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Last Edited by LifeStyl3r November 15, 2009 at 06:22 AM
Officedepot [officedepot.com] has the MSI A5000-025US 15.6" Laptop for $320 In-Store Only.

This Ebay page [ebay.com] has the best information I can find.[/B]


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Last Edited by Jrav March 15, 2012 at 06:30 PM
BIOS with overclock options/ ctrl-fn swap updated to latest version (X.0T) released 2010-07-26:
http://www.mediafire.com/?bb82vxyu1nepwyo

MSI A5000, and A6000 are based upon the MSI 1683 "Whitebook".

A5000 , A6000 series uses the same motherboard as the 1683 "Whitebook".
A5000 =11-2009 (2010) model=Win7, aka CR500 = Vista 2009 model?

http://www.msiwhitebook.com/produ...S-1683-ID1

Information supplied by Warner from MSI USA:

Vista = Win7
U210 = L2100 (1241)
CR600 = A6000 (1683)
CR500 = A5000 (1683)
CR400 = A4000 (1451)
CX600 = A6005 (1682)
http://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=133088.0

Link to A5000-025US product page on MSI.com = as of 2011-06 I can't find it,Mad typing A5000, A5000-025US does not bring up any hits for me... EEK! (This is not a good sign...I hate companies that once product is superseded you get "Nothing found" when you type in a model number. Typing in A5000-025US should bring up product page- Link to latest bios, drivers. (Tip search for CR500)

EDIT: Found the product page by GOOGLING some more, Google rolled me over to my own posts on Slickdeals in which I had posted links to the product pages for the unit! MSI really needs to update their search engine so it searches all divisions when a model number is typed in. IIRC there are several divisions of MSI and they don't link /forward info between them.
http://www.msimobile.com/level3_p...d=9&id=157

15" ~ 16" (Discontinued) > A5000-025US
Product Number: 9S7-168344-025


Drivers, Bios, manuals: Link on above page rolls over to CR500...
http://www.msi.com/product/nb/CR5...div=Driver

Assemble, disassemble VIDEOS, and PDF's of CR600: (sister unit to A5000)
http://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=132295.0

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Windows 7 x64 =

MSI does not "do "x64, all systems, even ones with 4GB are shipped with 32-bit OS.

Search for posts by Hurt777 - he has a walk thru on installing Win7 x64

EDIT: It appears that x64 drivers are listed now: http://www.msi.com/product/nb/CR5...=Win7%2064

TIP: MSI sources parts from several vendors: Run a app like Belarc Advisor to find out what is in your unit.

Support: Long term impressions

Long term impressions of the unit is good- abit right now I have a problem in which the unit will not come out of sleep mode via any attached USB device due to BIOS is hard-coded to stop monitoring USB ports in Sleep mode.

Post 1199
Can't wake from S3 sleep mode from USB Mouse, keyboard, ehome Infrared Receiver (USBCIR)
http://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=40132411&postcount=1199

Anyone has any info, feel free to post...



MSI sites are tricky to navigate, links go dead:
As I mentioned above about a year and 1/2 after purchase I can't find support pages. Links previously post here are getting 404 errors.

MSI has a forum board .
MSI really needs to do some spring cleaning so to speak- Get some of their tech's posting over there.
- I'd rate it about a 3 out of 10.

What to expect when posting on the MSI forum board:

1: There are more mods than users.
2: If you post anything about x64, BAS (mod) is sure to post his boiler plate response there is no need to run x64, 32 is faster.
3: Mods to post "We don't work for MSI" if you ask a hard question.... if you get a response at all.
4: Most threads lead to a dead end, with the boiler plate "contact MSI support for hard issues".

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RECOVERY DISCS- WARNING, MSI ships product without testing what they sell.

Update the SATA DRIVERS ASAP before you burn the recovery discs ! (Disc burn will fail, or discs will burn but won't work
http://www.msi.com/index.php?func...aq_no=2134
(Crap-ola - 404 error.... What the FAQ, link to the files needed to update the SATA drivers for the burner said there was there was a LARGE number of units affected over several product lines- in which end users would burn the recovery discs only to find out "later" the discs were no good.
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Potential of T3000 CPU

The A5000 is powered by a Intel 1.8 GHz Dual Core Celeron processor. This processor (ranked #98, according to Notebookcheck.com benchmarks [notebookcheck.net], beats the M500 AMD II Processor (rank #99).
You can check out http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php to look at how it compares with others.

T3000 vs Pentium Dual Core T4200. Both are 45 nm "penryn" Core 2 Duo derivatives, with 1MB cache vs. 2MB in the C2D T6500.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inte...al-core.29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...45_nm.29_2

OVERCLOCKING:

A5000/A6000's based upon the MSI-1683 are GOOD OVERCLOCKERS with SVET's modded bios.
Search for posts by SVET (On MSI forum) , Hurtz777 for a detailed step by step overclocking guide.)


