I havent won $H1T .....Horray!!!!!

Sorry, but I find these follow-up posts quite amusing.

What people are basically saying is:
"I don't contribute and therefore I don't have any reps or a high post count. So I don't want Slickdeals to give people who do a better chance at winning."

Quote from Mofo Jones : Seniority shouldn't mean that you automatically win

you mis-read something somewhere - nowhere was it ever said that the older members should always win, just that there should be way more points/entries given for seniority, time browsing, and actually doing helpful stuff - that way they are more likely to win than the 1-post wonders or people who don't contribute as much - this site lives off the contributions of it's users, so how does it reward such contributing users? by rewarding people who spam their referral link more then someone who posts FP deals? - that is the issue, just the weight of the referral links/fb/twitter relative to the weight of the actual, you know, hard-to-earn ones

Quote from slapshot136 : you mis-read something somewhere - nowhere was it ever said that the older members should always win, just that there should be way more points/entries given for seniority, time browsing, and actually doing helpful stuff - that way they are more likely to win than the 1-post wonders or people who don't contribute as much - this site lives off the contributions of it's users, so how does it reward such contributing users? by rewarding people who spam their referral link more then someone who posts FP deals? - that is the issue, just the weight of the referral links/fb/twitter relative to the weight of the actual, you know, hard-to-earn ones

Try being a contest contributor...they don't value that at all in terms of the contests here...and you would think those members would enjoy the contests the most. I have no motivation to hassle friends to sign up and get referral points.

No matter how it is run there will be a number of people who aren't happy.

Quote from Schooby : No matter how it is run there will be a number of people who aren't happy.

Very true!




However, from a "business decision" point of view, if you had to pick one or the other, who would it make more sense to keep "happy"? The people who only join the site to sign up for the contests and do nothing else, or the people who actively contribute to the site and are the reason why you have people come here in the first place? No content = no viewers = no advertising revenue = no more contests anyway.

Quote from Schooby : No matter how it is run there will be a number of people who aren't happy.

But who would you rather keep happy those that are here longterm and contribute in different ways or the ones that just create an account to enter a sweepstake ?

Quote from implode : I think not enough bonuses are given to people who post new contests..#nods to self# why reward only those who post deals that make it to the front page?

because contests dont generate income for SD and thats really the whole motivation for the existance of SD. Contests subforum and all the others are simply there as a courtesy.

Oh and i agree with Phonics i wont quote all their posts to prevent mouse scroll fatigue.

There should be a bonus Number of years x reps x post count

Quote from Scampsters : because contests dont generate income for SD and thats really the whole motivation for the existance of SD. Contests subforum and all the others are simply there as a courtesy.

I think you don't understand how this site works...every time an ad is displayed they get ad view revenue. Every time and ad is clicked on they get even greater revenue. If the click through generates a sale, they get the greatest revenue of all from it.

Since I view 1000's of ads on a daily basis on this site in contest forum, they are making money from it.

And yes they track click throughs on other things besides ad clicks...including of all things contests. Their referral code is appended to sites they have deals with when you click through to a contest site (just as if they were a deal).

My point is if subforums are not profitable from ads displayed, its likely because a bad business deal is in place vs the potential for profit that exists in a well tailored marketing campaign.

Quote from implode : I think you don't understand how this site works...every time an ad is displayed they get ad view revenue. Every time and ad is clicked on they get even greater revenue. If the click through generates a sale, they get the greatest revenue of all from it. .

I have a pretty good idea where revenue streams are coming from

Actually only ads clicked through generate income. Companies like Adchoices and Google have click frauds checks in place to prevent abuse aswell.

When someone posts any url, SD appends its id to all the urls posted to get incentive on the sale but not every merchant pays for a referral. Are you telling when someone posts a youtube link and SD adds its tag it gets an incentive for the post.

I very much doubt SD gets anything when Meritline deals are posted and definately nothing when you post a contest for Womens Day Journal to win a Cuisinart. Not because of a bad business model but simply because these places dont offer affiliate incentives.

