Official -Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim- Thread

I don't get how anyone could enjoy this on a console at all. The mods will most likely be out within a few months if the toolkit is good enough. Especially if there are dumb UI choices, which there almost always are. Those will be modded probably immediately.

I guess most people aren't concerned with that?

Quote from trima : I don't get how anyone could enjoy this on a console at all. The mods will most likely be out within a few months if the toolkit is good enough. Especially if there are dumb UI choices, which there almost always are. Those will be modded probably immediately. I guess most people aren't concerned with that?

You just anwered your own question. Not to mention Bethesda is notorious for having more bugs on their PC version then the consoles at launch. Fallout: New Vegas was a great example. Once all the bugs are out and the mods start rushing in i'll pick it up for PC.

Also, if anyone remembers when Oblivion first came out there were no specs that could effectively run it at max settings. It wasn't until a year or two later which that occured. I have a sneaky suspicion that will be the case with Skyrim as well.

Quote from WaltonsMountain : You just anwered your own question. Not to mention Bethesda is notorious for having more bugs on their PC version then the consoles at launch. Fallout: New Vegas was a great example. Once all the bugs are out and the mods start rushing in i'll pick it up for PC. Also, if anyone remembers when Oblivion first came out there were no specs that could effectively run it at max settings. It wasn't until a year or two later which that occured. I have a sneaky suspicion that will be the case with Skyrim as well.

Most of the usability mods will be out immediately. Any gaming PC will be able to run the resolution at the same quality or better than any of the current gen consoles. I do remember when Oblivion came out, and I remember all the graphics debates. http://www.anandtech.com/show/1996/4.

Your point about support is well founded though. Most of today's devs could care less about PC releases, and often they neglect it. See: http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1037150.

In other words any Bethesda game is most likely going to be better out of the box on 360, but in my opinion the mods on the PC version should warrant just waiting a month after release and buying it on PC.

Also New Vegas was developed by Obsidian, not Bethesda.

Quote from WaltonsMountain : You just anwered your own question. Not to mention Bethesda is notorious for having more bugs on their PC version then the consoles at launch. Fallout: New Vegas was a great example. Once all the bugs are out and the mods start rushing in i'll pick it up for PC. Also, if anyone remembers when Oblivion first came out there were no specs that could effectively run it at max settings. It wasn't until a year or two later which that occured. I have a sneaky suspicion that will be the case with Skyrim as well.

Fallout: New Vegas was developed by Obsidian. Even then, both console and PC were littered with bugs from day 1. The difference is that the PC version was immediately patched whereas the console version patches were delayed due to them having to submit to MS/Sony for certification.

I'd say if you're going to pick it up for the PC down the line, you might as well day 1 it on PC b/c for Bethesda based engine games, bugs will be unavoidable no matter what platform you're on

Oh yea, I forgot it was Obsidian. Was it just financially backed by Bethesda? I know they were somehow involved...

Maybe you guys are right about the mods being available real soon. I just remember that there were so many conflicts w/ all of them in relation to each other that it sometimes made it pointless. Then things like OBMM, OBSE, Unofficial Oblivion Patch, etc. started coming out that mods actually became useful when using more than one.

I also realize that the resolution would be way better on PC version then console. What i'm saying is that its going to be VERY taxing on my computer and I dont feel like upgrading right now. I know it will blow my e5200 right out of the water... I dont know...maybe i will get it for PC.

I have both 360 and PS3. Which do you think it will be better on? I bet DLC becomes available sooner on 360 than PS3, as was the case with Oblivion. But I had PS3 version of New Vegas and I didn't have any of the issues that were reported on the other selections (360 and PC) Worked great right from day 1....

Quote from trima : I don't get how anyone could enjoy this on a console at all.

Lots of people aren't PC gamers.

Quote from WaltonsMountain : But I had PS3 version of New Vegas and I didn't have any of the issues that were reported on the other selections (360 and PC) Worked great right from day 1....

Then you got lucky...all 3 versions had similar bugs/same frequency of bugs. It's Obsidian's MO..They couldn't ship a bug free game even if their life depended on it.

Quote from trima : I don't get how anyone could enjoy this on a console at all. The mods will most likely be out within a few months if the toolkit is good enough. Especially if there are dumb UI choices, which there almost always are. Those will be modded probably immediately. I guess most people aren't concerned with that?

I have a 32" tv with surround sound vs a 23" computer monitor and headphones. I am more comfortable playing for longer times on the console and I cannot hook up my pc to my tv since the distance is too far. I find there is a different type of immersion, but one I prefer with the console so far.

Quote from 77Pat : I have a 32" tv with surround sound vs a 23" computer monitor and headphones. I am more comfortable playing for longer times on the console and I cannot hook up my pc to my tv since the distance is too far. I find there is a different type of immersion, but one I prefer with the console so far.

To each his own I guess. I have two 24" monitors, surround sound, surround headphones on my computer. Also your distance from said monitor affects your viewport more so than actual screen size, since your fleshbag eyeballs can only see a limited arc in front of you.

Immersion is unfortunately very subjective.

im also in for ps3....my PC is mainly used for work, not for gaming anymore....and i have a home office in my finished basement - much more comfortable with the full surround sound and 42" tv in the living room than it is in the office sitting at a desk...even with the z5500 surround sound in the office....just is more fun to load it up in the living room :-)

I'm getting it on Xbox. Using a computer reminds me too much of being at work. I don't need that while I'm gaming.

I hope they improve the combat system. The combat in Oblivion was more annoying than anything. I turned down the difficulty to make sure I could kill everything in one hit.

An HDTV these days is essentially a huge monitor with a tuner built in. All of the latest videocards have an HDMI out built in and most games have native 360 controller support (and yes it's as simple as plug and play). PC gaming can be done either on comfy couch or comfy desk easily.

Quote from thermoelectron : An HDTV these days is essentially a huge monitor with a tuner built in. All of the latest videocards have an HDMI out built in and most games have native 360 controller support (and yes it's as simple as plug and play). PC gaming can be done either on comfy couch or comfy desk easily.

Yea problem with that is though, alot of console gamers dont like wired controllers. Usually the couch, sofa, chair is far enough from the tv or pc that anything else just complicates things.

This isn't an issue for me as I like using mouse and keyboard for pc gaming but I know this is an issue for others. Not everyone likes their computer in the living room next to the tv.

Quote from thermoelectron : Then you got lucky...all 3 versions had similar bugs/same frequency of bugs. It's Obsidian's MO..They couldn't ship a bug free game even if their life depended on it.

It's part of their charm. Who doesn't love paying retail for continued beta-testing?

I got hung up on a game breaking Daggerfall bug back in the day (killed the wrong guy I think) and never was able/bothered to complete it.