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Last Edited by LifeStyl3r November 15, 2009 at 06:22 AM
Officedepot [officedepot.com] has the MSI A5000-025US 15.6" Laptop for $320 In-Store Only.

This Ebay page [ebay.com] has the best information I can find.[/B]


Specifications
# Intel® Celeron T3000 processor 1.8GHz
# 15.6" WXGA widescreen LCD (1366 x 768 resolution)
# 3 GB DDR2 memory (2 Dimm)
# 250GB hard drive capacity
# Supermulti DVD-RW optical drive
# 802.11b/g/n WLAN
# 1.3 megapixel webcam
# Nvidia GeForce 8200M-G video graphics
# HD audio with 2 speakers
# HDMI port
# 3 USB 2.0 ports
# 4-in-1 card reader
# PCI Express slot
# VGA port
# 103-key keyboard
# 65-watt AC adapter
# 6 cell battery
# Windows 7 Home Premium

* Dimensions: 13.66" x 9.68" x 1.4"
* Unit Weight: 5.24 lbs.

Product Warranty:

* 3 year limited warranty.
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Last Edited by Jrav March 15, 2012 at 06:30 PM
BIOS with overclock options/ ctrl-fn swap updated to latest version (X.0T) released 2010-07-26:
http://www.mediafire.com/?bb82vxyu1nepwyo

MSI A5000, and A6000 are based upon the MSI 1683 "Whitebook".

A5000 , A6000 series uses the same motherboard as the 1683 "Whitebook".
A5000 =11-2009 (2010) model=Win7, aka CR500 = Vista 2009 model?

http://www.msiwhitebook.com/produ...S-1683-ID1

Information supplied by Warner from MSI USA:

Vista = Win7
U210 = L2100 (1241)
CR600 = A6000 (1683)
CR500 = A5000 (1683)
CR400 = A4000 (1451)
CX600 = A6005 (1682)
http://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=133088.0

Link to A5000-025US product page on MSI.com = as of 2011-06 I can't find it,Mad typing A5000, A5000-025US does not bring up any hits for me... EEK! (This is not a good sign...I hate companies that once product is superseded you get "Nothing found" when you type in a model number. Typing in A5000-025US should bring up product page- Link to latest bios, drivers. (Tip search for CR500)

EDIT: Found the product page by GOOGLING some more, Google rolled me over to my own posts on Slickdeals in which I had posted links to the product pages for the unit! MSI really needs to update their search engine so it searches all divisions when a model number is typed in. IIRC there are several divisions of MSI and they don't link /forward info between them.
http://www.msimobile.com/level3_p...d=9&id=157

15" ~ 16" (Discontinued) > A5000-025US
Product Number: 9S7-168344-025


Drivers, Bios, manuals: Link on above page rolls over to CR500...
http://www.msi.com/product/nb/CR5...div=Driver

Assemble, disassemble VIDEOS, and PDF's of CR600: (sister unit to A5000)
http://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=132295.0

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Windows 7 x64 =

MSI does not "do "x64, all systems, even ones with 4GB are shipped with 32-bit OS.

Search for posts by Hurt777 - he has a walk thru on installing Win7 x64

EDIT: It appears that x64 drivers are listed now: http://www.msi.com/product/nb/CR5...=Win7%2064

TIP: MSI sources parts from several vendors: Run a app like Belarc Advisor to find out what is in your unit.

Support: Long term impressions

Long term impressions of the unit is good- abit right now I have a problem in which the unit will not come out of sleep mode via any attached USB device due to BIOS is hard-coded to stop monitoring USB ports in Sleep mode.

Post 1199
Can't wake from S3 sleep mode from USB Mouse, keyboard, ehome Infrared Receiver (USBCIR)
http://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=40132411&postcount=1199

Anyone has any info, feel free to post...



MSI sites are tricky to navigate, links go dead:
As I mentioned above about a year and 1/2 after purchase I can't find support pages. Links previously post here are getting 404 errors.

MSI has a forum board .
MSI really needs to do some spring cleaning so to speak- Get some of their tech's posting over there.
- I'd rate it about a 3 out of 10.

