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AT&T Uverse Fiber Optic DSL 6Mbps ($20) + Modem ($3/mo), with free tech install, YMMV

duenor 513 January 19, 2011 at 05:03 PM in Tech & Electronics (2)
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My first deal post, so my apologies in advance if I screwed up. Feel free to delete or flame away, I'll learn from it Smilie I searched the AT&T threads, and this one seems different enough to post, but again, let me know if I erred.

This deal really only applies to people who:
  • do not have a dsl offer better than $20/mo for 6mbps
  • do not have a cable offer better than $30/mo for 6mbps
  • do not need faster than 6mbps

* If your home does not require a technician to come over and install your fiber optic package, you can skip the whole Uverse TV deal part and just ask for the $20/mo 1 year with $3/mo modem lease promotion. It's what the CSR and I were originally talking about until we discovered that my apartment complex is technician-install only.

Inspired by the AT&T threads, I decided to do a little research. I was paying $29.99/mo for 1.5-3mpbs (Express Pro) and $30/mo for landline; current offerings in my area (East Los Angeles) are Charter 5mbps for $29/mo and that's pretty much it. My actual speedtest.net [speedtest.net] speed was 2.64mbps.

Called 1(800)288-2020, asked for retention. Laid out my situation. Here's the offer I got in return:

Monthly Recurring Charges
  • AT&T U-verse TV - AT&T U-verse TV $54 .00
  • AT&T U-verse TV - $30 off TV for 6 mos $25 .00cr
  • AT&T U-verse TV - Programming Profile $0 .00
  • U-verse TV Receiver with DVR - Receiver Fee $0 .00
  • AT&T U-verse High Speed Internet - AT&T U-verse Internet $40 .00
  • AT&T U-verse High Speed Internet - U-verse Internet 12mo Elite Intro Price Offer $20.05cr
  • AT&T U-verse Technology - Residential Gateway $0 .00
  • AT&T U-verse Technology - Double Pack Discount $0 .00
  • Network Access Device - High Speed Internet Equipment Fee $3 .00
Total Monthly Recurring Charges $51.99

So the plan as the CSR and I cooked up, is to go fiberoptic (my area's DSL is limited to 3mbps). By adding the TV, AT&T would waive the tech install (my home requires a tech install). A few days (I probably will give it a full month) later, cancel the TV and pay only a pro-rated fee for the month. TV has no ETF (no contract, month to month only). I get to keep the internet service going at $20/mo for 1yr, and the modem stays at $3/mo. So probably ~$27/mo for 6mbps after taxes and county fees.

Modem included is modem/hub with 4 physical ports and wireless b/g/n from 2wire. I'd rather lease than buy because I figure a year later there will be better modems available.

I'm hoping that by going fiberoptic I'll be able to avoid dsl overhead, which supposedly robs dsl speeds by about 20%. I'm also likely going to cancel my landline.

HD netflix, here i come!! drool

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#2
LOL. Sorry to laugh. But you fell for the "fiberoptic" scam.

tsk tsk tsk
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LOL. Sorry to laugh. But you fell for the "fiberoptic" scam.

tsk tsk tsk
Frown do explain? I've done quite a bit of reading, and I don't know of a fiberoptic scam.
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Its Ficopper. By their definition, you could call a 56k modem fiber since somewhere along the line the data does go over fiber.
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Frown do explain? I've done quite a bit of reading, and I don't know of a fiberoptic scam.
yes, please, do tell, as I would also like to fall for the fiber optic scam. damn U-verse is never going to get to my neighborhood.
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It's not really fiber optic. Its still twisted pair copper in the home. It has a lot of restrictions. Low speeds. Cannot watch multiple HD channels. If you bottleneck your bandwidth with your PC, your phone quality and TV features will drop drastically, etc.

That reminds me of a story. I had a friend with Uverse. They had 3 HD TVs. If the wife wanted the husbands attention (He was always watching sports in HD in the basement) she would turn on an HD channel in the living room, thus cutting off his HD stream downstairs and getting his attention. He hated hated HATED it. Haha
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Its Ficopper. By their definition, you could call a 56k modem fiber since somewhere along the line the data does go over fiber.
how are they pushing HDTV and internet access simultaneously over regular twisted pair DSL? either you can't use your internet while receiving TV, or they are compressing the hell out of the TV programming.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT%26T_U-verse

ADSL / VDSL

Fiber to the node - the last "mile" is still copper
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It's not really fiber optic. Its still twisted pair copper in the home. It has a lot of restrictions. Low speeds. Cannot watch multiple HD channels. If you bottleneck your bandwidth with your PC, your phone quality and TV features will drop drastically, etc.

