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Piggybacking off last year's Samsung thread, I'd like to generate a wiki for the 3 major plasma brands for 2011. Most of the manufacturers place restrictions on pricing and don't allow online retailers to show prices until final checkout. This thread will allow us to weed through those restrictions and find the best current prices.

I am much more informed with pricing on the higher end models for all 3 manufacturers, but admittedly, I could use some help on the lower end.

Any help keeping the wiki current is appreciated. I will do my best with what I have already documented on some of these models, but again, I do not have info on every model.
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Last Edited by ShinyBuddha December 21, 2011 at 07:02 PM
This post can be edited by most users to provide up-to-date information about developments of this thread based on user responses, and user findings. Feel free to add, change or remove information shown here as it becomes available. This includes new coupons, rebates, ideas, thread summary, and similar items.

Note: I'm only including reputable authorized resellers. East Coast TVs, for example, will not be represented on this list due to fake reviews, bad business practices, etc.

Order will be done my manufacturer and size/features within manufacturer.

Important Updates:

Per Samsung's press release [cnet.com] dated on 4/6, two pairs of its base 2011 3D glasses, model SSG-3100GB, will be included with every Samsung 3D television sold by an authorized Samsung retailer. Save your receipt if you did not receive 2 pairs of glasses (only valid for purchases after 4/24/2011).

5/19: Samsung has created a fulfillment site [checkmyrebate.com] to register for two free pairs of 3D active glasses if you did not receive them with your 3D HDTV at the time of purchase from an authorized Samsung retailer. Delivery time is currently showing between 4-6 weeks.

5/23: Now through June 30th, Amazon is offering 24 month no interest financing [amazon.com] on every LG and Panasonic plasma shipped and sold directly from Amazon using the Amazon.com store card [amazon.com]. - thanks shaxs


Any price below in bold indicates a current all-time price low for that model.

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SAMSUNG
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Samsung models: first two numbers in model # represent size of unit (ex: PN59D6500 = 59" inch plasma)
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Samsung PN43D450 (720p) (MSRP - $599.99):

$399 - 21 Dec. - B&H Photo w/ Free Shipping [bhphotovideo.com] - will be $414 after the 24th of Dec.
$479 - 10 June - HH Gregg
$487 - 14 June - Video & Audio Center fulfilled by Amazon.com
$498 - 17 June - Amazon.com shipped
$508 - 31 May - US Appliance shipped

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Samsung PN43D490 (720p, 3D) (MSRP - $799.99):

$527 - 21 Dec. - ABT with Free shipping [abt.com]
$570 - 27 June - Video & Audio Center fulfilled by Amazon.com
$584 - 18 June - Paul's TV fulfilled by Amazon.com - price includes 2 free pairs of 3D active glasses
$599 - 17 June - Amazon.com shipped - price includes 2 pairs of 3D active glasses

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Samsung PN51D450 (720p) (MSRP - $799.99)

$629 - 21 Dec - Amazon w/ free shipping [amazon.com]
$550 - Aug 19 - HHGreg
$696 - 27 June - Video & Audio Center fulfilled by Amazon.com
$696 - 10 June - US Appliance shipped
$697 - 28 June - Amazon.com shipped
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Samsung PN51D490 (720p, 3D) (MSRP - $999.99)

$599 - 21 Dec - Amazon w/ free shipping [amazon.com]
$696 - 8 August - MODIA fulfilled by Amazon.com
$729 - 31 May - Buydig.com - price includes 2 pairs of active 3D glasses
$750 - 21 June - Paul's TV fulfilled by Amazon.com
$797 - 6 June - Amazon.com - price includes 2 pairs of active 3D glasses

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Samsung PN51D550 (1080p, 3D) (MSRP - $1,299.99)

$888 - 21 Dec - Amazon [amazon.com]
$899 - 12 June - US Appliance shipped
$999 - 22 May - Paul's TV - price includes Samsung BDC5500 Blu-ray player

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Samsung PN51D6500 (1080p, 3D, Internet Apps) (MSRP - $1,599.99)

