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Santa Barbara murders
May 26, 2014 at
05:56 AM
Hundreds gathered at a memorial service Sunday night to mourn six young people killed two nights earlier by a gunman in a California college town.
Elliot Rodger, 22, the son of a Hollywood director, fatally stabbed three people in his apartment before shooting dead three others on Friday in Isla Vista, near the University of California at Santa Barbara campus. He then shot himself.
Rodger killed two women and four men, aged 19 to 22, and wounded 13 people, including eight who he shot as he sped through town in his black BMW, exchanging fire with police, authorities said.
Minutes before opening fire the former community college student emailed his plans to some 30 people including his mother, father and former teachers, said Cathleen Bloeser, whose son was a childhood friend of Rodger and received a copy.
Rodger stated his intention to kill his housemates, lure others to his home to continue the mayhem then slaughter women in a sorority and bring his spree to the streets of Isla Vista.
The manifesto, which details Rodger's fear that his guns might have been discovered when police visited him less than a month ago, was not the first indication of a troubled mind.
Linky [chicagotribune.com]
Am I the only one who sees the results of raising a self-esteem based "everyone gets a trophy" generation here? When everyone gets a trophy and every child is constantly told that they are special and everything they do is amazing, they never learn how to deal with rejection and failure. Failure is part of life and shielding children from it to preserve their self esteem is like smothering your child in antibiotics their whole life to protect them from getting sick and then wondering why they have no immune system when they grow up. If a child never learns how to cope with losing and being wrong, when they reach adulthood they don't have the mental faculties to deal with the failure they will invariably encounter in their adult lives. The guy who shot those innocent people in Santa Barbara claims that it was revenge for being rejected by the girls and the popular kids at his college. I was rejected by girls and popular kids my entire life and shooting a bunch of people never entered my mind. Maybe instead of giving our kids a trophy when they lose, we should teach them that losing is a part of life and give them the tools that they need to cope with failure, learn from it, and then get on with their lives.
Just a thought.
I hope this thread doesn't end up in The Place That Shall Not Be Named.
Elliot Rodger, 22, the son of a Hollywood director, fatally stabbed three people in his apartment before shooting dead three others on Friday in Isla Vista, near the University of California at Santa Barbara campus. He then shot himself.
Rodger killed two women and four men, aged 19 to 22, and wounded 13 people, including eight who he shot as he sped through town in his black BMW, exchanging fire with police, authorities said.
Minutes before opening fire the former community college student emailed his plans to some 30 people including his mother, father and former teachers, said Cathleen Bloeser, whose son was a childhood friend of Rodger and received a copy.
Rodger stated his intention to kill his housemates, lure others to his home to continue the mayhem then slaughter women in a sorority and bring his spree to the streets of Isla Vista.
The manifesto, which details Rodger's fear that his guns might have been discovered when police visited him less than a month ago, was not the first indication of a troubled mind.
Linky [chicagotribune.com]
Am I the only one who sees the results of raising a self-esteem based "everyone gets a trophy" generation here? When everyone gets a trophy and every child is constantly told that they are special and everything they do is amazing, they never learn how to deal with rejection and failure. Failure is part of life and shielding children from it to preserve their self esteem is like smothering your child in antibiotics their whole life to protect them from getting sick and then wondering why they have no immune system when they grow up. If a child never learns how to cope with losing and being wrong, when they reach adulthood they don't have the mental faculties to deal with the failure they will invariably encounter in their adult lives. The guy who shot those innocent people in Santa Barbara claims that it was revenge for being rejected by the girls and the popular kids at his college. I was rejected by girls and popular kids my entire life and shooting a bunch of people never entered my mind. Maybe instead of giving our kids a trophy when they lose, we should teach them that losing is a part of life and give them the tools that they need to cope with failure, learn from it, and then get on with their lives.
Just a thought.
I hope this thread doesn't end up in The Place That Shall Not Be Named.
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--update: new link as the other appears to be deleted. PDF format [scribd.com]. or for those who don't trust me, here [mirror.co.uk] is an article containing the link that I posted.
I had a bad night last night and I didn't shoot the lounge up.
I had a bad night last night and I did shoot the lounge up.
People shouldn't rely on others to define who they are and their self worth.
Just a thought.
public schoolsindoctrination centers is destroying out country and you roll your eyes and tell me that not everything has to do with politics.Stabs three to death, runs over one, shoots three more to death... And gun laws are to blame. In California.
Sigh. Dude should have been 5051'd, and this wouldn't have happened.
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public schoolsindoctrination centers is destroying out country and you roll your eyes and tell me that not everything has to do with politics.I had a bad night last night and I did shoot the lounge up.
People shouldn't rely on others to define who they are and their self worth.
Stabs three to death, runs over one, shoots three more to death... And gun laws are to blame. In California.
Sigh. Dude should have been 5051'd, and this wouldn't have happened.
public schoolsindoctrination centers is destroying out country and you roll your eyes and tell me that not everything has to do with politics.public schoolsindoctrination centers is destroying out country and you roll your eyes and tell me that not everything has to do with politics.Stabs three to death, runs over one, shoots three more to death... And gun laws are to blame. In California.
Sigh. Dude should have been 5051'd, and this wouldn't have happened.
ITS ALL YOUR GUYS" FAULT