That reminds me of a story. I had a friend with Uverse. They had 3 HD TVs. If the wife wanted the husbands attention (He was always watching sports in HD in the basement) she would turn on an HD channel in the living room, thus cutting off his HD stream downstairs and getting his attention. He hated hated HATED it. Haha
WTF? I assume they have to disclose this before you sign up?
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how are they pushing HDTV and internet access simultaneously over regular twisted pair DSL? either you can't use your internet while receiving TV, or they are compressing the hell out of the TV programming.
This.

TV is more of an IPTV based. So its pushed along with your internet. Which gets slower while watching HD and multiple streams of TV and your phone is also VOIP based. Which is also affected.

The only thing that is fiber is up to the node. The rest is twisted pair copper.

Same with cable systems, execpt cable systems usually use an HFC (hybrid fiber coaxial) system. Meaning also fiber to the node and the rest is coaxial. However, coaxial cable can handle hundreds if not thousands more traffic than twisted pair copper. Thus allowing much faster speeds (up to 160Mbps in some DOCSIS 3.0 enabled areas), tv, both digital and IPTV based and a completely seperate network for the phone system without much hassle through the same piece of coaxial cable you have in your home.
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This.

TV is more of an IPTV based. So its pushed along with your internet. Which gets slower while watching HD and multiple streams of TV and your phone is also VOIP based. Which is also affected.

The only thing that is fiber is up to the node. Same with cable systems. They usually use an HFC (hybrid fiber coaxial) system. Meaning also fiber to the node, however, coaxial cable can handle hundreds if not thousands more traffic than twisted pair copper. Thus allowing much faster speeds (up to 160Mbps in some areas), tv, both digital and IPTV based and a completely seperate network for the phone system without much hassle.
dang, I was hoping someday to have a choice aside from my current broadband provider, which is the local cable company. I could get DSL, but it would be a step down in bandwidth and speed, so I keep waiting. I assumed U-verse = fiber to the premises.
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#12
Cable is the way to go. Unless these other companies start bringing fiber to the premise and INSIDE the premise, they are not going to last much longer.

Fiber as it is, is way to expensive to justify the costs. FioS had a good start, but they aren't gaining very fast as they cannot break a profit from its already expensive services.
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It's not really fiber optic. Its still twisted pair copper in the home. It has a lot of restrictions. Low speeds. Cannot watch multiple HD channels. If you bottleneck your bandwidth with your PC, your phone quality and TV features will drop drastically, etc.

That reminds me of a story. I had a friend with Uverse. They had 3 HD TVs. If the wife wanted the husbands attention (He was always watching sports in HD in the basement) she would turn on an HD channel in the living room, thus cutting off his HD stream downstairs and getting his attention. He hated hated HATED it. Haha

Welcome to 2006.

My U-Verse connection is 32Mbit down and 5mbit up. Plenty of bandwidth for multiple HD feeds (~6Mbit each) and a fast internet connection (18Mbit - 24Mbit).
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Welcome to 2006.

My U-Verse connection is 32Mbit down and 5mbit up. Plenty of bandwidth for multiple HD feeds (~6Mbit each) and a fast internet connection (18Mbit - 24Mbit).
okay this has to be fiber, right? or coax. I mean there is no way this is over a single twisted-pair.
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Welcome to 2006.

My U-Verse connection is 32Mbit down and 5mbit up. Plenty of bandwidth for multiple HD feeds (~6Mbit each) and a fast internet connection (18Mbit - 24Mbit).
I would like to see your speedtest.net results and how much do you pay? Certainly not $20 a month. Wink Big difference there.

Here are mine as of a few minutes ago, this is with torrents still running off of server and I only live in a DOCSIS 2.0 area, not yet DOCSIS 3.0 which allows multiple carrier binding and starting out at 160Mbps but coming soon.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1119149817.png
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