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Last Edited by widgit April 13, 2012 at 02:59 AM
You need to buy their $15 sim though probably starting Feb 7.

Previously, you had to buy a Nokia smartphone, do a sim swap, keep the Nokia, and not tell Straight Talk. Now, you do not need to do that anymore. Plus, the Nokia only worked on AT&T towers. Looks like Straight Talk will have a sim for AT&T and one for T-Mobile. What sim they give you is probably based on the coverage in your area.


http://www.straighttalksim.com/shop.php

Updated: Now that it is passed Feb 7, we know that you select the sim: an At&t, T-Mobile, or Unlocked. Blackberry, or branded TracFone, SafeLink, NET10 or Straight Talk phones are not supported. Hence, your At&t or T-Mobile phone does not have to be unlocked.

When people did the sim swap previously, they tried to stay within 100mb per day and 2gb for the month. Some people have said that they have used more than that amount without issue. Whether this amount changes because there will now officially have more data intensive phones on the network remains to be seen. None of the mvno's are truly unlimited anyway and put such terms in their agreement because they do not want abusers.

Straight Talk and Net10 are owned by América Móvil. Straight Talk is for Walmart. Net10 is for other retailers. Do you get anything more by paying $5 more to Net10 for their $50 unlimited plan? Most likely not. Walmart itself does not sell the sim. You must purchase this online.

As far a roaming goes, there was limited roaming using the sim swap. I expect this to be the same but will wait for reports.

If you have an At&t phone and get a sim, then it seems like it is the same speed as the sim swap. Not sure what happens with a T-Mobile sim yet, because most T-Mobile phones do not support 850 and 1900 bands in 3g.

Note that the sim only works with the $45 Unlimited Plan. You cannot use the sim + your own gsm phone on any of Straight Talk's other plans. For the other plans, you need to purchase a Straight Talk phone.

Looks like T-Mobile phones will get 3g with this plan after all. It might be that the 850 and 1900 reference is directed at unlocked phones owners as Straight Talk might be sending those people the sim for At&t phones.

Community Wiki

Last Edited by MozartA September 13, 2013 at 10:54 AM
HOW TO PROGRAM FOR DATA & MMS

http://wiki.howardforums.com/inde...alk_iPhone

Just buy from straighttalk website. Pay tax F@twxxxet has 12.5% cashback.

Unlimited talk, text, and data for $45 - per 30 days

Bring your own GSM handset device (No Sprint or Verizon CDMA).


$45 http://www.straighttalksim.com/

or

$50 http://www.net10sim.com/



Unconfirmed:
  • $42/per month if you purchase refills for 3 months at a time. http://www.straighttalk.com/ServicePlans
  • Data speeds - Vary but it is known they will terminate your account or throttled you if you use too much data.
  • Differences between StraightTalk and Net10 options; $5 difference; Net10 refills available at various retailers, ST refills sold online or at Walmart only.
  • Limited to No Roaming

Confirmed:
  • BYOD Sim and MicroSim cards sold. Choice of either AT&T or T-Mobile network
  • Not truly unlimited data; 2GB per month (and less than 100MB per day) is generally a safe bet; restrictions may be implemented including account frozen. See below
  • Straight Talk Users Sue Walmart And TracFone Over Throttling Of Unlimited Data Plans
    and also terminate their ‘unlimited’ customers’ data, typically without any notice or warning

    http://consumerist.com/2013/07/30...ata-plans/
    The plaintiffs in the suit detailed how the companies slowed their speed of service or cut it off it altogether and then blamed the subscribers for misusing of the service. The plaintiffs David Hansel, Edward Tooley and Christopher Valdez filed their claims on behalf of others, and allege breach of contract, breach of covenant of good faith and fair dealing, unjust enrichment, and violations of Florida's Deceptive and Unfair Trade Practices Act, California's Unfair Competition Law and California's Consumer Legal Remedies Act.

    In addition, ........
    “Defendants terminated customers’ data at the behest of their wireless network partners when a particular cell tower is at or near data capacity, regardless of whether that customer’s data usage has exceeded defendants’ secret data usage limits,” the complaint states.


Networks / Coverage

ATT SIM: (Native ATT coverage)

Check gophone coverage: http://www.wireless.att.com/cover...e&opt=payg

Tmobile SIM: (Native Tmobile coverage)

Click on the data map option: https://www.myfamilymobile.com/support/PCC.aspx


ST Terms and Conditions

http://www.straighttalk.com/terms

A must read, as not all services (like streaming video) are permitted.

