**The OFFICIAL GL Firearms thread**

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Hi everyone,
I got my permit a few weeks ago. The day I got it I went to the lgs and picked up a Ruger sr-22 to learn to shoot. It is fun to shoot and after a while I was able to consistently hit where I was aiming after changing my grip, and stance slightly. In the meantime I was searching for a CZ 75BD but no one seems to have them in stock at a resonable price. Instead I went with the updated version of the gun that got me hooked on shooting, a Beretta 92A1.
I got a pretty good price on it and coudln't resist. The grip I swapped out with a Hogue rubber grip. It is very comfortable and inexpensive. Last night I picked it up and can't until the weekend to test it out. I think I've stumbled across a new vice (first watches now this). My next couple purchases are already planned out but I will wait a while to get better with my technique and save a few bucks.

One question I have is how do you guys who are in a condo / apartment store your firearms? I am looking for a medium size safed to hold everything that is fire resistant to put in my closet. I will be fastening it to the floor and wall.

Quote from jamur87 : Hi everyone, I got my permit a few weeks ago. The day I got it I went to the lgs and picked up a Ruger sr-22 to learn to shoot. It is fun to shoot and after a while I was able to consistently hit where I was aiming after changing my grip, and stance slightly. In the meantime I was searching for a CZ 75BD but no one seems to have them in stock at a resonable price. Instead I went with the updated version of the gun that got me hooked on shooting, a Beretta 92A1. I got a pretty good price on it and coudln't resist. The grip I swapped out with a Hogue rubber grip. It is very comfortable and inexpensive. Last night I picked it up and can't until the weekend to test it out. I think I've stumbled across a new vice (first watches now this). My next couple purchases are already planned out but I will wait a while to get better with my technique and save a few bucks. One question I have is how do you guys who are in a condo / apartment store your firearms? I am looking for a medium size safed to hold everything that is fire resistant to put in my closet. I will be fastening it to the floor and wall.

I just keep a gunvault Mini ready to go, one for each gun that I own. Once I move to a more stable house with no thought of moving for at least three years I will get a more substantial safe but the gun vaults have served me well enough. I even bought one of the micro vaults to keep in my car for when I am carrying and can't legally carry into a location.

Congratulations on the gun purchase. I think you should have stuck with a CZ but if you read through here you will find that I am biased. I love the hogue grips though, they fit perfectly and feel so good when firing.

Make sure you post a range report with how it fires.

Quote from jamur87 : Hi everyone, I got my permit a few weeks ago. The day I got it I went to the lgs and picked up a Ruger sr-22 to learn to shoot. It is fun to shoot and after a while I was able to consistently hit where I was aiming after changing my grip, and stance slightly. In the meantime I was searching for a CZ 75BD but no one seems to have them in stock at a resonable price. Instead I went with the updated version of the gun that got me hooked on shooting, a Beretta 92A1. I got a pretty good price on it and coudln't resist. The grip I swapped out with a Hogue rubber grip. It is very comfortable and inexpensive. Last night I picked it up and can't until the weekend to test it out. I think I've stumbled across a new vice (first watches now this). My next couple purchases are already planned out but I will wait a while to get better with my technique and save a few bucks. One question I have is how do you guys who are in a condo / apartment store your firearms? I am looking for a medium size safed to hold everything that is fire resistant to put in my closet. I will be fastening it to the floor and wall.

Awesome, congrats on the purchases. The SR-22 looks like a lot of fun, and you can't go wrong with a Beretta. What are your next purchases that you have in mind? I like to live vicariously through those whose wives let them buy guns whenever they want

I don't keep a safe yet, so I can't respond to that.

Quote from alexpkeaton529 : I just keep a gunvault Mini ready to go, one for each gun that I own. Once I move to a more stable house with no thought of moving for at least three years I will get a more substantial safe but the gun vaults have served me well enough. I even bought one of the micro vaults to keep in my car for when I am carrying and can't legally carry into a location.

How are those gun vaults to get into? Is it quick or does it take a while? Have you ever tried to do it while groggy after just waking up? I am looking for a quick-access safe, but I don't want it to be too complicated.

Quote from Jabbit : Awesome, congrats on the purchases. The SR-22 looks like a lot of fun, and you can't go wrong with a Beretta. What are your next purchases that you have in mind? I like to live vicariously through those whose wives let them buy guns whenever they want I don't keep a safe yet, so I can't respond to that. How are those gun vaults to get into? Is it quick or does it take a while? Have you ever tried to do it while groggy after just waking up? I am looking for a quick-access safe, but I don't want it to be too complicated.

