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installing 3rd hard drive in Dell Inspiron 530

flee 1,938 623 October 9, 2011 at 02:03 PM
Im not super pc literate, Ive installed a hard drive in the past, some ram, a PSU, thats about it.

I installed the 2nd hard drive about 2 years ago, so everything is not fresh in my mind.

Im running windows 7.
The OS is on master my 2nd hard drive is slave on the ide.

Can I add this third hard drive and possibly slave it off a dvd drive that I have? I havent opened up my desktop to look inside to have all the answers. Im just posting this in advance to see if adding a 3rd drive is possible, what issues may arise, etc. I know there is another bay available inside.

I currently have a 500 gig(OS) and a 1.5TB connected. Im going to be adding a 2TB.

My PSU is 430W. I don't do any gaming and have the generic video card that dell installed in this 2007-08 desktop. So along with 3 hard drives, I will occasionally attach an external HD, other than that no other drain on the PSU. Can a 430W psu handle this load?

Anyone have a good youtube video or written tutorial for installing a 3rd hard drive. All my searches are pulling up "3rd party software" or installing a 2nd hard drive.

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Should work no problems. If you will be using this drive often I suggest plopping it on that first IDE chain and putting the old slave on a chain with the CDROM drive. Just as an FYI, if you are using the CDROM drive at the same time you are trying to pull data it could present a performance bottleneck, but in general it's not a concern.

Do you only have two IDE ports???
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Im not super pc literate, Ive installed a hard drive in the past, some ram, a PSU, thats about it.

I installed the 2nd hard drive about 2 years ago, so everything is not fresh in my mind.

Im running windows 7.
The OS is on master my 2nd hard drive is slave on the ide.

Can I add this third hard drive and possibly slave it off a dvd drive that I have? I havent opened up my desktop to look inside to have all the answers. Im just posting this in advance to see if adding a 3rd drive is possible, what issues may arise, etc. I know there is another bay available inside.

I currently have a 500 gig(OS) and a 1.5TB connected. Im going to be adding a 2TB.

My PSU is 430W. I don't do any gaming and have the generic video card that dell installed in this 2007-08 desktop. So along with 3 hard drives, I will occasionally attach an external HD, other than that no other drain on the PSU. Can a 430W psu handle this load?

Anyone have a good youtube video or written tutorial for installing a 3rd hard drive. All my searches are pulling up "3rd party software" or installing a 2nd hard drive.
If you have 2 IDE controllers, a primary and a secondary, then yes you could add a third IDE hard drive. I would make the primary HDD the Master drive, the 2nd HDD the slave on the primary controller. I would make the third HDD the Master on the secondary controller with the DVD drive coming in last as the slave on the secondary controller.
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For older motherboard, there should be 2 IDE ports, usually blue and white.
To install, just make sure jumper is set (master or slave, CS cable select may not work in some cases, and sometimes there is a master w/ no slave option, do not select it)
plug in IDE cable (it can only be inserted in one way)
and power cable (also one way only)
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I do not think they make IDE drives that big. It actually seems like you are currently using SATA hard drives and an IDE dvd drive, or maybe even SATA only. Maybe it would help clear things up if you stated which Dell you own.
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Im not super pc literate, Ive installed a hard drive in the past, some ram, a PSU, thats about it.

I installed the 2nd hard drive about 2 years ago, so everything is not fresh in my mind.

Im running windows 7.
The OS is on master my 2nd hard drive is slave on the ide.

Can I add this third hard drive and possibly slave it off a dvd drive that I have? I havent opened up my desktop to look inside to have all the answers. Im just posting this in advance to see if adding a 3rd drive is possible, what issues may arise, etc. I know there is another bay available inside.

I currently have a 500 gig(OS) and a 1.5TB connected. Im going to be adding a 2TB.

My PSU is 430W. I don't do any gaming and have the generic video card that dell installed in this 2007-08 desktop. So along with 3 hard drives, I will occasionally attach an external HD, other than that no other drain on the PSU. Can a 430W psu handle this load?

Anyone have a good youtube video or written tutorial for installing a 3rd hard drive. All my searches are pulling up "3rd party software" or installing a 2nd hard drive.
Are you sure you have an ide drive, or is it sata? I as far as I know they never made ide drives in 500gig - 2tb form, those would be sata drives. If they did you want to move to sata anyway as they are a lot faster.
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Maybe its sata, I was looking at pics of ide ribbons and thought thats what was inside, I havent opened it up in a while. So its probably sata drives if they dont make ide drives that large as they are definitely 500gb and 1.5tb already inside.