What to expect when posting on the MSI forum board:

1: There are more mods than users.
2: If you post anything about x64, BAS (mod) is sure to post his boiler plate response there is no need to run x64, 32 is faster.
3: Mods to post "We don't work for MSI" if you ask a hard question.... if you get a response at all.
4: Most threads lead to a dead end, with the boiler plate "contact MSI support for hard issues".

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RECOVERY DISCS- WARNING, MSI ships product without testing what they sell.

Update the SATA DRIVERS ASAP before you burn the recovery discs ! (Disc burn will fail, or discs will burn but won't work
http://www.msi.com/index.php?func...aq_no=2134
(Crap-ola - 404 error.... What the FAQ, link to the files needed to update the SATA drivers for the burner said there was there was a LARGE number of units affected over several product lines- in which end users would burn the recovery discs only to find out "later" the discs were no good.
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Potential of T3000 CPU

The A5000 is powered by a Intel 1.8 GHz Dual Core Celeron processor. This processor (ranked #98, according to Notebookcheck.com benchmarks [notebookcheck.net], beats the M500 AMD II Processor (rank #99).
You can check out http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php to look at how it compares with others.

T3000 vs Pentium Dual Core T4200. Both are 45 nm "penryn" Core 2 Duo derivatives, with 1MB cache vs. 2MB in the C2D T6500.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inte...al-core.29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...45_nm.29_2

OVERCLOCKING:

A5000/A6000's based upon the MSI-1683 are GOOD OVERCLOCKERS with SVET's modded bios.
Search for posts by SVET (On MSI forum) , Hurtz777 for a detailed step by step overclocking guide.)


Sister units
As stated previously the 1683 motherboard is used on the 5000, and 6000 series. Same motherboard is used on various models.
This laptop is essentially the same as the MSI A5000-026US Notebook that was sold thru Circuit City.

This deal compared to the popular Acer Extensa 5230 a few days ago (2009-11?).

MSI has a Intel Celeron T3000 1.8GHz Processor (rank #98 on Notebookcheck.com benchmarks [notebookcheck.net]) vs the Celeron 900 2.2GHz ranked #181 on the same benchmark test. +1 MSI.
Screen resolution is different because one is 15.6" while the other is 15.4".
3GB DDR2 vs 2GB DDR2 memory. +1 MSI.
250GB HDD vs 160GB HDD. +1 MSI.
MSI Has HDMI. +1 MSI.
MSI has a 4-in1 card reader. +1 MSI.
Acer has 64-bit Win 7. +1 Acer.

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#1051
Quote from p0opstlnksal0t View Post :
dont see anywhere for bluetooth plugin on board... wtf...
How far did you strip the unit down? It's one of the last things to remove when stripping the unit.

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#1052
Quote from WeAreNotAlone View Post :
How far did you strip the unit down? It's one of the last things to remove when stripping the unit.

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guess i need to actually rip it apart, lol, i just popped the cover
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#1053
Quote from p0opstlnksal0t View Post :
guess i need to actually rip it apart, lol, i just popped the cover
A5000, and A6000 are based upon the MSI 1683 "Whitebook"

Assemble, disassemble VIDEOS, and PDF's of CR600:
http://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=132295.0

Information supplied by Warner from MSI USA:

Vista vs Win7
U210 = L2100 (1241)
CR600 = A6000 (1683)
CR500 = A5000 (1683)
CR400 = A4000 (1451)
CX600 = A6005 (1682)
http://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=133088.0


PS: Everyone should create a THREAD asking MSI to get up off their rears and provide official x64 drivers /support. (Yes I know these systems "shipped" with 32-bit, 3GB of ram, thing is MSI puts 32-bit on 4gb systems as well!) While I don't think MSI will ever provide x64 support in the full sense we can still as a group put pressure on MSI to provide unofficial drivers if nothing else. Surely MSI has plans for going to x64 soon because 95% of all PC's that have been shipped for the past 6+months or so have been shipped with 4gb or more of ram, Vista x64, or Win 7 x64.