Sister units
As stated previously the 1683 motherboard is used on the 5000, and 6000 series. Same motherboard is used on various models.
This laptop is essentially the same as the MSI A5000-026US Notebook that was sold thru Circuit City.

This deal compared to the popular Acer Extensa 5230 a few days ago (2009-11?).

MSI has a Intel Celeron T3000 1.8GHz Processor (rank #98 on Notebookcheck.com benchmarks [notebookcheck.net]) vs the Celeron 900 2.2GHz ranked #181 on the same benchmark test. +1 MSI.
Screen resolution is different because one is 15.6" while the other is 15.4".
3GB DDR2 vs 2GB DDR2 memory. +1 MSI.
250GB HDD vs 160GB HDD. +1 MSI.
MSI Has HDMI. +1 MSI.
MSI has a 4-in1 card reader. +1 MSI.
Acer has 64-bit Win 7. +1 Acer.

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#751
Quote from WeAreNotAlone View Post :
BTW: Check your units to see if they have a label across the bottom access panel that says Warranty Void if tampered and post back.
I opened the back a few days ago to see how difficult it would be to upgrade the cpu (terribly simple) and found no warranty stickers.
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#752
No warranty void stickers externally or internally on mine.
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MSI Engineer just posted a new A5000/A6000 BIOS version X.0N in the MSI HQ User forum. You can get it by going to http://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=132810.0 . You will need to register with the forums to download the attached self-update bootable ISO BIOS for your A5000/A6000. I just burn the bootable ISO and booted from it and the BIOS flash went flawless. Make sure after the flash is done to unplug battery and power for a couple of minutes then plug them both back in and Load System Defaults in BIOS to completely reset BIOS and ECBuild. MSI's tech support is unbelievably responsive by releasing this bios within a couple of hours of my request! I will definitely buy MSI again.
That bios is the same file number as the cr600 bios, is your notebook still saying cr600 or does it say a5000 now. So it has definitely lowered your temps, any other benefits/benchmarks? Gpuz with stock drivers on 32bit windows 7, it says 1600mhz for memory and 25.6gb/s bandwidth. What are you guys getting on 64bit?
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Quote from ghettorc View Post :
That bios is the same file number as the cr600 bios, is your notebook still saying cr600 or does it say a5000 now. So it has definitely lowered your temps, any other benefits/benchmarks? Gpuz with stock drivers on 32bit windows 7, it says 1600mhz for memory and 25.6gb/s bandwidth. What are you guys getting on 64bit?
It says A5000 now from this new BIOS. It is BIOS version A1683NMS V6.0N which is different version then CR600 BIOS but the ECBuild is the same as CR600 at v4.08.
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#755
did you hear word back about the gpu memory designation
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#756
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did you hear word back about the gpu memory designation
No I sure haven't. I think you will need to look into hacking the BIOS and unlock GPU clocks and VGA memory share size. Are you up for the task?
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#757
im down as soon as i can get some time... been working 70 hour weeks :-( on another note, my t9300 should be arriving soon...
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#758
I hope they release a new firmware to allow modification of VGA memory share since even HP laptops can do that, and they are plain vanilla
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#759
I had this laptop from BB and later also got one MSI A5000 from OD .
Both are un-opened. I need to return one of them. Today is the last day to return Best Buy (Acer) one.
Can someone tell me which one has got better built quality, overall look and performance in general. Less driver kinda problems etc.
I need it just for day-to-day use for a non-tech person.
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Quote from p0opstlnksal0t View Post :
im down as soon as i can get some time... been working 70 hour weeks :-( on another note, my t9300 should be arriving soon...
What tool have you used in the past to mod AMIBIOS? I have AMIBCP v3.13 for Windows and I have opened the the stock A1683NMS.60N bios file and the utility shows quite a few advanced options that are disabled for our chipset. You brave souls can get this awesome utility by downloading it from http://www.lejabeach.com/sisubb/AMIBCP313.zip . Now if I can figure out where to go from here. I have also found the option to change VGA Share Size in the under Advanced>Chipset Configuration>SouthBridge Configuration>iGPU Frame Buffer Size. You can choose 32MB to 512MB. I also found all the CPU FSB/FSB-MEMORY RATIO/MEMORY CLOCK/MEMORY TIMINGS settings under Advanced>Chipset Configuration>Northbridge/Performance Options. It is such a tease to have access to all these OC settings. It looks like all you have to do to make them show up in BIOS is click the check boxes next to the categories, save BIOS, and flash. I am just wondering why there are 2 BIOS files that the Flashit.bat runs.
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#761
Warranty is not VOID if you remove your Warranty Void sticker. This has been stated by "Warner" at MSI USA in the official MSI forum @ http://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=132833.0
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I had this laptop from BB and later also got one MSI A5000 from OD .
Both are un-opened. I need to return one of them. Today is the last day to return Best Buy (Acer) one.
Can someone tell me which one has got better built quality, overall look and performance in general. Less driver kinda problems etc.
I need it just for day-to-day use for a non-tech person.
Asking such a question in a MSI thread will most likely result in persons saying the MSI is better. Asking same question in Acer thread- the Acer will be the better choice.

