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09-08-2010, 02:24 PM
 California testing iPads as algebra textbooks Where are they getting the money for these things and what happens if the student breaks the iPad?
Steve Gibson on password policies [grc.com]: I mean, I don't get this change it every eight weeks. ... It's not as if passwords are traveling by camel after they've been stolen, going to the bad guys, and so there's, like, some weird eight-week window, like, oh, we're going to change your password so that the stale password no longer works. ... And all this does is make IT people despised because users, who are not dumb, they think, why am I - why do I have to do this? What problem is this solving?
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09-08-2010, 02:25 PM
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What happens when a student loses the Ipad?
They give him another one and bill the taxpayers. What's the problem? This program makes a lot of sense if they eliminate the teaching position. Students with iPads will have instant access to more than 400 videos from teaching experts walking them through the concepts and assignments, rather than having to rely on the teacher's explanation in class. There is also a homework coach and animated instructions on how to complete assignments. Average teacher in salary gets $60k salary and $20k benefits. Plus, another $40k in pension after retiring. That buys a lot of Ipads. Last edited by Krazen1211; 09-08-2010 at 02:28 PM.. |
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09-08-2010, 02:32 PM
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I think it's idiotic how schools or school districts or universities who never even considered giving their students notebook computers or netbooks before are now giving them iPads. Seems like so much seize-the-moment publicity-whoring. Even now, notebook computers cost about the same or less than an iPad, and netbooks cost less.
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09-08-2010, 02:40 PM
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feigned outrage!!
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09-08-2010, 02:50 PM
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Eh, it makes no sense. Especially for math. I mean, computers solve algebra FOR you. I guess it could give a hint about what the next step should be to solve the problem. But that sorta defeats the purpose of learning algebra... Now an interactive history textbook showing videos and diagrams of historical battles, how the tectonic plates moved, etc. That makes sense. However, the iPad makes less sense than a full featured notebook, or convertible notebook with touch capabilities. No matter how cool you tell me you are with an onscreen keyboard, I doubt you are as fast as you are with a physical keyboard.
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09-08-2010, 02:53 PM
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I can't imagine attempting to read a mathematics book via an IPAD... Seems like an expensive way to walk backwards. I suppose the video explanation makes sense.. but eek. Verbal explanation is normally only done for problems that are significantly more difficult. The concepts are taught in class.. It almost seems like they're trying to replace the need for attendance by giving supplemental explanation via video...
colleges do this to.. usually for exclusive online learning. i.e. no face to face lectures whatsoever. I hope they're locking these IPAD's down so it can't even synch w/ ITUNES or even hit WI-FI access. |
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09-08-2010, 03:05 PM
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Well, they definitely need to lock down the AppStore. ...but, but, but the Farmville and the Mafia Wars... Yeah, exactly. Also they could have at least given the kids an e-Ink or Pixel Qi device so they can pretend to care the kids be in actual sunlight every now and then, vitamin D production and all.
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09-08-2010, 03:08 PM
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This might work out, but it depends on if they can motivate the kids to actually use it for its purpose. I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume that the iPad is not fully functional.
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09-08-2010, 03:12 PM
And some people dont understand why they are bankrupt. Next thing you know they will be building Billion Dollar schools. "No previous administration in the entire history of the nation ever finished the year with a trillion dollar deficit. The Obama administration has done so every single year." - Thomas Sowell
US President Barack Obama deserves the prize for the "best snake charmer" who ever lived, Cuba's Fidel Castro said .. We are now in an era where low-information and no-information voters are now in the majority.” |
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09-08-2010, 03:19 PM
 But I cringe at the thought of using a netbook except for the most basic of tasks.
I remember there was a study on Science Daily about this helping to improve test scores, but I can't seem to find it. Anyway, the point is that this system could be implemented with the iPad's WiFi connection and the appropriate software. |
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09-08-2010, 03:20 PM
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Sponsored by Houghton Mifflin. They're the devil, as far as I'm concerned. Their textbooks are total crap. They look more like comic books than text books, and they're part of the movement to force teachers to use pre-programmed lesson plans instead of their own. They want to do everything possible to jack up the annual textbook cost per student. They are the last company the government should work with.
What's wrong with a ten year-old chemistry textbook and a teacher who knows what's happened in the last ten years? |
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09-08-2010, 03:27 PM
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Textbook publishing is one of the biggest rackets going.
It needs overhauling When the facts change, I change my mind.
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#13
09-08-2010, 03:29 PM
Great question. You can drop a book from 10 feet and besides scuffs, it still has knowledge. The truth: Management at IRS can blame themselves and how they have chaotic and poor management, but God-forbid you, or I, or anybody else in America gets audited and doesn't have their ducks in order and s***-together, your ass is going to court or jail.
Shout out to Congressman Mike Kelly for stating it as it is... Link [realclearpolitics.com] |
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09-08-2010, 04:36 PM
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09-08-2010, 04:58 PM
After thinking a little more about this whole issue It made me recall how they usually categorized apple.. Which was as the most moronic business operating system company in ever. I was an apple fan back when they used far superior risc processors designed by motorola (which where then abandoned for cheaper and slower intel processors). Anyways.. apple assumed that by jamming schools w/ apple computers students would eventually enter the bussiness world and want to use apple pc's. Well.. that was a bust and a half. Apple ended up almost exclusively as a graphic designer's PC. So now they're pushing their fad item to schools? There was an article just yesterday I read about 4 companies coming out w/ equivalents to the IPAD except every single one was superior to the IPAD. The sad part is that the states are buying into this load. Everyone knows an IPAD is virtually an overgrown ITouch or Iphone (w/o cellular communication). So you're essentially giving kids a blown up Iphone so they can read a book??? I personally would rather than the book, so obviously 8th graders will probably have the options for one or the other.. or even both. ok a little more ranting.. A used PC is maybe $150 or so even w/ a monitor. Flash video of tutorials and books in PDF's could easily be loaded onto a single flash drive and distributed all for probably less than $10!!! Plus you could then easily distribute academic versions of Microsoft Office for creating documents, spreadsheets, powerpoint presentations etc.. Instead they choice to pay way to much for a blown up Iphone that is only useful for basically web browsing and using a couple Apple applications. The fact that a state would buy into the hype, that giving a kid something similar to a Iphone will help them learn, is just ludicrous. |
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