Maybe MSI plans on finally going to x64 with Windows 8?
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#1054
Quote from PhoDacBiet View Post :
Bought a pair, so I guess we'll find out soon, shipped already too, heart amazon prime.
I just pulled the trigger too, you will probably get it before me, tell me how it goes! Cool
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#1055
Quote from eVilfRidAy View Post :
I just pulled the trigger too, you will probably get it before me, tell me how it goes! Cool
I got in on it also. mine is arriving tomorrrow! drool
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#1056
Quote from PhoDacBiet View Post :
Bought a pair, so I guess we'll find out soon, shipped already too, heart amazon prime.
Quote from eVilfRidAy View Post :
I just pulled the trigger too, you will probably get it before me, tell me how it goes! Cool
Quote from Keeeeeeeevo View Post :
I got in on it also. mine is arriving tomorrrow! drool
RE: Modules to max out installed ram to 4gb.

I would assume that you will be running Windows_7_x64 ?

While using unofficial /hacked drivers is doable - Having manufacturer support is preferable. (For reasons beyond just the drivers themselves)

Everyone that is running (or wanting to run) x64 should head on over the the MSI fourms, create a THREAD asking,demanding,requesting MSI invest a little time in rounding up info /drivers for those wanting to run x64.

The more people that create a thread on the MSI forums requests that MSI get up off their rears and start working on x64 drivers the better.
(Squeaky wheel gets the grease)

PS: The more people that bug MSI now means the sooner the "next MSI deal" comes with x64, 4GB.


http://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?board=46.0



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Last edited by WeAreNotAlone December 11, 2009 at 04:04 PM
#1057
Quote from WeAreNotAlone View Post :
RE: Modules to max out installed ram to 4gb.

I would assume that you will be running Windows_7_x64 ?

While using unofficial /hacked drivers is doable - Having manufacturer support is preferable. (For reasons beyond just the drivers themselves)

Everyone that is running (or wanting to run) x64 should head on over the the MSI fourms, create a THREAD asking,demanding,requesting MSI invest a little time in rounding up info /drivers for those wanting to run x64.

The more people that create a thread on the MSI forums requests that MSI get up off their rears and start working on x64 drivers the better.
(Squeaky wheel gets the grease)

PS: The more people that bug MSI now means the sooner the "next MSI deal" comes with x64, 4GB.


http://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?board=46.0



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Excuse me for my ignorance, but what drivers am I using on Win 7 x64 that are not official? Even the CD that came with this computer had a x64 folder Confused Again, I might be wrong, but are there any components in this computer (less the motherboard) that are manufactured by MSI and not by a third-party company like nVIDIA, etc.?
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#1058
im gonna have to replace this dvd burner, it seems to only work 1/4 of the time! wtf... this LiteOn drive is horrid.
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#1059
quick question for you guys. If I plan on overclocking and upgrading to windows 64bit. Which order do i go? OC then 64 or 6 then OC? thanks
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#1060
Quote from Keeeeeeeevo View Post :
quick question for you guys. If I plan on overclocking and upgrading to windows 64bit. Which order do i go? OC then 64 or 6 then OC? thanks
I upgraded first to x64 then OC'd, but I'm not sure it makes a difference because the OC'ing is done on the hardware end, where Win 7 x64 is the software
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#1061
Quote from eVilfRidAy View Post :
Excuse me for my ignorance, but what drivers am I using on Win 7 x64 that are not official? Even the CD that came with this computer had a x64 folder Confused Again, I might be wrong, but are there any components in this computer (less the motherboard) that are manufactured by MSI and not by a third-party company like nVIDIA, etc.?
Go to http://www.msimobile.com/ Go to your units product page.

Note there are NO listings for Win_7_x64 drivers.
x64 is not supported- hence whatever drivers on the cd are provided without "support".
The interaction of the various components on how they interact which each other and the chipsets on the motherboard have not been tested/ "certified".

