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Sanyo Internet Ready 47" LCD - DP47460

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Anyone ever hear any reviews on this 47" LCD - Picked it up at Walmart for $728 and it includes a USB WiFi adapter - no dongle required.

Thanks for the feedback.

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Not much info.

But Ive been meaning to look into Sanyo LCD HDTVs. There budget plasmas have been pretty good values. I think Sanyo is an up and comer, with Funai pushing it as a high value budget set, over Emerson, Symphonic, and the like.

Im higher on Sanyo than RCA but that is just a very limited knowledge gut feeling...and some RCA LCDs have been pretty good.
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Anyone ever hear any reviews on this 47" LCD - Picked it up at Walmart for $728 and it includes a USB WiFi adapter - no dongle required.

Thanks for the feedback.
I saw it this weekend and was tempted to buy it myself. Being the YouTube freak that I am, the fact that it was not listed on the box was the reason why I slammed on the brakes. I even went to Sanyo's website and even now as I write this, they have no info on the tv posted on their page.
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Well, Funai manufactures and distributes, Philips, Sanyo, Emerson, and other lessor known branded HDTVs.

Funai is a great company.
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Anyone ever hear any reviews on this 47" LCD - Picked it up at Walmart for $728 and it includes a USB WiFi adapter - no dongle required.

Thanks for the feedback.
I bought one Wednesday evening. Thursday evening, the screen died. Until it died, the picture was AH-MAZING. I have a Olevia 47" that I dearly love, but that one cost me $1800 back in the day and didn't have the Internet functionality. The Sanyo's picture was much better than the older set. Now I have to decide to swap for another Sanyo, or get my money back and go with another brand.
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I bought one Wednesday evening. Thursday evening, the screen died. Until it died, the picture was AH-MAZING. I have a Olevia 47" that I dearly love, but that one cost me $1800 back in the day and didn't have the Internet functionality. The Sanyo's picture was much better than the older set. Now I have to decide to swap for another Sanyo, or get my money back and go with another brand.
what did you end up doing? i'm on the fence for this tv
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what did you end up doing? i'm on the fence for this tv
We took the easy way.. we swapped it for another. Now it's running for a WEEK, 24-7 to burn it in. I have 88 days to decide whether to keep it or return it. If it borks again, I get my money back and will go with a high-end unit. I'm looking at a Toshiba or Samsung that I saw today, also amazing.

We'll see, eh?
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We took the easy way.. we swapped it for another. Now it's running for a WEEK, 24-7 to burn it in. I have 88 days to decide whether to keep it or return it. If it borks again, I get my money back and will go with a high-end unit. I'm looking at a Toshiba or Samsung that I saw today, also amazing.

We'll see, eh?
thank you. i just have to stop in and check out picture quality (last thing left). hopefully they have one on display
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I am very curious to see how these tv's evolve over the next several years. There was a huge article in the Seattle Post Intelligencer on this very subject: http://blog.seattlepi.com/microso...230543.asp

Personally I would be thrilled to have an internet ready tv. I don't know if they had them 1 1/2 yrs ago when I bought my Panasonic or if they were affordable. Supposedly you can get Vudu, Hulu, Youtube, and all kinds of tv shows streamed over the internet for free. I hope you bought your tv with the express intention of hooking it up to the internet! (I would).

***Here's a snippet from the article I listed that pertains to this thread. The title of the article actually pertains more to how to "survive" without cable tv, but is still relevant****........

"More and more TV manufacturers are making their televisions "smart" -- essentially, they have computers inside that can run apps like Netflix, Facebook, Amazon Video on Demand, Hulu Plus, YouTube, Blockbuster, Vudu, Fox Sports, Skype and many more. There are Internet-ready TVs from Samsung, Toshiba, Vizio, Panasonic, LG, Mitsubishi, Sony and others. Amazon.com has a nice chart of which models support which apps and widgits.

The first Google TV television is from Sony. As noted above, Google TV is meant to supplement cable or satellite TV, acting as a fancy program guide. But it can also be used without cable or satellite service, connecting only to the Internet for streaming video from Netflix, YouTube, Amazon Video on Demand and others. The Sony Internet TV comes with a remote that has most early adopters despise. Just look at it! All those buttons! Sony also sells a a Blu-ray Disc player with Google TV, which can be hooked up to any HDTV."
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stevenq, the set top boxes may be a better route than integrated into the TV apps. We shall see.
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I am very curious to see how these tv's evolve over the next several years. There was a huge article in the Seattle Post Intelligencer on this very subject: http://blog.seattlepi.com/microso...230543.asp

Personally I would be thrilled to have an internet ready tv. I don't know if they had them 1 1/2 yrs ago when I bought my Panasonic or if they were affordable. Supposedly you can get Vudu, Hulu, Youtube, and all kinds of tv shows streamed over the internet for free. I hope you bought your tv with the express intention of hooking it up to the internet! (I would).