Acer is one of the larger PC manufacturers, MSI is a manufacturer that sells to OEM's such as HP, etc, plus they manufacture and sell motherboards /netbooks/notebooks branded under their own name, plus video cards, etc.
(Additionally they sell "barebone" whitebooks (Build you own).

Impressions of the MSI A5000-025US:
MSI seems very responsive to end users. The unit itself appears to be well made. I'm impressed with the look, the build quality, and performance of the A5000-025US. Unit runs cool, and makes very little noise.
Performance, while running Prime95 with both CPU cores running at 100% load, with Firefox with approximately 70 tabs open the system is very responsive. (This I would assume is due to WIN_7)

* Note if build quality is your main concern I'd look into a "business-class, instead of a consumer machine. Maybe a Lenovo (IBM ThinkPad)...

Business class machines have features such as magnesium frames, anti-shock hd framework which helps the unit survive falls that would shatter /render useless a consumer grade unit.
Business class machines also have a replicator port that ties in with a docking port that replicates all in/outs of the PC, all while charging the battery via (1) connection. They additionally have as a rule batteries of extra capacity available /more powerful power bricks, more run time than a consumer type machine.

I'd suggest if you haven't done so to find a place (Office Depot?) to see a MSI in person and compare it to the Acer. Note that hardly anyone is going to have a A5000 in stock, they may have the A6000...
Beyond that compare the spec's between the units, and maybe compare pricing of a spare power brick, spare/replacement battery against your needs.
You may find a battery for the A5000 (CR500/CR600 MSI-1683 "barebones whitebook" is $100, and battery for other unit is half that amount. If you use your unit on battery power allot of the time a spare battery pack is a issue, if not it's not.

PS: It's a good idea to post model numbers of units you are comparing, along with links to specs, with a listing of your needs when asking for help.

For me the A5000 is a pretty sweet unit. You mention not being technical... a nice feature of the A5000 is that it does disassemble easily, the motherboard is used across several products in the MSI lineup, and it appears the BIOS is not locked so you can drop in a more powerful cpu if needed.

If you notice in this thread there are people reporting success with overclocking, and swapping different cpu's into this unit being "excited" about the A5000.

Why should you buy a unit that can be "modded' if you''re going to run it stock?

Answer is simple, those persons who are into overclocking will find work-arounds to get the unit to *overclock- Unit being modifiable makes that unit popular, and that tied with persons being "excited" about their unit will help if future problems develop, over a unit that has all the personally of a toaster. (EG is not modifiable.)

Another aspect...Popular units=more people selling replacement parts, more parts sold the lower the cost..

3-year warranty is a big issue....

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A5000 Tip: To disable touchpad while typing, Press FN & F3 to toggle on and off.

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#763
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What tool have you used in the past to mod AMIBIOS? I have AMIBCP v3.13 for Windows and I have opened the the stock A1683NMS.60N bios file and the utility shows quite a few advanced options that are disabled for our chipset. You brave souls can get this awesome utility by downloading it from http://www.lejabeach.com/sisubb/AMIBCP313.zip . Now if I can figure out where to go from here. I have also found the option to change VGA Share Size in the under Advanced>Chipset Configuration>SouthBridge Configuration>iGPU Frame Buffer Size. You can choose 32MB to 512MB. I also found all the CPU FSB/FSB-MEMORY RATIO/MEMORY CLOCK/MEMORY TIMINGS settings under Advanced>Chipset Configuration>Northbridge/Performance Options. It is such a tease to have access to all these OC settings. It looks like all you have to do to make them show up in BIOS is click the check boxes next to the categories, save BIOS, and flash. I am just wondering why there are 2 BIOS files that the Flashit.bat runs.
this does appear to be quite simple to modify this bios. i will attempt it this weekend hopefully. as long as i have a backup bios to flash back over if my lappie doesnt post Wink
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#764
it appears to be 2 bios files in the listed .rar link at msi for the a5000... there is a a1683nms.8n and a1683nms.60n bios files
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Quote from p0opstlnksal0t View Post :
it appears to be 2 bios files in the listed .rar link at msi for the a5000... there is a a1683nms.8n and a1683nms.60n bios files
I wonder if one is for the main BIOS and the other for the ECBuild BIOS? I would think all you would have to do is edit both files and check the boxes of features you want to be shown in BIOS, save the new file with the same filename and run flashit.bat and it should all work perfect! Anyone willing to try this to get extra function? Just use the tool I posted above in last post.
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