Generic "official" drivers from Nivida, etc...
A example of using "Official" drivers that while "Official" don't interact with the hardware properly is the thousands of A5000, A6000 series units (and others) being shipped with drivers that wouldn't even allow users to burn recovery discs..

http://www.msi.com/index.php?func...aq_no=2134

Affected units:

CR400, CR500, CR600, CR700, VR705, A5000, A6000, MSI 1683 "Whitebook", etc.

Vista = Win7
U210 = L2100 (1241)
CR600 = A6000 (1683)
CR500 = A5000 (1683)
CR400 = A4000 (1451)
CX600 = A6005 (1682)

Potential risk of optical drive issues were identified. The symptom may vary with different optical drives.
1. Slow CD/DVD read time
2. Slow read time of Right Click Menu
3. Not be able to burn onto blank media with Windows.
4. Get errors when using MSI Burn Recovery
5. Close WinDVD and re-open it after play DVD for a while, and the program will not recognize the DVD disc
6. Optical Drive Auto Eject or Open Feature does not work by double click on the drive icon
Answer
Please download and install updated chipset driver version 15.50 from msi global website to fix it
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Now keeping the above in mind, imagine drivers that interact with the hard drive, and the controller chipset aren't talking to each other properly...all the time...
BTW:The above 'dvd" drivers are for the SATA controller chipset. HD is SATA.
(I've experienced data loss from such bugs- so I tend to prefer that the "assembler" of the product "test" /certify units.)

Q: Would you trust irreplaceable pictures of your first born child, videos of your wedding, etc to the same level of testing that was done on the above SATA drivers? Those drivers were "official"... thing is they didn't work.

Ask your wife about losing the pic's of first born, wedding video... Ask her if she'd prefer "generic", or "certified" drivers..

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#1062
Quick question for you guys.

Went to take a leak and the new puppy went up and started chewing the power cord. There is a small tear in the cord and i was wiggling it and a small spark came out. farking dog .

I remember someone saything that theres 1 year accidental warranty, would this apply?

If now anyone know how much a new adapter would be. She chewed the thinner diameter of the power cord. Thanks
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Quote from WeAreNotAlone View Post :
Go to http://www.msimobile.com/ Go to your units product page.

Note there are NO listings for Win_7_x64 drivers.
x64 is not supported- hence whatever drivers on the cd are provided without "support".
The interaction of the various components on how they interact which each other and the chipsets on the motherboard have not been tested/ "certified".

Generic "official" drivers from Nivida, etc...
A example of using "Official" drivers that while "Official" don't interact with the hardware properly is the thousands of A5000, A6000 series units (and others) being shipped with drivers that wouldn't even allow users to burn recovery discs..

http://www.msi.com/index.php?func...aq_no=2134

Affected units:

CR400, CR500, CR600, CR700, VR705, A5000, A6000, MSI 1683 "Whitebook", etc.

Vista = Win7
U210 = L2100 (1241)
CR600 = A6000 (1683)
CR500 = A5000 (1683)
CR400 = A4000 (1451)
CX600 = A6005 (1682)

Potential risk of optical drive issues were identified. The symptom may vary with different optical drives.
1. Slow CD/DVD read time
2. Slow read time of Right Click Menu
3. Not be able to burn onto blank media with Windows.
4. Get errors when using MSI Burn Recovery
5. Close WinDVD and re-open it after play DVD for a while, and the program will not recognize the DVD disc
6. Optical Drive Auto Eject or Open Feature does not work by double click on the drive icon
Answer
Please download and install updated chipset driver version 15.50 from msi global website to fix it
******************************

Now keeping the above in mind, imagine drivers that interact with the hard drive, and the controller chipset aren't talking to each other properly...all the time...
BTW:The above 'dvd" drivers are for the SATA controller chipset. HD is SATA.
(I've experienced data loss from such bugs- so I tend to prefer that the "assembler" of the product "test" /certify units.)

Q: Would you trust irreplaceable pictures of your first born child, videos of your wedding, etc to the same level of testing that was done on the above SATA drivers? Those drivers were "official"... thing is they didn't work.