***Here's a snippet from the article I listed that pertains to this thread. The title of the article actually pertains more to how to "survive" without cable tv, but is still relevant****........

"More and more TV manufacturers are making their televisions "smart" -- essentially, they have computers inside that can run apps like Netflix, Facebook, Amazon Video on Demand, Hulu Plus, YouTube, Blockbuster, Vudu, Fox Sports, Skype and many more. There are Internet-ready TVs from Samsung, Toshiba, Vizio, Panasonic, LG, Mitsubishi, Sony and others. Amazon.com has a nice chart of which models support which apps and widgits.

The first Google TV television is from Sony. As noted above, Google TV is meant to supplement cable or satellite TV, acting as a fancy program guide. But it can also be used without cable or satellite service, connecting only to the Internet for streaming video from Netflix, YouTube, Amazon Video on Demand and others. The Sony Internet TV comes with a remote that has most early adopters despise. Just look at it! All those buttons! Sony also sells a a Blu-ray Disc player with Google TV, which can be hooked up to any HDTV."
Good point,I agree with you.
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I bought this TV last night at Wal-Mart - kind of got roped into it rather than buying the TV I really wanted, the 46" Samsung (650 model).

So far I'm less than pleased with the Sanyo Net Apps:
  • Netflix: this is the only app that was important to me, that works semi-well. However in the brief time I have used it, it has a tendency to freeze during certain operations, which causes the TV to shut itself off and basically do a kind of re-boot. It takes a couple of minutes to get back to where you were. Annoying.
  • Facebook: whenever I start this up, I get an error message that reads, 'you must activate this device in order to use Facebook'. OK... how do I do this? Don't expect the slightest hint from the manuals or even from Sanyo's website. I looked all over there and on the web too... nothing. I called Sanyo this morning and was told that I had to disable the router security for it to work over the wireless network. "WHAT?" I said, "that's crazy! I'm not doing that!" The person on the other end said that what he really meant was the router security, not the wireless network security. Well, I am tech-savvy and perfectly comfortable logging into my router but I still can't see what he was talking about. There is a login required to access the router's firmware, but there is no way to turn that off. It always requires a login. This weekend I am going to try connecting via Ethernet and see if that makes any difference; I'm also sending email to Sanyo support to see if they can more clearly explain this 'router security' issue the guy on the phone was talking about.
  • Pandora: every time you turn off the TV, it forgets your account. YOU HAVE TO ENTER YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS AND PASSWORD EVERY TIME. WHAT A PAIN IN THE ASS. The excuse I was given by the phone operator was that there isn't room to store that info. WHAT? Your TV doesn't have sufficient memory to store 30 or so characters? What bullshit. Fortunately, I am too thrifty to keep a TV on that uses ~130 watts/hour, just to listen to music. I can stream Pandora from my computer or my iPhone to the stereo receiver and my home theater speakers. Still, this was a selling point to me and I am unlikely to use it now.

Sanyo provides NO online support or documentation for their net apps outside of the skimpy manual provided with the TV. It adequately guides you through setup of the TV via the wireless USB dongle and using Pandora, Vudu and Netflix. Beyond that, you are entirely on your own.

Sanyo does not have an app store like Samsung does; what's on your TV is what you get, for now and forever.

Finally, though contrast ratios are a somewhat meaningless marketing device, I thought that this model's 3,000:1 ratio was rather low when compared to other Sanyo models and especially compared to competitors, which go as high as 2,000,000:1.

I am inclined to take this thing back to Wal-Mart, get a refund, and order the Samsung I wanted in the first place. I'll post again next week once I figure out the Facebook thing and decide whether or not to return it. However, if you're thinking about buying this Sanyo DP 47460... $728 plus tax is a pretty good price for this large of a TV that is internet capable, but if the net apps are important to you then I think you're going to be as disappointed as I was.

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just after posting this message, I received the reply email from Sanyo:

Quote :
Sanyo Customer Service has received your email. We are
temporarily unable to respond to emails. Please call us at 1-800-877-5032. The
products that we are associated with are Sanyo Televisions sold
through Wal-Mart. If you need assistance with other Sanyo products please
visit http://www.sanyo.com or email the appropriate contact.
So, Sanyo has a 'special' relationship with Wal-Mart, which explains why they are made in Arkansas and customer support is in Arkansas.