Need to remember this is not truly Unlimited Data!!! - NO hard limit has been established for data when using ST. However, 1 to 2gb is the general rule of thumb. After you reach that limit, they may lock or cancel your service.


iPhone Users Note

UNLOCKED means you can use your iphone on carriers other than Straight Talk/AT&T, like TMobile, Simple Mobile etc. To use your AT&T iPhone on Straight Talk/AT&T, you DO NOT need it to be UNLOCKED.
To get native MMS/picture messaging working the phone has to only be JAILBROKEN. Read carefully, UNLOCKED and JAILBROKEN are 2 DIFFERENT things.
Any iPhone up to ios 5.0.1 can be JAILBROKEN. This being said, any LOCKED or UNLOCKED AT&T iPhone can be used with the Straight Talk/AT&T sim. Ideally, buy the AT&T sim, as it supports 3G, while the tmobile sim will limit your speeds to 2.5G edge.
LOCKED or UNLOCKED GSM/AT&T Iphone users that live in an AT&T coverage area, order the "AT&T Compatible Phone" regular or micro sim

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Terms and conditions
http://www.straighttalk.com/terms
....
Straight Talk Mobile Web Service is for individual use only and may not be offered for resale. Straight Talk reserves the right to take measures to protect the Carrier’s networks and other users from harm, compromised capacity or degradation in performance. These measures may impact your Service, and we reserve the right to deny, modify or terminate Service, with or without notice, to anyone we believe is using the Straight Talk Service and/or Mobile Web Services in a manner that adversely impacts the Carrier’s network. We may monitor the compliance of subscribers, with these Terms and Conditions, but we will not monitor the content of your communications except as otherwise expressly permitted or required by law.
....
Straight Talk reserves the right to cancel or deactivate service, without notice, in order to protect the Carrier’s network from harm due to any cause including, without limitation, the excessive and/or improper use of Straight Talk service. Straight Talk reserves the right to limit throughput or amount of data transferred, and to deny or terminate Service, without notice, to anyone Straight Talk believes is using the Straight Talk Unlimited Talk, Text and Mobile Web Access Plan in any manner prohibited above or whose usage, in Straight Talk’s sole opinion, adversely impacts the Carrier’s network or service levels. Straight Talk will presume you are engaging in a prohibited use in violation of these Terms and Conditions if in Straight Talk’s sole opinion, you are placing an abnormally high number of calls, or repeatedly placing calls of unusually long duration, or if your talk, text or Mobile Web usage is harmful or disruptive to the Carrier’s network or services. If we determine, at our sole discretion, that you are using an unlimited service in violation of the Straight Talk Terms and Conditions of Service, or in any other manner that we deem to be unreasonable or excessive, then we may terminate individual calls, data connections, Mobile Web Access or terminate your service, decline to renew your service, or offer you a different service plan with no unlimited usage component. Notwithstanding the foregoing, Straight Talk reserves the right to deny service or to deactivate or cancel existing service to anyone for any reason at any time, in Straight Talk’s sole discretion.
....
Straight Talk may discontinue providing Service to you, discontinue your account, or discontinue providing connections to particular telephone numbers or types of Services used or called by you, that, in the sole judgment of Straight Talk: (1) appear likely to generate abnormally high call volumes or Mobile Web Access and data usage and/or abnormally long average call lengths or Mobile Web Access and data usage as compared to the usage of other Straight Talk customers; (2) may be harmful, disruptive, or interfere with the Carrier’s network or the Carrier’s ability to provide service to other customers. For detailed description of such activities, see “Straight Talk Features: Intended Use” under Mobile Web Services Section below. By initiating Service and placing or receiving calls, you acknowledge and agree to Straight Talk’s right to terminate your Service under these circumstances.