Ask your wife about losing the pic's of first born, wedding video... Ask her if she'd prefer "generic", or "certified" drivers..

.
You're right, it's wrong for MSI to release computers with no support of x64 at all. On top of that, releasing computers with faulty drivers is even worse. But using a software like Everest, you can identify all the parts of the computer and get the correct "official" drivers for x64. True, they are not official, but "official" is always outdated. The time it takes for a specific driver to get "certified" by MSI, an updated, potentially better driver is released by the third-party company (eg. nVIDIA) and the people who follow only "certified" drivers will know at a much later time, or will never know if MSI doesn't keep up.

Again, I'm not defending MSI, and I do support the cause of pushing MSI to release official x64 drivers for their computers.
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#1064
Quote from eVilfRidAy View Post :
You're right, it's wrong for MSI to release computers with no support of x64 at all. On top of that, releasing computers with faulty drivers is even worse. But using a software like Everest, you can identify all the parts of the computer and get the correct "official" drivers for x64. True, they are not official, but "official" is always outdated. The time it takes for a specific driver to get "certified" by MSI, an updated, potentially better driver is released by the third-party company (eg. nVIDIA) and the people who follow only "certified" drivers will know at a much later time, or will never know if MSI doesn't keep up.

Again, I'm not defending MSI, and I do support the cause of pushing MSI to release official x64 drivers for their computers.
Yep, takes time to certify a driver, and yes certified drivers always lag behind "generic" drivers. That's a given.

Will a system work with generic drivers?, Yes but the chances of a generic driver working 110% without some type of conflict is bound to happen until several driver revisions have occurred.

Moving on,
Everyone even if they have no plans currently to migrate to Windows_7_x64 now from the as-shipped 32-bit OS should be bugging MSI for x64 drivers.
(x64 is poised to dominate over 32-bit as most units from the past 6 months+ have been shipping with a x64 OS.)

Will MSI exert any effort to provide drivers for systems they shipped with a 32-bit OS?
Unlikely but we have a "golden opportunity" here due to the popularity of the various MSI units that have been posted here recently in multiple MSI A5000 / A6000 threads to "Band Together" and petition MSI for "tested" x64 drivers.


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Tools used by the Bill Gates unpaid Beta testing team.
(EG: Everyone running a system with un-certified drivers/apps)

SIW - System Information for Windows
Everything you want to know about your computer

http://www.gtopala.com/
http://www.portablefreeware.com/?id=159

SIW is an advanced System Information for Windows tool that gathers detailed information about your system properties and settings and displays it in an extremely comprehensible manner.

SIW can create a report file (CSV, HTML, TXT or XML), and is able to run in batch mode (for Computer Software and Hardware Inventory, Asset Inventory Tracking, Audit Software Licenses, Software License Compliance).

The system information is divided into few major categories:

* Software Inventory: Operating System, Installed Software and Hotfixes, Processes, Services, Users, Open Files, System Uptime, Installed Codecs, Software Licenses (Product Keys / Serial Numbers / CD Key), Secrets (Password Recovery).
* Hardware Inventory: Motherboard, Sensors, BIOS, CPU, chipset, PCI/AGP, USB and ISA/PnP Devices, Memory, Video Card, Monitor, Disk Drives, CD/DVD Devices, SCSI Devices, S.M.A.R.T., Ports, Printers.
* Network Information: Network Cards, Network Shares, currently active Network Connections, Open Ports.
* Network Tools: MAC Address Changer, Neighborhood Scan, Ping, Trace, Statistics
* Miscellaneous Tools: Eureka! (Reveal lost passwords hidden behind asterisks), Monitor Test, Shutdown / Restart.
* Real-time monitors: CPU, Memory, Page File usage and Network Traffic.

SIW is a standalone utility that does not require installation (Portable Freeware)

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WinAudit Freeware v2.28.2 - PC Audit & Inventory Software
http://www.pxserver.com/WinAudit.htm

PC audit and inventory of software, licenses, security configuration, hardware, network settings...
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#1065
cannot get my bluetooth module working... guess the qbtm300 module is the wrong one.
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