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Civil Servants Find Themselves Cast in Unlikely Role -- Fat Cats
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http://www.usatoday.com/money/eco...0_ST_N.htm
![]() It's more about this than teacher's salaries. What the data show: •Benefits. Federal workers received average benefits worth $41,791 in 2009. Most of this was the government's contribution to pensions. Employees contributed an additional $10,569. •Pay. The average federal salary has grown 33% faster than inflation since 2000. USA TODAY reported in March that the federal government pays an average of 20% more than private firms for comparable occupations. The analysis did not consider differences in experience and education. •Total compensation. Federal compensation has grown 36.9% since 2000 after adjusting for inflation, compared with 8.8% for private workers. Last edited by Xygonn; 08-12-2010 at 09:35 AM.. |
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"Meanwhile, some 25 percent of all public teachers aren't even eligible for Social Security because of opt-out provisions certain states agreed to in the 1980s. "
As someone who knows a bunch of teachers I have to say that this right here is complete and utter BS. You work for a # of years and pay in to SS for more than 40 quarters but you don't get to collect SS like the rest of us. Well, technically you can but they reduce your pension payment by that amount so in reality you don't get it. Meanwhile a ton of other public employees are receiving both a pension and SS and those lucky enough in private to get a pension also get SS. I don't doubt that it's not a bad gig working for the federal gov't right now but those charts that make it look like they all make 2x as much as the rest of us are pretty damn misleading. I wonder if those serving in the armed services are included because we all know they make jack shit and would probably hugely bring the #'s down s they are probably excluded in these compensation comparisons... |
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Farking hilarious how biased the OP chose to edited the article... into a teacher bashing thread
Here is the EXACT jobs noted by Abcnews : Teachers, Cops and Firefighters Confront Growing Backlash Over Benefits Obviously the OP got no problem with COPS and Firefighter sucking up benefits... but ooh teachers LET GET THEM !!!! http://abcnews.go.com/Business/pe...d=11379944 Here's more of the abc coverage this OP decided to edited to suit his/her complaint
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Typical ![]() But when it comes to teacher bashing...... count on it |
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I don't even need to take Ryu-bom off my ignore list to know he made a post that made absolutely no sense. Do they ever?
How are teachers abusing the system or how was I bashing teachers? And oh, I don't even need to see your reply yet again to know that you're talking out of your ass. They really need to make a talking out of your ass smiley... |
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We hear all the headlines, but this is what you really need to know....
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The Abcnews article refers to TEACHERS, COPS and FIREFIGHTERS who all recieved a nice bailout... But then the OP decided to ignore the cops and firefighter and choose to single out the teachers for bashing... comprende...... |
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If they truly retire with both a pension from a state system and social security, they can collect the full amount from both (meaning whatever amount they were eligible for from SS based on age) regardless of how much the pension is. It would be interesting to see if the military was included, and if so, how they figured their total salaries. I do not think it would effect it as much as many think. If you include pay, housing allowances, food allowances or meals provided, cost of health insurance for the soldier and family etc etc... even an E-1 has the potential to break the 40k mark. It would depend on how they value the free housing or BAQ in lieu of housing, and how they account for a single soldier versus a married soldier with 4 or 5 kids all receiving free health and dental care. Since the bulk of the military is going to fall in the E-1 to E-4 category, it would seem to drag down the average, I am just not sure by how much. |
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It's quite apparent which party he votes for in elections. So, I find it a bit odd that every time the dems want to pass some new huge spending bill with borrowed money, which two groups do they claim it's for...? Teachers and police-men. For real, if democrats ran the Titanic back in the day, they'd be saving NOT the women and children, but the teachers and policemen on-board. Very odd for the guy whom is arguably the most anti-cop on the board. The truth: Management at IRS can blame themselves and how they have chaotic and poor management, but God-forbid you, or I, or anybody else in America gets audited and doesn't have their ducks in order and s***-together, your ass is going to court or jail.
Shout out to Congressman Mike Kelly for stating it as it is... Link [realclearpolitics.com] |
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This particular bailout is limited to education spending. No cops and firefighters. Cops of course will get their own. OBAMA will make it happen since he wants their votes. Last edited by Krazen1211; 08-13-2010 at 06:12 AM.. |
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Other liberals might be water carriers for the administration, but at least they have consistent beliefs in that regard. Mr. Ryu-born apparently hates the administration's policy and the administration's core constituencies but parrots them anyway. It's actually impossible to figure out what he believes, other than cops are bad. |
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