Straight Talk may modify or cancel any Service or take corrective action at any time without prior notice and for any reason, including but not limited to your violation of this agreement.
....
7. STRAIGHT TALK UNLIMITED PLANS CANNOT BE USED FOR: (1) access to the Internet, intranets, or other data networks except as the device’s native applications and capabilities permit, or (2) any applications that tether your device to a laptop or personal computer other than for the use of Wireless Sync. IN ADDITION TO THE DISCLAIMERS SET FORTH IN THE AGREEMENT, YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE USE OF THE STRAIGHT TALK MOBILE WEB SERVICES IS AT YOUR SOLE RISK. THE SERVICE IS PROVIDED ON AN "AS IS" AND "AS AVAILABLE" BASIS WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND. STRAIGHT TALK MAKES NO WARRANTY THAT THE STRAIGHT TALK MOBILE WEB SERVICES WILL (i) MEET YOUR REQUIREMENTS, (ii) ALLOW ACCESS TO ALL THIRD PARTY SITES, OR (iii) BE UNINTERRUPTED, TIMELY, SECURE OR ERROR FREE. NO ADVICE OR INFORMATION OBTAINED FROM ANY OTHER SOURCE SHALL CREATE ANY WARRANTY NOT EXPRESSLY STATED IN THE AGREEMENT OR THE STRAIGHT TALK MOBILE WEB SERVICES TERMS OF USE. You are responsible for all activities undertaken by you using the Straight Talk Mobile Web Services, including without limitation, the use of email. You shall not use, nor permit others to use, the Straight Talk Mobile Web Services in a manner or for a purpose contrary to this Agreement.



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I've posted a speedtest from Irvine CA on Iphone 4 ios 5.0.1, been running ST for over a year, no problem, UL DL speeds vary depending on location. Also a pic of the mms settings

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Family member has been using the Nokia E71 for close to a year on ST and tethering lots of laptop time without ANY problems..that said, any and all carriers are abusing the word "unlimited" so ymmv. I agree and understand about your point on unlimited.
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Family member has been using the Nokia E71 for close to a year on ST and tethering lots of laptop time without ANY problems..that said, any and all carriers are abusing the word "unlimited" so ymmv. I agree and understand about your point on unlimited.
what speed do you get for data? 2 3 4G?
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I would say it's going to be T-mobile simply because I dont see how at&t would allow this. This would totally undercut their iPhone subscribers. The Nokia sim is better because it works in any locked at&t phone as well as unlocked.
The problem is that one needs to buy the Nokia phone to get the SIM as these are not available (although possibly ebay). And yes, Att has been selling their network to Tracfone/ST/Net10 for years and it's the Att SIM that the iphone users want/need.
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damn and I just bought a refurb'd phone for the sim card from them last week
oh well, luckily it only cost me $50
Haha I'm full time dentist, part time hacker!
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will iphone 4 work?
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nice deal. even if it's not truly "unlimited"
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will iphone 4 work?
Best iPhone 4 plan ...period!!! I'm typing this message from it now!
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Quote from MozartA View Post :
Need to remember it is not Unlimited Data.
If you do some search, many said Straighttalk has pretty low limit when using at&t network. After you reach that limit, they will lock your number!!!
I heard some number as low as couple hundred MBs a day and One to Two GBs before your number get locked.
If you are using 2 GBs A DAY then they have every right to lock you. It's people like that who are screwing over all the other typical users.
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I guess they figured so many people use their plans with iPhone already anyway, so why not...can't beatt um, join um!!
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What kind of speeds do you get with iphone 4 on either of them?
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Whoa soon as I can order this I plan to!!

Been gimping my smartphone with att pay go for too long..

0 minutes @ 0.10/min Google talk for SMS + data/wifi..
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If I wasn't on Virgin Mobile $25 plan and the $120 Motorola Triumph I would be all over this.
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Quote from uberjon View Post :
Whoa soon as I can order this I plan to!!

Been gimping my smartphone with att pay go for too long..

0 minutes @ 0.10/min Google talk for SMS + data/wifi..
true SDer ^
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This is only a good deal if Tmobile sucks in your area (if this is even ATT service). If this is just Tmobile, it sucks because you will be paying the same price and not get roaming or faster 4G speeds.

Simple Mobile (no voice roaming) @ $40
Tmobile prepaid (voice roaming+100MB 4G; Unlim 2G) @ $45
Walmart Mobile (Tmobile) has cheapest prepaid family plans.

All are BYOD.
I think the Tmobile prepaid plan is now $50, but if you have a link to it at $45 please post!
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Quote from cuoreesitante View Post :
If you are using 2 GBs A DAY then they have every right to lock you. It's people like that who are screwing over all the other typical users.
I mean couple hundred MBs a day
OR one to two GBs a month

They likely lock your number. Do the google search yourself and see what Straight Talk users said.
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