$933 - 21 Dec - Amazon [amazon.com]
$1148 - 28 June - Video & Audio Center fulfilled by Amazon.com
$1155 - 28 June - Paul's TV fulfilled by Amazon.com
$1189 - 27 June - Buydig.com shipped - price includes BD-D5500 3D Blu-ray player and Megamind 3D starter kit
$1199 - 20 June - US Appliance shipped - price includes BD-D5500 3D Blu-ray player and Megamind 3D starter kit
$1399 - 27 June - Amazon.com shipped - price includes BD-D5500 3D Blu-ray player and Megamind 3D starter kit

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Samsung PN51D7000 (D6500 + Real Black Filter) (MSRP - $1,899.99)

Price Low - 6/21 - $1,273

$1273 - 21 June - Video & Audio Center fulfilled by Amazon.com
$1285 - 20 June - Paul's TV fulfilled by Amazon.com
$1399 - 27 June - Buydig.com - price includes Megamind 3D starter kit and BD-D5500 3D Blu-ray player
$1900 - 27 June - Amazon.com shipped - price includes Megamind 3D starter kit and BD-D5500 3D Blu-ray player

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Samsung PN51D8000 (D7000 + Local Contrast Enhancer, Qwerty Remote) (MSRP $2,299.99)

Price Low - 6/18 - $1,500 (Video & Audio Center fulfilled by Amazon.com)

$1584 - 21 June - Electronics Expo fulfilled by Amazon.com
$1590 - 20 June - Paul's TV fulfilled by Amazon.com
$1619 - 20 June - Buydig.com - price includes BD-D5500 3D Blu-ray player and Megamind 3D starter kit
$1649 - 20 June - US Appliance shipped - price includes BD-D5500 3D Blu-ray player and Megamind 3D starter kit
$1625 - 10 June - Electronics Expo fulfilled by Amazon.com

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Samsung PN59D550 (MSRP - $1899.99)

Price Low - 8/14 - $1,349.99

$1,349.99 - 14 Aug - Paul's TV fulfilled by Amazon.com
$1429 - 27 June - US Appliance shipped - price includes 2 free pairs of 3D active glasses

$1449 - 20 June - Paul's TV fulfilled by Amazon.com
$1499 - 8 June - Vanns.com
$1670 - 27 June - Amazon.com shipped - price includes 2 pairs of 3D active glasses

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Samsung PN59D6500 (MSRP - $2199.99)

Price Low - 6/27 - $1,530 (Video & Audio Center fulfilled by Amazon.com)

$1538 - 28 June - Video & Audio Center fulfilled by Amazon.com
$1533 - 26 June - Paul's TV fulfilled by Amazon.com
$1679 - 15 June - US Appliance shipped - price includes BD-D5500 3D Blu-ray player and Megamind 3D starter kit
$1867 - 28 June - Amazon.com shipped - price includes BD-D5500 3D Blu-ray player and Megamind 3D starter kit

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Samsung PN59D7000 (MSRP - $2599.99)

Price Low - 07/06 - current price - $1721 - Paul's TV fulfilled by Amazon.com

$1721 - 05 July - fulfilled by Amazon.com
$1748 - 02 July - World Wide Stereo and Paul's TV fulfilled by Amazon.com
$1850 - 16 July - Amazon - price includes BD-D5500 3D Blu-ray player and Megamind 3D starter kit
$1861 - 27 June - World Wide Stereo fulfilled by Buy.com
$1899 - 27 June - World Wide Stereo fulfilled by Amazon.com
$1999 - 12 June - Paul's TV - price includes BD-D5500 3D Blu-ray player and Megamind 3D starter kit
$2079 - 27 June - Buydig.com shipped - price includes BD-D5500 3D Blu-ray player and Megamind 3D starter kit
$2199 - 28 June - Amazon.com shipped - price includes BD-D5500 3D Blu-ray player and Megamind 3D starter kit

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Samsung PN59D8000 (MSRP - $2999.99)

Price Low - 6/18 - $2,110 (Paul's TV fulfilled by Amazon.com)

$2130 - 27 June - Paul's TV fulfilled by Buy.com
$2397 - 15 June - US Appliance shipped - price includes Megamind 3D starter kit and BD-D5500 3D Blu-ray player

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Samsung PN64D550 (MSRP - $2699.99)

Price Low - 4/7 - $1,960

$1981 - 22 June - World Wide Stereo fulfilled by Amazon.com
$1999 - 27 June - US Appliance shipped - price includes 2 pairs of 3D active glasses
$2100 - 28 June - Amazon.com shipped - price includes 2 pairs of 3D active glasses