That will teach me to buy at Wal-Mart. This f*cker is going back first thing next week, if not sooner.

...2nd update... the number above, is not the one you actually need to call for Sanyo Net App support. Have I mentioned yet how much I already hate this TV?

...3rd update... just called Sanyo again, talked to the SAME GUY who told me that the problem with not being able to use the Facebook app was the router security. Now he has a completely different story, he tells me that I have to log in to Facebook and get a device activation code, like I did with Netflix (which was dead simple). So he wastes 5 minutes of my time walking me through the EXACT SAME procedure I did last night to get the TV to connect to my LAN, only this inbred Arkansas hick made it far more difficult by quickly talking through all the steps all in one shot.

OH and during this process the TV mysteriously went into 'no signal' mode so we had to start all over again with this procedure which I really didn't need to do.

Then he tells me I have to get an activation code from Facebook. Well, he couldn't tell me where you do that on Facebook and I wasted 15 minutes in vain searching all over Facebook for it. You can activate mobile phones for Facebook but there is NOTHING there about HDTV internet apps.

This TV is *so* going back to Wal-Mart, TODAY. And next week I'm writing a letter to Sanyo to tell them how badly their TV sucks. DON'T BUY ONE at least not for the internet apps!

Gawd, I hope Apple decides to make HDTVs with internet apps. You KNOW they will do it right. This TV reminds me of how crappy mobile phone operating systems were, prior to iPhone. Can you go web browse with a RAZR? Yeah, but it sucks. Can you text? Yeah, but the keyboard is difficult to use. Can you play games on a RAZR? Yeah, but the screen is too small and quite often, the games are a pale shadow of the one of the same name you played on your computer...
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I bought this TV last night at Wal-Mart - kind of got roped into it rather than buying the TV I really wanted, the 46" Samsung (650 model).

So far I'm less than pleased with the Sanyo Net Apps:
  • Netflix: this is the only app that was important to me, that works semi-well. However in the brief time I have used it, it has a tendency to freeze during certain operations, which causes the TV to shut itself off and basically do a kind of re-boot. It takes a couple of minutes to get back to where you were. Annoying.
  • Facebook: whenever I start this up, I get an error message that reads, 'you must activate this device in order to use Facebook'. OK... how do I do this? Don't expect the slightest hint from the manuals or even from Sanyo's website. I looked all over there and on the web too... nothing. I called Sanyo this morning and was told that I had to disable the router security for it to work over the wireless network. "WHAT?" I said, "that's crazy! I'm not doing that!" The person on the other end said that what he really meant was the router security, not the wireless network security. Well, I am tech-savvy and perfectly comfortable logging into my router but I still can't see what he was talking about. There is a login required to access the router's firmware, but there is no way to turn that off. It always requires a login. This weekend I am going to try connecting via Ethernet and see if that makes any difference; I'm also sending email to Sanyo support to see if they can more clearly explain this 'router security' issue the guy on the phone was talking about.
  • Pandora: every time you turn off the TV, it forgets your account. YOU HAVE TO ENTER YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS AND PASSWORD EVERY TIME. WHAT A PAIN IN THE ASS. The excuse I was given by the phone operator was that there isn't room to store that info. WHAT? Your TV doesn't have sufficient memory to store 30 or so characters? What bullshit. Fortunately, I am too thrifty to keep a TV on that uses ~130 watts/hour, just to listen to music. I can stream Pandora from my computer or my iPhone to the stereo receiver and my home theater speakers. Still, this was a selling point to me and I am unlikely to use it now.

Sanyo provides NO online support or documentation for their net apps outside of the skimpy manual provided with the TV. It adequately guides you through setup of the TV via the wireless USB dongle and using Pandora, Vudu and Netflix. Beyond that, you are entirely on your own.

Sanyo does not have an app store like Samsung does; what's on your TV is what you get, for now and forever.

Finally, though contrast ratios are a somewhat meaningless marketing device, I thought that this model's 3,000:1 ratio was rather low when compared to other Sanyo models and especially compared to competitors, which go as high as 2,000,000:1.

I am inclined to take this thing back to Wal-Mart, get a refund, and order the Samsung I wanted in the first place. I'll post again next week once I figure out the Facebook thing and decide whether or not to return it. However, if you're thinking about buying this Sanyo DP 47460... $728 plus tax is a pretty good price for this large of a TV that is internet capable, but if the net apps are important to you then I think you're going to be as disappointed as I was.

