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Aidenolm 39 40 January 3, 2012 at 05:24 AM More Best Buy Deals
Hello everyone,

I recently purchased the LG 47LV4400 TV from best buy. It's the first television I've ever owned... Yeah. I'm serious. Unfortunately I'm not pleased with it.

I've worked as a projectionist for years and got used to noticing fine details and small problems. This television is full of them and I'm not sure if it's something that can be fixed. I notice that the image is incredible and very, very detailed when using a good blu-ray movie when the movie is paused.

However, when the movie plays I notice terrible, terrible ghosting and the image looks like it is an old painting, blotchy and mosaic. This is caused by the Digital Noise Reduction setting. When I turn off that setting I notice that I can see every fine detail that I want and I'm very pleased. Until the camera moves. Then I notice the noise in it's inglorious fullest, making the TV almost flash.

Reps from various stores tell me so many different things from it the problem being not having a $109 monster HDMI cable instead of my XBox one to the problem simply being LCD televisions. Can anyone give me any tips?

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doubleposted. Sorry.
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ya the guys at the big box stores know nothing accept how to sell you TV's usually.

You will probably have better luck at someplace like AVS forums. Where other people probably own this TV.

Start by looking at the reviews on amazon. Does anyone else have your problem? http://www.amazon.com/LG-47LV4400...B005JK0326

Try and take some video of the problem if its really bad.

What is your video source when you notice these problems?
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How close are you sitting?
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ya the guys at the big box stores know nothing accept how to sell you TV's usually.

You will probably have better luck at someplace like AVS forums. Where other people probably own this TV.

Start by looking at the reviews on amazon. Does anyone else have your problem? http://www.amazon.com/LG-47LV4400...B005JK0326

Try and take some video of the problem if its really bad.

What is your video source when you notice these problems?
Thanks much! I'll take a look at AVS. The Amazon reviews didn't quite help me. Most of them complain about the audio, but I've a surround for that. The source is my Blu-ray player through an HDMI cable. It's an Xbox HDMI cable. I've heard that the quality of the cable can make a difference.

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How close are you sitting?
About 10 feet away.
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Thanks much! I'll take a look at AVS. The Amazon reviews didn't quite help me. Most of them complain about the audio, but I've a surround for that. The source is my Blu-ray player through an HDMI cable. It's an Xbox HDMI cable. I've heard that the quality of the cable can make a difference.


About 10 feet away.
HDMI cable should not be an issue. Its a digital cable so it should work. If you have another it would be worth swapping out but I doubt you notice a difference.

Have you looked in the bluray player's settings? Is it possible it is doing some motion bluring? Do you have another source like cable box or game console you can test on too?
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LEDs/LCDs have this problem badly. I have never seen one that didn't accept the really high end ones. I strongly suggest returning it and getting a plasma. Plasma, in addition to having a better picture, does not suffer from motion blur. The "mosaic painting" look that you see is called the "soap opera effect". It is an issue with all LED/LCD and Plasma TVs.
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Some of those newer TVs, particulary the 120hz ones, have interpolation turned on my default. In LG's case I think it's called TruMotion. I would turn off all those fancy features that could affect image quality and see if you like how it looks. Once you've established a baseline you can turn each feature on one by one to see if any of them are making it worse or better.

Good luck and let us know how it turns out!
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How does yours compare to ones in the stores?
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Someone suggested is already, but if it's possible, return and get a plasma. If you notice the motion artifacts now, then it will be hard to ignore them in the future. All LCD (LEDs being a subset) have this problem. I have two plasmas and an LCD at home and the PQ differences are significant. If they made 32 inch plasmas, I would have all plasmas.

That said... if your source is your Blu Ray player, there may be other settings you can change to at least get an acceptable picture. Usually when displaying a Hi Def picture, LCDs are at least OK. For me, the most noticeable difference is when watching SD material.

Also... is your BR player upscaling? (In other words, you may be getting the image from the BR player, but what is the clarity of the actual source material?) Maybe that is the problem?
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Some of those newer TVs, particulary the 120hz ones, have interpolation turned on my default. In LG's case I think it's called TruMotion. I would turn off all those fancy features that could affect image quality and see if you like how it looks. Once you've established a baseline you can turn each feature on one by one to see if any of them are making it worse or better.

Good luck and let us know how it turns out!
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I was terribly disappointed in my 55" LG from 2010 BF. I use it for PS3 and BR playback. Once I reduced or turned off TruMotion, I was much happier. No idea why it has such an odd effect, but to me TruMotion is useless.
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AVSforum.com has electrical engineers who can give you the real answer.

It's the decompression and processing of the digital video signal, not the cables. Also some broadcasters compress their signals a lot more than others do.
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AVSforum.com has electrical engineers who can give you the real answer.

It's the decompression and processing of the digital video signal, not the cables. Also some broadcasters compress their signals a lot more than others do.

Don't you really mean:
some cable companies compress their signals a lot more than others do.
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Don't you really mean:
some cable companies compress their signals a lot more than others do.
I mean all broadcasters, not just cable operators.
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Some of those newer TVs, particulary the 120hz ones, have interpolation turned on my default. In LG's case I think it's called TruMotion. I would turn off all those fancy features that could affect image quality and see if you like how it looks. Once you've established a baseline you can turn each feature on one by one to see if any of them are making it worse or better.

Good luck and let us know how it turns out!
Unfortunately the makers of this TV saw it keep to limit the functionality and customization of this model, making that option, and many others, impossible to change. I've heard the LCD arguement before and I was hoping I could get away with not needing a Plasma (The stories scare me), but I guess that won't happen. Also, Plasmas always looked so drab and the colours looked bad in the stores compared to the LED TVs.

Thanks much everyone.
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