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Samsung PN64D7000 (MSRP - $3399.99)

Price Low - 11/28 - $2,150 (Amazon.com)

$2150 - 28 November - Amazon.com shipped
$2399 - 6 July - Paul's TV fulfilled by Amazon.com
$2499 - 6 July - Amazon.com shipped - price includes Megamind 3D starter kit and BD-D5500 3D Blu-ray player
$2669 - 27 June - Buydig.com shipped - price includes BD-D5500 3D Blu-ray player and 3D Megamind starter kit
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Samsung PN64D8000 (MSRP - $3799.99)

Price Low - 6/1 - $2,520 (Tigerdirect.com - temporary price mistake)

$2933 - 7 July - Paul's TV fulfilled by Amazon.com
$3000 - 27 June - US Appliance shipped - price includes Megamind 3D starter kit and BD-D5500 3D Blu-ray player

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PANASONIC
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Panasonic models: first two numbers in model# represent size (ex: TC-P50ST30 = 50" plasma)
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Panasonic TC-P42X3 (720p) (MSRP - $599.95)

Price Low - 6/20 - $479 (6ave fulfilled by Buy.com)

$480 - 17 June - Video & Audio Center fulfilled by Amazon.com
$486- 27 June - 6ave fulfilled by Amazon.com
$500 - 27 June - Amazon.com shipped
$519 - 20 May - US Appliance shipped

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Panasonic TC-P42S30 (1080p) (MSRP - $799.95)

Price Low - 5/24 - $609 (US Appliance)

$640 - 31 May - Buydig.com shipped
$658 - 27 June - Amazon.com shipped
$659 - 6 June - US Appliance shipped

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Panasonic TC-P42ST30 (1080p, 3D) (MSRP - $1099.95)

Price Low - 6/20 - $683 (6ave fulfilled by Amazon.com)

$800 - 22 June - Paul's TV fulfilled by Amazon.com
$877 - 27 June - 6ave fulfilled by Amazon.com
$885 - 28 June - Amazon.com shipped
$898 - 15 June - Abt.com shipped

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Panasonic TC-P46X3 (MSRP - $699.95)

Price Low - 6/18 - $585

$585 - 18 June - Video & Audio Center fulfilled by Amazon.com
$619 - 24 May - US Appliance shipped
$628 - 17 May - Amazon.com shipped

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Panasonic TC-P46S30 (MSRP - $949.95)

Price Low - 6/20 - $709

$709 - 20 June - 6ave fulfilled by Buy.com
$775 - 20 June - Paul's TV fulfilled by Amazon.com
$795 - 27 June - Amazon.com shipped
$797 - 24 May - US Appliance shipped

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Panasonic TC-P46ST30 (MSRP - $1299.95)

Price Low - 10/30 - $869.89

$870 - 30 October - Paul's TV fulfilled by Amazon.com
$982 - 28 June - 6ave fulfilled by Amazon.com
$1,001 - 28 June - Amazon.com shipped
$1,079 - 20 June - Video & Audio Center fulfilled by Amazon.com

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Panasonic TC-P50X3 (MSRP - $799.95)

Price Low - 5/28 - $599 (HH Gregg B&M)

$599 - 22 June - Sears w/ promo code pan75541
$672 - 22 June - 6ave fulfilled by Buy.com
$677 - 6 June - US Appliance shipped
$687 - 20 June - Video & Audio Center fulfilled by Amazon.com
$699 - 14 June - Amazon.com shipped

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Panasonic TC-P50S30 (MSRP - $1099.95)

Price Low - 6/20 - $820

$820 - 20 June - 6ave fulfilled by Amazon.com
$897 - 6 June - US Appliance shipped
$900 - 28 June - Amazon.com shipped

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Panasonic TC-P50ST30 (MSRP - $1499.95)

$899 - 21 November - Amazon.com (fulfilled by Amazon.com)
$899 - 21 November - Newegg.com
$900 - 21 November - Buy.com (fulfilled by TigerDirect)
$899 - 21 November - US Appliance shipped


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Panasonic TC-P50GT30 (ST30 + THX and cleaner bezel) (MSRP - $1899.95)

