How A GOP November Victory Could Bring Its Death

Hopefully GOP leadership is listening...This November (and 2012) will be their last chance.

http://www.americanthinker.com/20...y_cou.html
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Quote : How A GOP November Victory Could Bring Its Death If the GOP gains control of one or both Houses of Congress in the November midterm elections, and then does not make good on its promises to reverse and counter the Democrats' socialist agenda, we could hear the death knell that signals the end of the Grand Old Party. .... If the GOP wins in November and betrays the voters again, then the gangly teenager [Tea Party] will morph into an adult, into a political party, because there won't be any other choice left. Should Republicans be in a celebratory mood on the evening of November 2, they will do well to temper their joy with this sobering thought: Fool us once, shame on you. Fool us twice, and we're done with you.

"last" chance. Kind of dramatic don'tcha think???

Personally I think we need some more parties that actually have a serious chance at winning. Perhaps a socially liberal yet fiscally conservative party???

'last chance' in that as the article argues, those they betray will likely formalize a new party, maybe/maybe not under the Tea Party banner, forever leaving the GOP out of office, as most (although not all) membership and support of this new party will be drawn from the GOP, leaving them a rump party consisting mostly of socialists-lite

I'm votin republican

Quote from LivninSC : "last" chance. Kind of dramatic don'tcha think??? Personally I think we need some more parties that actually have a serious chance at winning. Perhaps a socially liberal yet fiscally conservative party???

Wow, wouldn't that be a novel concept. I know I would vote for them.
(I generally vote libertian even though they normal don't have any realistic chance in winning).

Quote from LivninSC : "last" chance. Kind of dramatic don'tcha think??? Personally I think we need some more parties that actually have a serious chance at winning. Perhaps a socially liberal yet fiscally conservative party???

A party that actually represents voters' values and interests rather than relying on their opponent's failures and shortcomings to win elections? Sounds like someone's been partaking of controlled substances too heavily.

There is no realistic chance of a victory large enough to undo Democratic legislation until they take the Presidency.

Quote from LivninSC : "last" chance. Kind of dramatic don'tcha think??? Personally I think we need some more parties that actually have a serious chance at winning. Perhaps a socially liberal yet fiscally conservative party???

Ya mean like me own Socialist-Libertarian Party?
Current membership = 1

Split the GOP and you'll get more liberals in power.

Quote from Doctor_Wu : Split the GOP and you'll get more liberals in power.

short term (one or two election cycles), maybe...but long term, if a third party (be it Tea Party, Libertarian, etc) over time can build up enough momentum, and voters can get themselves out of the two-party mentality, we can have a multi-party congress/senate, where a socialist-lite / moderate GOP and a Conservative Party (for want of a better name) can form a coalition government that can be effective at blocking liberals...

As far as presidency, i think it will take longer before people get out of the D/R duopoly..but I think the house and senate can get there sooner than later....so while the president might be Rep, the Reps will not have enough for a majority in the house and senate unless they form an alliance with the Conservative Party, which will force the GOP more to the right than it has been the past 10 years or so, at least fiscally.

Quote from Radeck : short term (one or two election cycles), maybe...but long term, if a third party (be it Tea Party, Libertarian, etc) over time can build up enough momentum, and voters can get themselves out of the two-party mentality, we can have a multi-party congress/senate, where a socialist-lite / moderate GOP and a Conservative Party (for want of a better name) can form a coalition government that can be effective at blocking liberals... As far as presidency, i think it will take longer before people get out of the D/R duopoly..but I think the house and senate can get there sooner than later....so while the president might be Rep, the Reps will not have enough for a majority in the house and senate unless they form an alliance with the Conservative Party, which will force the GOP more to the right than it has been the past 10 years or so, at least fiscally.

I don't see any of that taking place, personally. Short term is how we think in America... and I don't see how GOP disarray will move us in a positive direction at all, short term or long term. Creeping socialism only moves in one direction, the only hope at stopping it is to slow it down, and we've done a poor job of that. GOP disarray will simply allow more to creep in while the right sorts out its differences. The current weakness, dare I say absence of any real philosophy other than 'socialism sux' (which it does), or 'national debt sux' (which it does), is a much larger problem for the right, and if the GOP falls while there is no real movement towards coherent thought... then the result will be disarray on the right. People really won't like that.

The only thing worse than suffering through the success of the opposition, is suffering through the opposition remaining in power while an inter-party crisis takes place on your own side. You'll want it over ASAP.

Conservatives are weary of change, and the idea that conservatism advances via a revolution that destroys the political party of conservatism seems somehow counter intuitive to me... and quite radical.

What we need is a new conservative synthesis to gain a foothold among some intellectuals and then a Republican candidate to come along who can articulate that synthesis effectively. Possibly this could also appear in the guise of one person, but people that gifted are extremely rare.

Quote from Doctor_Wu : Split the GOP and you'll get more liberals in power.

Quote from Doctor_Wu : I don't see any of that taking place, personally. Short term is how we think in America... and I don't see how GOP disarray will move us in a positive direction at all, short term or long term. Creeping socialism only moves in one direction, the only hope at stopping it is to slow it down, and we've done a poor job of that. GOP disarray will simply allow more to creep in while the right sorts out its differences. The current weakness, dare I say absence of any real philosophy other than 'socialism sux' (which it does), or 'national debt sux' (which it does), is a much larger problem for the right, and if the GOP falls while there is no real movement towards coherent thought... then the result will be disarray on the right. People really won't like that. The only thing worse than suffering through the success of the opposition, is suffering through the opposition remaining in power while an inter-party crisis takes place on your own side. You'll want it over ASAP. Conservatives are weary of change, and the idea that conservatism advances via a revolution that destroys the political party of conservatism seems somehow counter intuitive to me... and quite radical. What we need is a new conservative synthesis to gain a foothold among some intellectuals and then a Republican candidate to come along who can articulate that synthesis effectively. Possibly this could also appear in the guise of one person, but people that gifted are extremely rare.

That would depend on whether the Repubs are "split" or if they are completely imploded and their carcass is buried.

Quote from LivninSC : Perhaps a socially liberal yet fiscally conservative party???

Count me in.

Quote from Demosthenes9 : That would depend on whether the Repubs are "split" or if they are completely imploded and their carcass is buried.

I'm simply saying that I don't think you can get them in the ground fast enough to avoid another expansionist democratic majority. Parties that large with that much money and organizing ability don't go down w/o a fight... it will be something like a civil war and I'm just saying you don't want it.... nor should you want it.