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Last Edited by widgit April 13, 2012 at 02:59 AM
You need to buy their $15 sim though probably starting Feb 7.

Previously, you had to buy a Nokia smartphone, do a sim swap, keep the Nokia, and not tell Straight Talk. Now, you do not need to do that anymore. Plus, the Nokia only worked on AT&T towers. Looks like Straight Talk will have a sim for AT&T and one for T-Mobile. What sim they give you is probably based on the coverage in your area.


http://www.straighttalksim.com/shop.php

Updated: Now that it is passed Feb 7, we know that you select the sim: an At&t, T-Mobile, or Unlocked. Blackberry, or branded TracFone, SafeLink, NET10 or Straight Talk phones are not supported. Hence, your At&t or T-Mobile phone does not have to be unlocked.

When people did the sim swap previously, they tried to stay within 100mb per day and 2gb for the month. Some people have said that they have used more than that amount without issue. Whether this amount changes because there will now officially have more data intensive phones on the network remains to be seen. None of the mvno's are truly unlimited anyway and put such terms in their agreement because they do not want abusers.

Straight Talk and Net10 are owned by América Móvil. Straight Talk is for Walmart. Net10 is for other retailers. Do you get anything more by paying $5 more to Net10 for their $50 unlimited plan? Most likely not. Walmart itself does not sell the sim. You must purchase this online.

As far a roaming goes, there was limited roaming using the sim swap. I expect this to be the same but will wait for reports.

If you have an At&t phone and get a sim, then it seems like it is the same speed as the sim swap. Not sure what happens with a T-Mobile sim yet, because most T-Mobile phones do not support 850 and 1900 bands in 3g.

Note that the sim only works with the $45 Unlimited Plan. You cannot use the sim + your own gsm phone on any of Straight Talk's other plans. For the other plans, you need to purchase a Straight Talk phone.

Looks like T-Mobile phones will get 3g with this plan after all. It might be that the 850 and 1900 reference is directed at unlocked phones owners as Straight Talk might be sending those people the sim for At&t phones.
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Last Edited by MozartA September 13, 2013 at 10:54 AM
HOW TO PROGRAM FOR DATA & MMS

http://wiki.howardforums.com/inde...alk_iPhone

Just buy from straighttalk website. Pay tax F@twxxxet has 12.5% cashback.

Unlimited talk, text, and data for $45 - per 30 days

Bring your own GSM handset device (No Sprint or Verizon CDMA).


$45 http://www.straighttalksim.com/

or

$50 http://www.net10sim.com/



Unconfirmed:
  • $42/per month if you purchase refills for 3 months at a time. http://www.straighttalk.com/ServicePlans
  • Data speeds - Vary but it is known they will terminate your account or throttled you if you use too much data.
  • Differences between StraightTalk and Net10 options; $5 difference; Net10 refills available at various retailers, ST refills sold online or at Walmart only.
  • Limited to No Roaming

Confirmed:
  • BYOD Sim and MicroSim cards sold. Choice of either AT&T or T-Mobile network
  • Not truly unlimited data; 2GB per month (and less than 100MB per day) is generally a safe bet; restrictions may be implemented including account frozen. See below
  • Straight Talk Users Sue Walmart And TracFone Over Throttling Of Unlimited Data Plans
    and also terminate their ‘unlimited’ customers’ data, typically without any notice or warning

    http://consumerist.com/2013/07/30...ata-plans/
    The plaintiffs in the suit detailed how the companies slowed their speed of service or cut it off it altogether and then blamed the subscribers for misusing of the service. The plaintiffs David Hansel, Edward Tooley and Christopher Valdez filed their claims on behalf of others, and allege breach of contract, breach of covenant of good faith and fair dealing, unjust enrichment, and violations of Florida's Deceptive and Unfair Trade Practices Act, California's Unfair Competition Law and California's Consumer Legal Remedies Act.

    In addition, ........
    “Defendants terminated customers’ data at the behest of their wireless network partners when a particular cell tower is at or near data capacity, regardless of whether that customer’s data usage has exceeded defendants’ secret data usage limits,” the complaint states.


Networks / Coverage

ATT SIM: (Native ATT coverage)

Check gophone coverage: http://www.wireless.att.com/cover...e&opt=payg

Tmobile SIM: (Native Tmobile coverage)

Click on the data map option: https://www.myfamilymobile.com/support/PCC.aspx


ST Terms and Conditions

http://www.straighttalk.com/terms

A must read, as not all services (like streaming video) are permitted.