Price Low - 11/21 - $997 Us-Appliance.com

$1260 - 22 June - Video & Audio Center fulfilled by Amazon.com
$1260 - 22 June - Paul's TV fulfilled by Amazon.com
$1220 - 5 July - World Wide Stero (fulfilled by Amazon.com)
$1347 - 3 June - US Appliance shipped - price includes BDT110 3D Blu-ray Player
$1576 - 28 June - Amazon.com shipped
$1099 - 12 Aug - Sears.com
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Panasonic TC-P55ST30 (MSRP - $1799.95)

Price Low - 7/8 $1188 (Best Buy)

$1188 - July 8th - BestBuy.com and Best Buy B&M + Tax, $70 ship
$1360 - 7 July - Amazon.com shipped
$1399 - 18 May - Buydig.com shipped
$1435 - 22 June - Paul's TV fulfilled by Amazon.com

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Panasonic TC-P55GT30 (MSRP - $2199.95)

Price Low - 10/30 - $1229 (US Appliance)

$1449 - 28 June - Paul's TV fulfilled by Amazon.com
$1586 - 7 July - Paul's TV fulfilled by Amazon.com
$1639 - 3 June - US Appliance shipped - price includes BDT110 3D Blu-ray player
$1653 - 7 July - Amazon.com
$1299 - 30 Oct - US Appliance shipped - price includes BDT110 3D Blu-ray player
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Panasonic TC-P55VT30 (Different panel from ST/GT, Monolithic single sheet of glass) (MSRP - $2799.95)

Note: Panasonic is not allowing online orders for their flagship VTs. You must call into the retailer and place an order.

Price Low -8/26, 9/1 - $1896 (US Appliance)

$2599 - 12 June - US Appliance shipped - price includes BDT110 3D Blu-ray player
1896.96 - 8/26, 9/1 - us appliance with free avatar starter pack and free white glove delivery - http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3254358

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Panasonic TC-P60S30 (MSRP $1899.95)

Price Low - 6/20 - $1221 (6ave fulfilled by Buy.com)

$1316 - 27 June - Video & Audio Center fulfilled by Amazon.com
$1330 - 22 June - Paul's TV fulfilled by Amazon.com
$1512 - 27 June - Amazon.com shipped

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Panasonic TC-P60ST30 (MSRP - $2399.95)

Price Low - 6/27 $1503

$1503 - 27 June - 6ave fulfilled by Buy.com
$1618 - 7 July - World Wide Stereo fulfilled by Amazon.com
$1873 - 20 June - Amazon.com shipped

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Panasonic TC-P60GT30 (MSRP - $2799.95)

Price Low - 6/27 $1894

$2188 - 27 August - Amazon (Ouch, back up)
$1894 - 27 June - 6ave fulfilled by Amazon.com
$1999 - 22 June - US Appliance shipped - price includes BDT110 3D Blu-ray player
$2128 - 7 July - Amazon.com shipped

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Panasonic TC-P65ST30 (MSRP - $3299.95)

Price Low - 6/26 - $1,870 (Video & Audio Center fulfilled by Amazon.com)

$2242 - 27 June - 6ave fulfilled by Amazon.com
$2264 - 7 July - World Wide Stereo fulfilled by Amazon.com
$2524 - 7 July - Amazon.com

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Panasonic TC-P65GT30 (MSRP - $3699.95)

Price Low: 7/7 - $2433

$2433 - 7 July - World Wide Stereo fulfilled by Buy.com
$2599 - 7 July - US Appliance shipped - price includes BDT110 3D Blu-ray player
$2752 - 7 July - Amazon.com shipped

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Panasonic TC-P65VT30 (MSRP - $4299.95)

Note: Like the 55" VT, Panasonic is not allowing online orders for this model. Must call or visit B&M store (very limited number of retailers carrying VTs).

