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The arguments I've heard about the safety of nuke plants is that they are so safe it's OK to build them anywhere. I would think that what has just happened in Japan is proof they are wrong. Considering the consequences, why temp fate and build them on faults, near coastlines, Near liquid petroleum storage farms. All things that have taken place in the US. I worry about the judgment of all involved in letting that happen. If they failed us there what else has been marked acceptable when clearly its not. I also wonder about the lead up to every accident when all you hear is don't worry we have redundant safety backups and all is well right up to the BOOM
My question of safety was more about how and where they have been allowed to be built then how safe they are in a perfect world. When insurance companies won't insure them you have to wonder the risk vs value of them. I didn't even touch on the storage of all the radioactive waste that has to safely be stored some where( that's for another post) Last edited by dollarbill; 03-12-2011 at 01:37 PM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost |
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Or..... in the middle of nowhere. Here the issue would be distribution (hundreds of miles of very expensive copper, etc). |
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By the logic you use, we pretty much shouldn't build anything near any faultline. If the injury/exposure of some workers during a once in a hundred year earthquake is enough to dismiss nuclear power in seismic areas, what does that say about dams, oil refineries, chemical plants, natural gas depots/pipelines, harbors handling dangerous materials, high rise buildings, and anything else that poses any risk to the public? Last edited by pvt1863; 03-12-2011 at 02:24 PM.. Reason: added "external" to conditions to differentiate between this and the internally-imposed conditions at Chernobyl |
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To the "Chicken Littles" of the podium, even the WHO thinks the nuclear reactor threat is nothing to worry about:
Health risk from Japan reactor seems quite low: WHO [cnbc.com] GENEVA - The World Health Organization (WHO) said Saturday that the public health risk from Japan's radiation leak appeared to be "quite low" but the WHO network of medical experts was ready to assist if requested. "At this moment it appears to be the case that the public health risk is probably quite low. We understand radiation that has escaped from the plant is very small in amount," World Health Organization spokesman Gregory Hartl told Reuters. Radiation leaked from an earthquake-crippled nuclear plant in Japan Saturday after a blast blew off the roof, and authorities were preparing to distribute iodine to local people to protect them from exposure ![]()
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Lucky for us these usually occur in the middle of desert plains or Siberia. ![]() RED got it right...Maiden too if your gonna die [youtube.com]...
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The New York Academy of Sciences recent report puts the death toll from Chernobyl at closer to 1million WHO only say 4000 not to mention 24 years later it's still off limits and highly contaminated |
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A person who won't read has no advantage over one who can't read. - Mark Twain
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and by the way the Hindenburg blew because it was filled with hydrogen. Helium was in short supply Last edited by dollarbill; 03-13-2011 at 05:34 AM.. |
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"...give reactor operators at Palo Verde Nuclear Generating Station special training in honesty because of a minor cover-up attempted at the plant in fall 2006." At least this plant is located far from the city and its three reactors don't share a common safety system but instead each has its own. |
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the amount of ignorance on this forum related to this subject is astounding. I dont think i see one post in here actually addressing the "durr this is gonna become the next chernobyl"
i urge you to just watch this whole lecture, but if you want to get to the gist of how the chernobyl was such a screw up, and how nuclear reactors actually work today you can watch from this point http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B...4#t=54m52s whole lecture: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BHdsjo-NR4 since im sure some people are too lazy to even watch 20 minutes, basically a WORST case scenario is the reactor suffers a melt down, the rods inside literally melt, and they melt through the solid block known as the containment facility into the ground. literally impossible for the nuclear reactor to "explode" and spread radiated smoke everywhere. |
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As for rare events, we had a 100-year flood that washed out or seriously damaged all but one bridge over the river. Politicians wanted to save money on reconstruction by not building replacement bridges that could stand 100-year floods, but next year, there was another 100-year flood. IOW you have to plan and build for extremely rare events when the consequences of doing otherwise can be so severe. In Japan, the reactor containment building didn't explode because there was no containment building but instead the reactor vessel was surrounded by a containment vessel, probably made of metal, which remained intact. There's no danger of nuclear explosion from a reactor, but free hydrogen rapidly combining with oxygen is another matter, and during the Three Mile Island emergency, that was the biggest fear, and it was estimated such an explosion could have destroyed the containment building. |
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