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Is Dell right?? SSD and SATA 3 question. Any XPS 8300 owners might help too.

Joe Davola 8,209 11,127 January 18, 2012 at 12:36 PM
So I finally got a Crucial M4 SSD. My bracket to install it in my desktop is arriving today, but then it hit me that I might need a SATA 3 cable. So I chatted with Dell and they said although I have two SATA 3 ports and one is being used by my 2TB HDD that came with the system, they said there won't be a SATA 3 cable and I will need to wait even longer to install my M4. Crying Sadwalk

Is Dell actually right for once? EEK!

FYI I just got my XPS 8300 and never had a need to open it yet and I'm at work so I can't check myself.

Does anyone know for sure? Should I order a cable from eBay now? Reps will be provided. nod

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Is the SSD retail or OEM? I seem to remember my Crucial drive came with a cable. It was retail.
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Is the SSD retail or OEM? I seem to remember my Crucial drive came with a cable. It was retail.

It is retail. I even bought the one with the transfer kit (just because I got Overtock.com to match Buy.com's price for the SSD alone) which has a SATA/USB cable, but I don't recall seeing any other cables in the box.
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Do you have any other SATA cables laying around? If so, you could take the cable from your existing drive and replace it. Then use that cable for the SSD. I doubt the 2TB drive is SATA3 and if it is, then the speed of the drive will never fully saturate the data pipe from the controller to the drive.
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Do you have any other SATA cables laying around? If so, you could take the cable from your existing drive and replace it. Then use that cable for the SSD. I doubt the 2TB drive is SATA3 and if it is, then the speed of the drive will never fully saturate the data pipe from the controller to the drive.
Good solution, The computer has 2x SATA 2 ports and 2x SATA 3 ports. The SSD is the only device fast enough to use SATA3 so use the cable that came with it for the SSD on a SATA3 port.

Put the Optical drive and Hard drive on the SATA2 ports.

SATA cables are backwards compatible, so you can get up and running with the SSD on the SATA 2 cable and then make the switch when the new SATA 3 cable comes in.
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Quote from Joe Davola View Post :
So I finally got a Crucial M4 SSD. My bracket to install it in my desktop is arriving today, but then it hit me that I might need a SATA 3 cable. So I chatted with Dell and they said although I have two SATA 3 ports and one is being used by my 2TB HDD that came with the system, they said there won't be a SATA 3 cable and I will need to wait even longer to install my M4. Crying Sadwalk

Is Dell actually right for once? EEK!

FYI I just got my XPS 8300 and never had a need to open it yet and I'm at work so I can't check myself.

Does anyone know for sure? Should I order a cable from eBay now? Reps will be provided. nod
There is no need for a special cable.
All SATA cables use the same electrical connector and wiring.
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There is no need for a special cable.
All SATA cables use the same electrical connector and wiring.
I thought that the cables were interchangeable. Thanks for the clarification Rocky.
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Quote from rangerlg View Post :
Do you have any other SATA cables laying around? If so, you could take the cable from your existing drive and replace it. Then use that cable for the SSD. I doubt the 2TB drive is SATA3 and if it is, then the speed of the drive will never fully saturate the data pipe from the controller to the drive.
Thanks. Repped. I'm sure that I do have another SATA cable somewhere. Excellent solution. BTW the 2TB drive is definitely SATA3. See linky. Although as you mentioned, it isn't that much quicker than any of my prior hard drives.


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Good solution, The computer has 2x SATA 2 ports and 2x SATA 3 ports. The SSD is the only device fast enough to use SATA3 so use the cable that came with it for the SSD on a SATA3 port.

Put the Optical drive and Hard drive on the SATA2 ports.

SATA cables are backwards compatible, so you can get up and running with the SSD on the SATA 2 cable and then make the switch when the new SATA 3 cable comes in.
Thanks. Repped. BTW what are the chances that Dell actually used a SATA3 cable for my hard drive? laugh out loud
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I thought that the cables were interchangeable. Thanks for the clarification Rocky.
Anytime.
There is talk about cables that are labeled as SATA3 having tighter and/or locking connectors, but there is no internal difference and the only speed advantage would be by way of the interface and not the cables.
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I thought that the cables were interchangeable. Thanks for the clarification Rocky.
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Anytime.
There is talk about cables that are labeled as SATA3 having tighter and/or locking connectors, but there is no internal difference and the only speed advantage would be by way of the interface and not the cables.
So are you saying all SATA3 cables are a scam?

I hope so since I won't have to buy any cables, but THIS [serialata.org] seems to say otherwise.
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So are you saying all SATA3 cables are a scam?

I hope so since I won't have to buy any cables, but THIS [serialata.org] seems to say otherwise.
I'm not saying they are a scam. I'm saying that they are internally the same and that there is talk about slightly higher quality connectors, but there is no speed difference.
If you use cheap cables, you might manage to bottleneck some speed at the cable.
The specs for a SATA3 cables and connectors are a bit more stringent but are basically the same, not to mention that a given manufacturer might not actually meet those tighter specs and still label the cable as SATA3.
The bottom line is that if you believe that your equipment is so fast that the SATA cable could have an effect on transfer speeds, then buy good quality SATA2 or SATA3 cables, specially if they are going a long distance.
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hehe, i was in the same situation but i went out to buy an SATA III port...
unfortunately, I dont get the max read and write... Frown
got an xps 8300 as well.

but still fast though, i get around 380mb/s
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hehe, i was in the same situation but i went out to buy an SATA III port...
unfortunately, I dont get the max read and write... Frown
got an xps 8300 as well.

but still fast though, i get around 380mb/s
You never will get the max, its like saying you got a 30mb down 15mb up internet connection. Sure in a perfect world you could get those speeds but never in real life.
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Quote from Joe Davola View Post :
So are you saying all SATA3 cables are a scam?

I hope so since I won't have to buy any cables, but THIS [serialata.org] seems to say otherwise.
Did you actually read that?

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Changes to the protocol itself are minor, and the physical
connectors and cables remain unchanged.
So the connector is identical!! All they basically said is that shitty cables could be a problem for SATA3, but that's true of anything SATA, Ethernet, etc.
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So the connector is identical!! All they basically said is that shitty cables could be a problem for SATA3, but that's true of anything SATA, Ethernet, etc.
That pretty well sums it up.
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