to be starving by noon, or other days where I'll eat like 3 burgers for lunch and completely skip dinner and not even be hungry at all until the next day. That's the main reason why I try my best to stick to a high-protein diet to keep my appetite at bay. I don't eliminate carbs all together but just ones like refined sugars, etc.
That actually makes perfect sense. When you eat a lot of sugar and carbs your insulin spikes which over the course if a couple hours can lower your blood sugar to the point your body will tell you to eat more. Eating foods that are height in protein and fat will normally keep you satisfied much longer.
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That actually makes perfect sense. When you eat a lot of sugar and carbs your insulin spikes which over the course if a couple hours can lower your blood sugar to the point your body will tell you to eat more. Eating foods that are height in protein and fat will normally keep you satisfied much longer.
Yup but some people are much more susceptible to these variations in blood sugar than others, and also was part of my point in why I don't think diets like the Intermittent Fasting ones are gonna be sustainable for everybody.
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Tell you what, a big stack of pancakes with a bunch of butter and maple syrup sounds downright delicious right now.
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Quote from Mixmode View Post :
If you habitually don't eat, of course your metabolism slows down and eventually your body will use muscle for fuel. It's not an immediate process but it's a natual occurrence in your body to sustain life. That's not to say gourging on one meal a day wouldn't sustain but if for a month you only eat 500 cals a day and you burn 1500 where do you think the other 1000 cals are coming from? Not all fat storage that's for sure cuz with almost any diet you are a target for muscle loss. You can minimize muscle loss by lifting but starving yourself will only speed up the process. That's why people already on a diet have to eat back some of their exercise calories cuz you are already in a calorie deficit. I've accomplished the same with my beliefs and while I do believe daily/weekly cals in/cals out I find eating smaller, more frequent meals works better for me and my appetite control but that didn't go into effect until I read quite a bit on it rather than blindly going with the sheeple and I've lost at most 70lbs and that included a 5 day weight training regimen. In the end it's whatever works for you long term.
But you are not starving yourself. You are getting your needed calories in a feeding window. You arent going to only eat 500 calories a day, that is nuts! If you are trying to lose weight you will have to use more calories than you consume, but you are right you can go overboard. And I agree with the sheeple thing... Which is why when someone says "eat a bunch of small meals" or "you are eating up muscle" I tend to put my two cents in... guess its kind of pointless though...

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If it's working for you and you are able to sustain it as part of your life style, then who cares what anyone else thinks?
Yeah its a valid point... High Five
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I installed and started playing Dead Island: Riptide. I think it's gonna be awesome. It has all of the same characters from the last game, plus a few more to choose from. You can also import your old character from the first DI.

I also kicked some ass playing Injustice online for the first time last night. I only played 5 matches and lost 1 which I avenged in a rematch. w00t w00t
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