Quote from Scampsters : I have a pretty good idea where revenue streams are coming from Actually only ads clicked through generate income. Companies like Adchoices and Google have click frauds checks in place to prevent abuse aswell. When someone posts any url, SD appends its id to all the urls posted to get incentive on the sale but not every merchant pays for a referral. Are you telling when someone posts a youtube link and SD adds its tag it gets an incentive for the post. I very much doubt SD gets anything when Meritline deals are posted and definately nothing when you post a contest on Womens Day Journal to win a Cuisinart. Not because of a bad business model but simply because these places dont offer affiliate incentives.

You are really using ridiculous examples to justify your point...most contests are on company websites of some sort, the same websites that sell items. Half the battle to a sale is getting a customer to the website in the first place. Even if its not for sale they are doing click throughs to get people to educate themselves about the product. Even using WD as an example, its possible if you buy a subscription it is tracked by ad nets and SD gets a cut. And the click through was generated by a contest.

I don't even understand your youtube example or how that is relevant to my discussion on contests being viable, because clearly that is an apples and oranges comparison.

Quote from implode : You are really using ridiculous examples to justify your point...most contests are on company websites of some sort, the same websites that sell items. Half the battle to a sale is getting a customer to the website in the first place. Even if its not for sale they are doing click throughs to get people to educate themselves about the product. Even using WD as an example, its possible if you buy a subscription it is tracked by ad nets and SD gets a cut. And the click through was generated by a contest. I don't even understand your youtube example or how that is relevant to my discussion on contests being viable, because clearly that is an apples and oranges comparison.

SD adds its affiliate tag to all Links posted most dont generate any income.


Unless you click on an ad at the top of your screen how would SD know your sitting there reading it(maybe they secretly they installed a spy cam in my room better wear pants)

Revenue is generated by clickthrough not all clickthrough generates revenues i cant put it any simpler.

SD gets 0 revenue from people clicking on links in the contest forum because none of the companies sponsoring contests even have an affiliate program set up to track and monitor.

If someone subscribes to magazine as a result of entering a contest.
a) The magazine doesnt tell SD here is some $$$
b) SD has no way to even tell what you did after leaving the SD site unless they have an agreement with the Merchant like for instance Amazon affiliate program.


SD has thousands of people on its site every single day but unlike FATWALLET they dont advertise for specific merchants or charge merchants to advertise on SD. they have no control what ads are displayed and most people have banner ads blocked anyway.

Quote from Scampsters : SD adds its affiliate tag to all Links posted most dont generate any income. Unless you click on an ad at the top of your screen how would SD know your sitting there reading it(maybe they secretly they installed a spy cam in my room better wear pants) Revenue is generated by clickthrough not all clickthrough generates revenues i cant put it any simpler. SD gets 0 revenue from people clicking on links in the contest forum because none of the companies sponsoring contests even have an affiliate program set up to track and monitor. If someone subscribes to magazine as a result of entering a contest. a) The magazine doesnt tell SD here is some $$$ b) SD has no way to even tell what you did after leaving the SD site unless they have an agreement with the Merchant like for instance Amazon affiliate program.

You obviously don't understand how cookies work, in relation to ad networks...

Quote from implode : You obviously don't understand how cookies work, in relation to ad networks...

I think its you that fails to understand that SD simply adding the slickdeals tag as a redirect on urls doesnt mean they get even a dime.

Setup a website and add google banners to one corner and see where you get income or dont.


IF SD removed the lounge, finance forum , freebies, contests and gamers lounge there would be 0 income streams lost. People might get upset and no longer participate on SD (which i doubt really would happen despite what they say) but there would be zero $ direct loss of revenue. They are there as a social place to keep members happy.

Quote from james.messick : I enter everyday, with as many enteries as I can and haven't won nothing.

Ahhhhh dont feel bad buddy,someday ya might win


Peace and love to ya!

Meh.. I guess we all need to keep trying to believe winning is possible