Dell Inspiron 530 is the pc
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Maybe its sata, I was looking at pics of ide ribbons and thought thats what was inside, I havent opened it up in a while. So its probably sata drives if they dont make ide drives that large as they are definitely 500gb and 1.5tb already inside.

Dell Inspiron 530 is the pc
I just found a picture of the motherboard of the dell inspiron 530. img [techpowerup.org]

Looks like there is one ide(PATA) port and the other 4 are sata.
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According to the manual, that other connector (8) is for floppy drives. So it looks like the OP's system just has the 4 SATA ports. If 3 of them are already being used, then there is obviously 1 left on the motherboard.

http://support.dell.com/support/e...#wp1184332
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Both SATA and PATA are types of IDE.

Get a SATA hard drive because the Dell Inspiron 530 has at least 2 SATA ports. I don't think any version of the 530 series has more than one PATA IDE connector (link to manual) [dell.com] meaning you can't add a third PATA hard drive, unless you install a PCI card controller (Ebay has combo SATA/PATA PCI controllers based on the VIA VT6421A chip. If you buy one, be sure it's that chip and not the VT6421 or VT6421L, and also verify that the date code for late 2009 or later).
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Both SATA and PATA are types of IDE.

Almost all motherboards made since 2005 have SATA ports built into them:



If yours doesn't, you can still use a SATA drive, through either a SATA-PATA adapter (many do not work well because of bugs -- read all the NewEgg reviews) or a SATA controller that plugs into a PCI or PCI-E slot and is based on a Silicon Image chip (other chips can be buggy). Actually even some older motherboards may need such a controller because their built-in SATA controllers are defective by design and don't work with disk drives that can transfer data faster than 1.5 gigabits/second. Drives with a maximum speed of 3.0Gb/s can be configured for the lower speed limit, but I don't think newer SATA III drives (6.0Gb/s) can be. If your motherboard has an SiS south bridge or a VIA south bridge that is not the VT8237s (other VT8237xx chips are defective).
arg, u're right, I almost forgot it was PATA vs SATA not IDE/SATA..
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Yes they don't make IDE drives that are 2gb. Also count your SATA ports, I have some of these systems around the office and I think your at the limit with what your currently have on the motherboard. You have a couple of options. You can install a PCI or PCIE SATA card and run another few drives inside. You could also install a PCI or PCIE ESATA adapter and run the drive as an ESATA external. No difference in speed. You could also go USB3 router but would have to add a card.
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Are you sure you have an ide drive, or is it sata? I as far as I know they never made ide drives in 500gig - 2tb form, those would be sata drives. If they did you want to move to sata anyway as they are a lot faster.
just as an fyi, I have a 500gb pata drive.
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Are you sure you have an ide drive, or is it sata? I as far as I know they never made ide drives in 500gig - 2tb form, those would be sata drives. If they did you want to move to sata anyway as they are a lot faster.
PATA went up to 500GB (I have one).

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Maybe its sata, I was looking at pics of ide ribbons and thought thats what was inside, I havent opened it up in a while. So its probably sata drives if they dont make ide drives that large as they are definitely 500gb and 1.5tb already inside.

Dell Inspiron 530 is the pc
You only have SATA ports. You can add up to 4 devices. If your CD drive is one, and you have 2 other hard drives, that would mean you have one extra. You can get an add-on card and that can allow you to add more devices.
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Ok to get things correct, Im installing a sata drive. I have a port open on the MOBO and there are plenty of connections coming out of the PSU. My problem is, I am not sure where I can fit the 3rd hard drive. The 2 that I have are in there sideways. I have a bay open below my cd-rom this bay obviously runs parallel to the floor not sideways like the other 2 HDs, could I change that bay which looks too large for my Western Digital 2TB Sata drive into a bay for HDs? This looks like the only spot I can fit this 3rd HD.

In the attached picture there is a cd-rom size(5.25?) bay and below that is a smaller bay right around 4". The sata drive is around 4" wide, but there is a fan in the way from me squeezing the drive into there. I need a super skinny screwdriver to get the screws off the fan, so i wasn't able to do that tonight. So wondering if the bay above that slot and below the cd rom at the top is where I can put my 3rd HD and what type of bay converter or what is the piece I need to make this happen

Edit: Ok looks like I need a "bay bracket" at least thats a search that is producing results on ebay. Now to find out what size
Ok, I guess its a 5.25" to a 3.5" conversion that I need. I guess the 3.5" is in reference to the HDD platter. Its a wd20ears HD

I think im good now, just need the bracket
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