==========
UPDATE
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just after posting this message, I received the reply email from Sanyo:



So, Sanyo has a 'special' relationship with Wal-Mart, which explains why they are made in Arkansas and customer support is in Arkansas.

That will teach me to buy at Wal-Mart. This f*cker is going back first thing next week, if not sooner.

...2nd update... the number above, is not the one you actually need to call for Sanyo Net App support. Have I mentioned yet how much I already hate this TV?

...3rd update... just called Sanyo again, talked to the SAME GUY who told me that the problem with not being able to use the Facebook app was the router security. Now he has a completely different story, he tells me that I have to log in to Facebook and get a device activation code, like I did with Netflix (which was dead simple). So he wastes 5 minutes of my time walking me through the EXACT SAME procedure I did last night to get the TV to connect to my LAN, only this inbred Arkansas hick made it far more difficult by quickly talking through all the steps all in one shot.

OH and during this process the TV mysteriously went into 'no signal' mode so we had to start all over again with this procedure which I really didn't need to do.

Then he tells me I have to get an activation code from Facebook. Well, he couldn't tell me where you do that on Facebook and I wasted 15 minutes in vain searching all over Facebook for it. You can activate mobile phones for Facebook but there is NOTHING there about HDTV internet apps.

This TV is *so* going back to Wal-Mart, TODAY. And next week I'm writing a letter to Sanyo to tell them how badly their TV sucks. DON'T BUY ONE at least not for the internet apps!

Gawd, I hope Apple decides to make HDTVs with internet apps. You KNOW they will do it right. This TV reminds me of how crappy mobile phone operating systems were, prior to iPhone. Can you go web browse with a RAZR? Yeah, but it sucks. Can you text? Yeah, but the keyboard is difficult to use. Can you play games on a RAZR? Yeah, but the screen is too small and quite often, the games are a pale shadow of the one of the same name you played on your computer...
After it gives you that message and you click the button on the screen, it started up VUDU. So, I created the account there and Facebook account would start (after putting in its id/pswd). Didn't buy it for the apps and its also a pain to have to retype your info each time. It appears the Facebook app is read-only. I didn't see a way to post any messages.
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Anyone ever hear any reviews on this 47" LCD - Picked it up at Walmart for $728 and it includes a USB WiFi adapter - no dongle required.

Thanks for the feedback.
i bought one on 12/12/2010... it burnt out two days later.... i had trouble with the internet apps and vudu... on the first one...

i traded it back at Walmart on 12/14/2010 and it ran (and won't even power on now) until tonight 12/27/2010... Sanyo tech support had no idea what to do except take my contact information and expect a call back within the next 72 hours???? 72 HOURS? sorry... the tv is going back to Walmart tonight... there's more to the story, but it would only drag down Sanyo's (lack of) technical support and the guy on the phone saying " i don't know what the net button is, but i might have an idea..."????? pitiful experience at best....
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I agree with all of you.. I really dont understand how a manufacturer launches a product like this with so much competition without any support!!! It almost seems as it was purposely launched and set to fail??? TV is packaged in a very illustrious box showing all of the product features. This is what dramatically made my mind to purchase the Sanyo $728 vs Vizio $698 before taxes. Physically and internally Sanyo seemed superior. A product or brand name is successful when you give that product your full support with customer service as well as tech support. These is essential for the success of a business. I called customer service 877-864-9604 provided in the tv's internet guide on the same weekend I purchased Sanyo product. Sanyo is close on weekends an automated message gave me a different # to call starting 800-877-####, so I called and hold for 45 minutes only for a rep to tell me they dont deal with internet issues only tv's, even when I said internet issue is part of the tv rep was rude and gave me same toll free # provided in the user's guide. I called Monday waited another 30 minutes and spoke to a rep who told me that I need to disable router security to call router manufacturer for support!!! Ridiculous!!! I have many devices that connect to my router and never have an issue.. I think is a problem with their hardware end up recalling their crap. Me I'll have to use my PS3 as I have been using to stream videos from Netflix. Rest assure this thing here will be returned to Wal-mart as soon as I FIND THE ONE I still have more than 2 mnths still to look into a better tv. I am sure if I was treated as I deserved and with the proper tech support I would keep it. No wonder how other businesses have grown to be the best and some to be a shame. Examples: Sprint once successful but very bad customer service over the year Sprint plumbed down. Verizon always consistent and customer satisfaction always high, and a clear #1 telecom in the US. Keep it up Sanyo.
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