Price Low: 7/6 - $3000

$3000 - 6 July - World Wide Stereo.com
$3700 - 27 June - Clevelandplasma.com - must call for price
$3899 - 27 June - US Appliance shipped - price includes BDT110 3D Blu-ray player

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LG
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LG models: Pretty straight forward. First two numbers on model# represent size of unit (ex: LG 60PZ550 = 60" plasma)
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LG 42PT350 (720p) (MSRP - $599.99)

Price Low - 5/1 - $447

$489 - 27 June - Adorama Camera fulfilled by Buy.com
$499 - 17 June - Amazon.com shipped
$499 - 20 May - US Appliance shipped

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LG 42PW350 (720p, 3D) (MSRP - $799.99)

Price Low - 6/3 - $439 (Fry's B&M)

$469 - 17 June - Fry's B&M
$570 - 27 June - Amazon.com shipped - price includes 2 pairs of 3D active glasses
$689 - 27 June- Buydig Shipped - price includes 2 pairs of active 3D glasses

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LG 50PT350 (MSRP - $799.99)

Price Low - 6/10 - $499 (Fry's B&M)

$599 - 1 June - Paul's TV.com shipped
$629 - 22 June - US Appliance shipped
$650 - 22 June - Amazon shipped

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LG 50PW350 (MSRP - $999.99)

Price Low - 6/3 - $539 (Fry's B&M)

$769 - 18 May - Buydig.com - use
[B]coupon code: LG50PW350
$795 - 28 June - Amazon.com shipped - price includes 2 pairs of 3D active glasses

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LG 50PV450 (1080p) (MSRP - $1099.99)

Price Low - 4/24 - $599 (Fry's B&M)

$699 - 17 June - Costco B&M (Model 50PV400)
$815 - 28 June - Amazon.com shipped
$839 - 18 May - Buydig.com shipped
$859 - 27 June - US Appliance shipped

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LG 50PZ550 (1080p, 3D, Netcast) (MSRP - $1299.99)

Price Low - 6/10 - $799 (Fry's B&M)

$930 - 27 June - Paul's TV fulfilled by Amazon.com
$1013 - 22 June - Amazon.com shipped
$1099 - 15 May - Paul's TV - price includes 2 pairs active 3D glasses, Panasonic BDT-110 Blu-ray player with 3D Avatar Blu-ray after MIR

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LG 50PZ750 (PZ550 + Magic Motion Remote, THX) (MSRP - $1599.99)

Price Low - 6/12 - $1166 (Amazon.com)

$1199 - 27 June - Buydig.com shipped - price includes 2 pairs 3D active glasses
$1219 - 28 June - Amazon.com shipped

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LG 50PZ950 (PZ750 + TruBlack Filter) (MSRP - $1899.99)

Price Low - 6/14 - $1389 (Amazon.com)

$1469 - 28 June - Amazon.com shipped - price includes 2 pairs active 3D glasses, 3D LG BD650 Blu-ray player
$1499 - 31 May - Buydig.com shipped - price includes 2 pairs active 3D glasses, 3D LG BD650 Blu-ray player
$1599 - 6 June - Abt.com - price includes 2 pairs active 3D glasses, 3D LG BD650 Blu-ray player

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LG 60PV450 (MSRP - $1699.99)

Price Low - 6/24 - $899 (Fry's B&M)

$1278 - 22 June - World Wide Stereo fulfilled by Buy.com
$1299 - 10 June - US Appliance shipped
$1391 - 22 June - Amazon.com shipped

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LG 60PZ550 (MSRP - $1899.99)

Price Low - 4/8 - $1099 (Fry's B&M)

$1449 - 31 May - Buydig.com shipped - price includes 2 pairs of 3D active glasses
$1476 - 22 June - Amazon.com shipped - price includes 2 pairs of 3D active glasses
$1549 - 18 May - Paul's TV - price includes 2 pairs of 3D active glasses

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LG 60PZ750 (MSRP - $2199.99)

Price Low - 6/12 - $1572

$1649 - 31 May - Buydig.com shipped
$1669 - 27 June - Amazon.com shipped

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LG 60PZ950 (MSRP $2599.99)

Price Low - 6/23 - $1899

$1970 - 27 June - Amazon.com shipped - price includes 2 pairs of active 3D glasses and LG BD650 3D Blu-ray player (may have to refresh page before 650 pops up (thanks surgeman13!))
$2155 - 18 May - Video & Audio Center.com - price includes 2 pairs of active 3D glasses and 3D Blu-ray player

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#151
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I'm a little concerned about glare because of a big bay window off to the side of our viewing area. It seems as though only Panny's ST and GT really address this issue, but Samsung pricing seems to be a bit better. Plus, I don't want to have to dump another $100 or so to get Panasonic glasses. I'll probably have to wait for the Panny glasses deal. Ugh, i'm so conflicted but I obviously don't want buyer's remorse.... la sigh.