Need to remember this is not truly Unlimited Data!!! - NO hard limit has been established for data when using ST. However, 1 to 2gb is the general rule of thumb. After you reach that limit, they may lock or cancel your service.


iPhone Users Note

UNLOCKED means you can use your iphone on carriers other than Straight Talk/AT&T, like TMobile, Simple Mobile etc. To use your AT&T iPhone on Straight Talk/AT&T, you DO NOT need it to be UNLOCKED.
To get native MMS/picture messaging working the phone has to only be JAILBROKEN. Read carefully, UNLOCKED and JAILBROKEN are 2 DIFFERENT things.
Any iPhone up to ios 5.0.1 can be JAILBROKEN. This being said, any LOCKED or UNLOCKED AT&T iPhone can be used with the Straight Talk/AT&T sim. Ideally, buy the AT&T sim, as it supports 3G, while the tmobile sim will limit your speeds to 2.5G edge.
LOCKED or UNLOCKED GSM/AT&T Iphone users that live in an AT&T coverage area, order the "AT&T Compatible Phone" regular or micro sim

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Terms and conditions
http://www.straighttalk.com/terms
....
Straight Talk Mobile Web Service is for individual use only and may not be offered for resale. Straight Talk reserves the right to take measures to protect the Carrier’s networks and other users from harm, compromised capacity or degradation in performance. These measures may impact your Service, and we reserve the right to deny, modify or terminate Service, with or without notice, to anyone we believe is using the Straight Talk Service and/or Mobile Web Services in a manner that adversely impacts the Carrier’s network. We may monitor the compliance of subscribers, with these Terms and Conditions, but we will not monitor the content of your communications except as otherwise expressly permitted or required by law.
....
Straight Talk reserves the right to cancel or deactivate service, without notice, in order to protect the Carrier’s network from harm due to any cause including, without limitation, the excessive and/or improper use of Straight Talk service. Straight Talk reserves the right to limit throughput or amount of data transferred, and to deny or terminate Service, without notice, to anyone Straight Talk believes is using the Straight Talk Unlimited Talk, Text and Mobile Web Access Plan in any manner prohibited above or whose usage, in Straight Talk’s sole opinion, adversely impacts the Carrier’s network or service levels. Straight Talk will presume you are engaging in a prohibited use in violation of these Terms and Conditions if in Straight Talk’s sole opinion, you are placing an abnormally high number of calls, or repeatedly placing calls of unusually long duration, or if your talk, text or Mobile Web usage is harmful or disruptive to the Carrier’s network or services. If we determine, at our sole discretion, that you are using an unlimited service in violation of the Straight Talk Terms and Conditions of Service, or in any other manner that we deem to be unreasonable or excessive, then we may terminate individual calls, data connections, Mobile Web Access or terminate your service, decline to renew your service, or offer you a different service plan with no unlimited usage component. Notwithstanding the foregoing, Straight Talk reserves the right to deny service or to deactivate or cancel existing service to anyone for any reason at any time, in Straight Talk’s sole discretion.
....
Straight Talk may discontinue providing Service to you, discontinue your account, or discontinue providing connections to particular telephone numbers or types of Services used or called by you, that, in the sole judgment of Straight Talk: (1) appear likely to generate abnormally high call volumes or Mobile Web Access and data usage and/or abnormally long average call lengths or Mobile Web Access and data usage as compared to the usage of other Straight Talk customers; (2) may be harmful, disruptive, or interfere with the Carrier’s network or the Carrier’s ability to provide service to other customers. For detailed description of such activities, see “Straight Talk Features: Intended Use” under Mobile Web Services Section below. By initiating Service and placing or receiving calls, you acknowledge and agree to Straight Talk’s right to terminate your Service under these circumstances.

Straight Talk may modify or cancel any Service or take corrective action at any time without prior notice and for any reason, including but not limited to your violation of this agreement.
....
7. STRAIGHT TALK UNLIMITED PLANS CANNOT BE USED FOR: (1) access to the Internet, intranets, or other data networks except as the device’s native applications and capabilities permit, or (2) any applications that tether your device to a laptop or personal computer other than for the use of Wireless Sync. IN ADDITION TO THE DISCLAIMERS SET FORTH IN THE AGREEMENT, YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE USE OF THE STRAIGHT TALK MOBILE WEB SERVICES IS AT YOUR SOLE RISK. THE SERVICE IS PROVIDED ON AN "AS IS" AND "AS AVAILABLE" BASIS WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND. STRAIGHT TALK MAKES NO WARRANTY THAT THE STRAIGHT TALK MOBILE WEB SERVICES WILL (i) MEET YOUR REQUIREMENTS, (ii) ALLOW ACCESS TO ALL THIRD PARTY SITES, OR (iii) BE UNINTERRUPTED, TIMELY, SECURE OR ERROR FREE. NO ADVICE OR INFORMATION OBTAINED FROM ANY OTHER SOURCE SHALL CREATE ANY WARRANTY NOT EXPRESSLY STATED IN THE AGREEMENT OR THE STRAIGHT TALK MOBILE WEB SERVICES TERMS OF USE. You are responsible for all activities undertaken by you using the Straight Talk Mobile Web Services, including without limitation, the use of email. You shall not use, nor permit others to use, the Straight Talk Mobile Web Services in a manner or for a purpose contrary to this Agreement.