With most of them it is as quick as you can hit the four button sequence. Usually at night I just leave it open and then close it when I am heading out for the day but the time to open one is negligible. The buttons line up directly with your hand and it is very responsive with a spring loaded door.

Most come packaged with mounting hardware and the safe has premachined holes ready to pop out for bolting to something.

Quote from alexpkeaton529 : With most of them it is as quick as you can hit the four button sequence. Usually at night I just leave it open and then close it when I am heading out for the day but the time to open one is negligible. The buttons line up directly with your hand and it is very responsive with a spring loaded door. Most come packaged with mounting hardware and the safe has premachined holes ready to pop out for bolting to something.

Does it use batteries or an AC adapter? Or are the buttons mechanical? I know I could read a spec sheet, but I like getting the first-hand review. Thank you!

Quote from alexpkeaton529 : I just keep a gunvault Mini ready to go, one for each gun that I own. Once I move to a more stable house with no thought of moving for at least three years I will get a more substantial safe but the gun vaults have served me well enough. I even bought one of the micro vaults to keep in my car for when I am carrying and can't legally carry into a location. Congratulations on the gun purchase. I think you should have stuck with a CZ but if you read through here you will find that I am biased. I love the hogue grips though, they fit perfectly and feel so good when firing. Make sure you post a range report with how it fires.

Quote from Jabbit : Awesome, congrats on the purchases. The SR-22 looks like a lot of fun, and you can't go wrong with a Beretta. What are your next purchases that you have in mind? I like to live vicariously through those whose wives let them buy guns whenever they want I don't keep a safe yet, so I can't respond to that. How are those gun vaults to get into? Is it quick or does it take a while? Have you ever tried to do it while groggy after just waking up? I am looking for a quick-access safe, but I don't want it to be too complicated.

Jabbit,
The SR-22 is fun and it will fire any type of .22lr without jamming. although its a small pistol it comes with a larger grip for those of use with larger hands. There is very little recoil (its a .22 of course) and its pretty accurate. It also has a bunch of safety features needed for a fisrt time owner like myself. As far as next purchases I am looking into tracking down a CZ75BD or an CZ75 SP01. I wanted a CZ with a decocker instead of the manual safety but they are tough to find as of late. After that I was thinking a SIG P226 or P229 or a HK USP. Both are expensive so I don't plan on making those purchases until my skill matches my want lol. After that I was thinking an AR-15 variant. When I picked up the 92A1 I held a glock. I read that people either loved or hated the ergonomics of it. It fit my hand perfectly so that is a possibilityas well.

Speaking of wives, when I unboxed the 92A1 I thought it was a work of art. BTW I'm an engineer by trade. Anyways I handed to my wife to hold. She held it for 3 seconds handed back and said uh huh Blashpehy. Lol she didn't even appreciate the blue of the reciever or even the matte black of the exposed barrel. I didn't even get into SA and DA with her before her eyes glazed over. Oh well at least she hasn't put up much of a fight as long as I keep them stored safely.

What do you guys do about ammo storage. I have an ammo can but I just read that if there is a Fire an the fire fighter hear the ammo cooking off they will not enter. Alex, do you not worry about the gunvault being taken if there was a break in? I'm torn because i don't plan on being in the condo forever.

Quote from Jabbit : Does it use batteries or an AC adapter? Or are the buttons mechanical? I know I could read a spec sheet, but I like getting the first-hand review. Thank you!

The buttons are electric (off of 6 AAA's I believe) with an additional keyed lock if the batteries run out. There is a low battery notification and I believe they recommend changing them out yearly.

Quote from jamur87 : What do you guys do about ammo storage. I have an ammo can but I just read that if there is a Fire an the fire fighter hear the ammo cooking off they will not enter. Alex, do you not worry about the gunvault being taken if there was a break in? I'm torn because i don't plan on being in the condo forever.

Even though I live in Orlando I am not too concerned with a break in and if one were to occur, there are varying things that would happen. The way I see it is a lock only serves to keep the good guys good. If you keep something in a safe, and somebody else wants that thing, they will find a way to get into that safe. My gunvault is currently bolted to the shelving in my closet hidden under hanging clothes and other stuff on top of it. In a smash and grab event I dont think they would even notice it. In a more in depth burglary with no power tools, they would spend some time working the shelving out, and then they would be stuck with a metal box attached to a 9 foot shelf that they get to navigate out of my apartment and run away with.