Thanks again for the thread triwood. We should be taking side notes on how long you can keep this up ;D

I thought the samsung plasmas (7000 and 8000 series) had the least glare when I checked out the tvs at Best Buy. I really liked the picture on the Panasonic VT and could almost justify the price premium. However, when I asked them to turn on the ceiling lights, the glare was so bad, the movie was not visible. Make sure you audition these tvs in realistic lighting conditions before buying. Just my 2 cents.
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#152
Quote from FenA View Post :

Thanks again for the thread triwood. We should be taking side notes on how long you can keep this up ;D

It's quickly turning into a full-time job Smilie

The Samsung 64D7000 is starting to get interesting. It's now down to $2499.99 on Buy.com (via Paul's TV). It's $2559 on Amazon and, as of last night, they're now including the 3D starter kit through June 11th. If the 64D8000 made FP at $2749 with no kit, I think the 64D7000 @ $2559 with the starter kit probably belongs up there too.
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Quote from triwood View Post :
Amazon just cut the prices overnight on LG's flagships to all new price lows:

50PZ950: $1489.99 shipped
60PZ950: $1969.99 shipped

And I think they include 2 pairs of glasses and bluray player. is the fact that they are thx certfied make it ia higher model.... was hoping to find a 55" for the price of that 50...
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#154
Quote from DocuMaker View Post :
Sony no longer makes plasmas, and this is a plasma thread.
Same thing with Pioneer too. Mad
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#155
On the wiki, it appears that Panny TC-P50X3 is at $599 - 28 May - HHGregg B&M


On the weekly ad, it appears for 639. was that a special price for a day? Thanks.
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Last edited by alMac May 30, 2011 at 05:31 AM
#156
There's a 50 in LG at Tigerdirect for 599 after coupon. is it a Good deal?
50 inch LG plasma [tigerdirect.com]
The code is UXE31957

Have no FRY's near me so this is the best I've seen in a while. Any reason why it's 720p only? Is it noticeable?
I want to get an Led/LCD for living room and plasma for basement.
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Last edited by toneroni May 30, 2011 at 04:20 PM
#157
personally I think $600 for a 720p 50 in is not a deal if they tack on shipping, $600 shipped is good, not stellar as I have seen deals closer to $500 over past year.... sears has some good deals on rca which I know brandwise lg is better...but I think its 1080p

I personally would not get 720p on bigger than 46"....
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#158
^ can somebody explain not going bigger than 46" 720p plasma? At my viewing distance i could go w/ 46 or 50 so I need to decide which. Thanks!
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#159
Triwood....I feel like I owe you a commission on my new 60" LG!! Picked it up at Fry's (B&M) on Saturday. Without this thread, I wouldn't have known how slick a deal it really was.
(purchased 60PV450 at Fry's LA)
I am surprised that this plasma didn't get more hype on SD, it seemed to slip through the crack's but IMHO it was deal of the year thus far. (for comparable size and technology)
Thanks again Triwood. Your work did not go unnoticed or unappreciated!
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#160
Basically the bigger the set the easier to see the diff betwen 720p and 1080p. On a 42 set for example it is hard to see difference and 720p is fine, imo. You will still get a great pic with a 720p set evn at 50, especially if u have no interest in bluray player in near future because that is the main technology taking advantage of 1080p....however there are tons of threads and disagreements on this at avsforum. o slickdeals and all over the web....it is somewhat off topic in this thread

read the thread on slickdeals frntpage on rca 42 and 46...though lcds and sales tax prob applies

sorry for typos...using cell phone
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#161
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^ can somebody explain not going bigger than 46" 720p plasma? At my viewing distance i could go w/ 46 or 50 so I need to decide which. Thanks!
It depends what you are watching. Everybody talks about resolution, but an important factor is the compression of the source media. This should factor into your decision just as much as native resolution.

Here are some examples (in order of quality)

1) If you are going to watch mostly broadcast HD, then go with 720p. Broadcast uses a more encoded image, so the image isn't all that clean (more mosquito noise, banding etc).

2) If you are planning to watch mostly DVDs with an up-converting DVD player through HDMI, 720P is still fine.