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I've posted a speedtest from Irvine CA on Iphone 4 ios 5.0.1, been running ST for over a year, no problem, UL DL speeds vary depending on location. Also a pic of the mms settings

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#46
Some of you probably know about the SIM swap from the ST Nokia smartphones. http://wiki.howardforums.com/inde...lk_Android
But, this is new from Straight Talk and different in that they are allowing you to bring your own phone.

http://www.howardforums.com/showt...Data-Limit
(I started that thread btw) I did some "research" into how much data would get your data cut off on Straight Talk and found that 100MB a day and 2GB a month are safe amounts to use. I haven't heard of anyone getting kicked off who followed both of those "rules".

However, with these SIM only deals, we have no idea what the "safe" data limit is, but I suspect its going to be no different. They may employ other measures (ie throttling) instead of kicking you off, but that remains to be seen.

Theres a whole thread about this on Howard Forums (my username is the same over there):
http://www.howardforums.com/showt...a-Loophole)
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Quote from poo View Post :
That doesn't apply to the new BYOD/SIM card only plans.

You can prepay service I see. But that is ~$41 + tax. <$5 more gets you roaming, much better CS, and easier refill options.
Not necessarily, they allow you to transfer an existing Straight Talk line over to this new plan and in all previous ST to ST service transfers, you get to keep your current account balance.

Whether or not you can add those cards to your ST SIM only account is another story. I suspect the answer is yes however.

Quote from mdboyz69 View Post :
go for Simple Mobile (T-mobile reseller) for $40 flat rate, no hidden free. unlimited talk, text, and data.
And enjoy sub 300kbps speeds (regardless of phone)
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#48
Quote from poo View Post :
No where does it state the speeds for data. 2G unlimited or very throttled 3G with caps is most likely.
It is not just likely but it is known that Straight Talk with lock your phone number if you use as low as couple hundred MBs of data a day OR one to two GBs data a month.

There are many thread that discuss data usage and you can easily find those Straight Talk threads using google search.
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This is for sure a slickdeal!! Can't wait! worshipworshipworshipworship
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#50
i use A TON of data, everyday, and never have had an issue. Have an iphone on the service for last 8 months.
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Game changer for sure.
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Or you know you can get http://simplemobile.com/ for $40 a month for unlimited everything and they support any unlocked GSM phone.

Moved my Dad's 3GS from at&t to it. It does use T-Mobile's network, so no 3G for at&t phones, but still.
and the correct link is http://www.mysimplemobile.com/
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#53
Warning: If you're using an iPhone 4 and they give you a T-Mobile SIM...You WILL NOT get 3G data access. It only works on 2G Edge.

And speaking based on experience (a friend has their) iPhone 4 on T-Mobile is miserably slow, almost not worth getting...it's that slow. Especially not when you can pick up a 4G Android and pay even less for the phone.

Also, if you do manage to get on AT&T...1-2 GB a month is more than enough. The only way I managed to hit 3 GB on my AT&T Unlimited plan was by streaming music while I slept for a month laugh out loud And my 4S gets consistent speeds over 5 Mbps using HSPA+.
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so is this like a lottery when it comes to what sim you get? This makes no sense. The only way I can avoid EDGE speeds is if I buy one AT&T phone and one T-mobile phone, buy their sim and throw away the non-3g sim. wow!!!
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i use A TON of data, everyday, and never have had an issue. Have an iphone on the service for last 8 months.
What's "a ton"?


And, how can you guarantee an ATT sim?
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any one have use Google voice on Straight Talk and/ or Simple Mobile with success?
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Game changer for sure.

Game changer for AT&T Iphone users. I'm on T-mobile and I've always had other unlimited options cheaper than this! yummy
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#58
I just bought a Japanese phone which does not fit in the Tmobile 4g network. I only got 2g data speed.

This seems a good deal for me.
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Quote from uberjon View Post :
Whoa soon as I can order this I plan to!!

Been gimping my smartphone with att pay go for too long..

0 minutes @ 0.10/min Google talk for SMS + data/wifi..
That's cool, since you use 0 minutes, what does it end up costing you overall? Are there any other fees?
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Quote from luischav3z View Post :
The 50 plan is from net 10
the 45 plan is from straight talk

Wow, you came up with that all by yourself? worship
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