In terms of ammo storage, there are plenty a smaller fireproof safes that you could go for. Maybe something from Honeywell or a fireproof filing cabinet to be less conspicuous.

Quote from jamur87 : Speaking of wives, when I unboxed the 92A1 I thought it was a work of art. BTW I'm an engineer by trade. Anyways I handed to my wife to hold. She held it for 3 seconds handed back and said uh huh Blashpehy. Lol she didn't even appreciate the blue of the reciever or even the matte black of the exposed barrel. I didn't even get into SA and DA with her before her eyes glazed over. Oh well at least she hasn't put up much of a fight as long as I keep them stored safely.

From the pictures I have seen, it looks like the SR-22 is similar in proportions to the Walther P22. Glad you like it. My wife thinks my hobby is pretty interesting - I even went as far as to include her in it. I bought her a pink Sig Mosquito .22 last year and she loves it. I really enjoy shooting it too, when she lets me borrow it.

My first purchase was a S&W M&P handgun. If you like the feel of a Glock, I suggest taking a look at the M&P as well. I initially wanted an H&K, but I changed my mind.

Quote from alexpkeaton529 : The buttons are electric (off of 6 AAA's I believe) with an additional keyed lock if the batteries run out. There is a low battery notification and I believe they recommend changing them out yearly.

Cool. I like your idea of opening it at night and closing it in the AM. I might have to pick one of those up.

The SR-22 is pretty close in size to the Walther. My wife shot when we went to the Gun Store in Las Vegas and liked it. We haven't gone to the range since I've gotten my permit but hopefully she'll find it as therapeudic as I do and I can give her the SR-22 or what ever she chooses. The gun Vault sounds interesting and I think I will take a closer look at it. I like the idea of bolting it down in the closet.

Off topic question where can i find a screwdriver that has a coated tip? I scratched the one of the grip screws installing the Hogue grip and have since ordered new ones.

Quote from Jabbit : From the pictures I have seen, it looks like the SR-22 is similar in proportions to the Walther P22. Glad you like it. My wife thinks my hobby is pretty interesting - I even went as far as to include her in it. I bought her a pink Sig Mosquito .22 last year and she loves it. I really enjoy shooting it too, when she lets me borrow it. My first purchase was a S&W M&P handgun. If you like the feel of a Glock, I suggest taking a look at the M&P as well. I initially wanted an H&K, but I changed my mind. Cool. I like your idea of opening it at night and closing it in the AM. I might have to pick one of those up.

Alex,
Are you using the minivault or multivault? I 'm curious what to do if i get the cz soon. There will need to be enough room to store the 92A1, Sr-22 and the CZ.

Quote from jamur87 : The SR-22 is pretty close in size to the Walther. My wife shot when we went to the Gun Store in Las Vegas and liked it. We haven't gone to the range since I've gotten my permit but hopefully she'll find it as therapeudic as I do and I can give her the SR-22 or what ever she chooses. The gun Vault sounds interesting and I think I will take a closer look at it. I like the idea of bolting it down in the closet. Off topic question where can i find a screwdriver that has a coated tip? I scratched the one of the grip screws installing the Hogue grip and have since ordered new ones.

you would have to make one.. make sure you use the right size screwdriver and just be careful while you torque it down and you should be ok without a coated one

Quote from jamur87 : Alex, Are you using the minivault or multivault? I 'm curious what to do if i get the cz soon. There will need to be enough room to store the 92A1, Sr-22 and the CZ.

I have a minivault for the CZ and a nanovault for the m&p shield/car storage when unable to carry.

it is possible to fit two full size handguns in the minivault but I would recommend against it as it becomes difficult to retrieve in a hurry at that point.

Gunvault also has a larger option called the Multivault. My recommendation would be to go to your local gun store or outdoor supply. Call ahead and find one that stocks gun vaults. They will usually have them on display so you can get a feel for how they work and their storage capacity/size.

I am only using these a temporary option and once I move into a house (no time soon) I would like to get a larger safe. Right now I am researching AR-15s and one of those definitely wouldnt fit in a gunvault. I guess it is time to build a secret storage cache into a bookshelf.

Quote from jamur87 : One question I have is how do you guys who are in a condo / apartment store your firearms? I am looking for a medium size safed to hold everything that is fire resistant to put in my closet. I will be fastening it to the floor and wall.

Do you have kids?

If yes: Get a stack-on safe for your rifle, and a mini hand activated safe for your Beretta.

If no: Store your Beretta in your nightstand with one in the chamber, and your Sr-22 in a stackon. Or just behind the closet door.