3) If you are watching streaming media (Netflix, Apple TV) then it's a toss up. At this point, the streaming sites can't meet the quality of Blu-ray because of the compression and bitrate, but it's pretty darn good. You will notice an improvement on a 50" tv between 720 and 1080, but the key point here is the streaming companies (Netflix and Apple TV) are constantly improving their compression transmission and bitrate.
(personally I only watch Blu-ray, so I am not well versed on Netflix, but I believe they started with only 720p and 6 months ago they bumped it up to 1080p with 5.1 sound, next year....??) So the point here is, probably want to lean towards a 1080 plasma if this is what you pay for (again, why pay for a 1080p Netflix, and only watch it in 720p)

4)If you are watching primarily blu-ray media, then get 1080p. WHY? Because If you are going to shell out the extra money for a blu-ray disc, then why only watch half the image.

5) If by chance you plan to do any DIY video production, and plan on doing any coloring, then a 1080p monitor is a minimum (ie hooked up to a MAC video card). Down the road you will be working with uncompressed 8 bit or 10 bit files, and you will wish you had a 1080p monitor. I know this isn't the most common use for these tv's, but I had to add it anyway.

6) My biggest gripe is people that watch content on a 65" tv that cost 4k, and use the tv speakers! If your on a tight budget, buy a 720p plasma, and take the money saved and invest in a 5.1 surround sound system. Blu-ray sound is the most underrated factor. This sound upgrade will do more for your viewing experience than the upgrade to 1080p.
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#162
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6) . Blu-ray sound is the most underrated factor. This sound upgrade will do more for your viewing experience than the upgrade to 1080p.
Do you think going from optical to totally lossless audion is necessary for most people?
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#163
Quote from jmsnyc View Post :
Do you think going from optical to totally lossless audion is necessary for most people?
This is a loaded question. Again it all depends on your setup.

For the average person, right now, I would say no. Optical sound works fine for the average person.

First let me re-phrase what I was saying before. The investment of going from built-in tv speakers to a simple optical 5.1 system is huge. IMHO it should be a priority before going from 720 to 1080p.

To answer your question more in depth, optical vs lossless has several variables.

1) Your receiver is obviously important. If it's an old school 2.0 setup then stick with optical. I am assuming by your question, you already know this and have a Dolby True HD or equivalent compatibility.

2) Speakers - it takes a very high quality speaker to actually get the most out of lossless sound. (also, if you live in an apartment or condo, you may not be able to really crank your subwoofer - something to consider)

3) The types of films you watch. If you are into 'talking heads' movies, then you are only really using your center channel anyway. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to dump money into a lossless system. Take that money and buy a top-of-the-line center channel speaker. Older movies also don't really take advantage of 5.1. Even movies from the 80's only used Dolby SR for their original mix. Even if they are remastered, they weren't 'designed' like movies sound today.
The leads into my next point

4)On the other hand, some movies are made for sound. Star Trek, Transformers, District 9 (one of my personal favorite sounding movies), those films invest a tonne to get incredible sound. They have teams of sound designers that work with the mixers to really take things to the next level. You won't be able to get everything out of your speakers unless you build a theatrical screening room.

Personally, I have a lossless system and love it, but I am also in the industry, so it's a priority for me. I have been in the mixing room for several films and a lot of them are set up relatively similar to home systems so you can put a system together for 4 or 5 grand that sounds the same as the smaller studio films mixing facility!
BUT
If I am excited about a tent-pole movie, I always watch it in theaters, you just can't beat the sound in a theater setting. To me, the sound is the main reason to go to a theater (that and the film print intangible that is slowly disappearing.)

I hope I answered your question. I tried to keep it simple without getting to heavy into bitrate, sample rate, bit depth etc,

Good luck
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Same thing with Pioneer too. Mad
well, Pioneer doesn't make any panels here anymore, but they only did plasma Frown I have a 5010 at least.

Sony hasn't made Plasmas for a LONG time.
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The first Panasonic bundle including 2 pairs of glasses popped up at BB [bestbuy.com]. They're calling it the 55GT31, which is obviously a BB exclusive. It includes the 55GT30, 2 pairs of rechargeable glasses, skype camera, BDT110 3D Blu-ray player, Avatar 3D, and wireless adapter for $2249.99 + tax/shipping.

This is hardly a deal, but at least a sign Panasonic will be rolling out the bundles soon.
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