Raids. "And then they came for me, but by then no one was left to speak up."

Quote from trancepire : Way off topic, but...some Les Pauls have great tone, and they have such a reputation that I expected to love them when I was in the market for a guitar recently. Over the course of a few years I probably played fifteen or twenty of them and was never impressed with the way they played. I couldn't find one that both sounded and felt like what I was looking for. Eventually, I broadened my search and ended up with a considerably cheaper Ibanez that is exactly what I was looking for. /anecdote

Ibanez makes fantastic guitars. A buddy of mine that's a studio guitarist, plays one for most of his work, and he also has a couple vintage Les Paul's. I was just pointing out the fallacy of rebound's comment. There aren't many guitarists that would choose a Strat over a LP if they could only have one.

Quote from DBC : Most hilarious quote in the news store: "It isn't just Gibson that is sweating. Musicians who play vintage guitars and other instruments made of environmentally protected materials are worried the authorities may be coming for them next." I don't know who came up with that, but that person should get a Mark Twain Prize for Humor.

So you don't think the government ever goes after individuals, for possession of prohibited items?

Quote from qwertyaas : Fat neck, and not a fan of the look. I would much prefer a Les Paul. Then again, I'm too used to Ibanez's thin necks so I just stick to them. Lets not forgot the acoustic side. Fender acoustics are nothing to write home about.

Now that's an understatement.

Quote from Elmer : So you don't think the government ever goes after individuals, for possession of prohibited items?

I think the person who wrote the article was trying to add some spice to his bland, boring article and pulled some shit out of his ass to grab readers.

Quote from DBC : I think the person who wrote the article was trying to add some spice to his bland, boring article and pulled some shit out of his ass to grab readers.

Government agents with guns, raiding guitar makers over wood, is only "bland and boring" to those who prefer Fascism.

Quote from we-was : Maybe you don't care because it didn't happen to you - yet. We are definitely way down on the slippery slope of collapse. These are just some of the signs of it. What will you do when they come for you?

I don't know Jack Shit about this case, only the information as presented in this article, which may or may not be accurate. I have no idea. But what I do know is that you have to be a complete fool to draw a parallel between the seizure of some allegedly contraband wood and the Gestapo.

Quote from Rebound : I don't know Jack Shit about this case, only the information as presented in this article, which may or may not be accurate. I have no idea. But what I do know is that you have to be a complete fool to draw a parallel between the seizure of some allegedly contraband wood and the Gestapo.

Didn't you just pull the "Hitler" comparison out in another thread in the last couple days?

There are too many unnecessary "raids", with government agents waving guns around, many, who shouldn't have a gun at all [youtube.com].

Gibson corporate officers weren't going to shoot it out with the government over wood.

Quote from Elmer : Government agents with guns, raiding guitar makers over wood, is only "bland and boring" to those who prefer Fascism.

Look at the big picture, homie... People aren't really interested in articles like the one in OP's post. If they were, this thread would be blowing up.

"When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."

Thomas Jefferson

What will good, honest people do when "They" come for you for whatever reason without any warnings?

http://www.naturalnews.com/033466...stice.html

http://www.naturalnews.com/033175..._Park.html

http://www.naturalnews.com/033220...raids.html

Quote from DBC : Most hilarious quote in the news store: "It isn't just Gibson that is sweating. Musicians who play vintage guitars and other instruments made of environmentally protected materials are worried the authorities may be coming for them next." I don't know who came up with that, but that person should get a Mark Twain Prize for Humor.

There's this quote too (and more)

Quote : John Thomas, a law professor at Quinnipiac University and a blues and ragtime guitarist, says "there's a lot of anxiety, and it's well justified." Once upon a time, he would have taken one of his vintage guitars on his travels. Now, "I don't go out of the country with a wooden guitar." "Even if you have no knowledge—despite Herculean efforts to obtain it—that some piece of your guitar, no matter how small, was obtained illegally, you lose your guitar forever," Prof. Thomas has written.

Quote from DBC : Look at the big picture, homie... People aren't really interested in articles like the one in OP's post. If they were, this thread would be blowing up.

Maybe. But add up the posts from all the "why did they do this raid?" threads, and that's a lot of posts.

Quote from Deusxmachina : There's this quote too (and more)

That dude sounds like the typical hyperbolic Fox News commentator that blows shit out of proportion to get his point across. He knows that the government isn't going to track down every guitar owner and take their instruments away from them... he's just trying to fit in with the gun nuts that feel they are being persecuted.

Quote from Deusxmachina : Maybe. But add up the posts from all the "why did they do this raid?" threads, and that's a lot of posts.

Then why don't you make a mega-thread about this subject? All of these topics about raids are basically the same... dudes bugging out about someone getting their material objects taken away and bitching about it.

Quote from DBC : Then why don't you make a mega-thread about this subject?

I did. Hence the generic title.

Quote from DBC : All of these topics about raids are basically the same... dudes bugging out about someone getting their material objects taken away and bitching about it.

That and the stuff about shooting people's dogs for no reason, shooting people for no reason, etc.

People should be free to destroy the environment and rainforests with impunity.

libertarian

/thread

Quote from DBC : Then why don't you make a mega-thread about this subject? All of these topics about raids are basically the same... dudes bugging out about someone getting their material objects taken away and bitching about it.

Along with other dudes supporting just about anything big government wants to do........

Except cut spending of course......

Quote from 124nic8 : People should be free to destroy the environment and rainforests with impunity. libertarian /thread

So just to be sure I understand you. You support confiscation of materials legally harvested in India, that weren't finished by Indian workers? You support taking away any guitar, or other wood product, that was made with wood from the rainforest?