Serious Question: Could Santorum Win?

Quote from nobama : Rebound, you tried to claim in a post intended to be critical of RS that "Rick Santorum's website categorically states that his Attorney General will prosecute all forms of pornography and that he will prohibit abortions not only in America, but in foreign countries as well." I called BS. Provide the links to the quotes of the actual categorical statements or apologize. No word games, no spin, no explanations. Back up what exactly what you say or apologize. Everyone can be mistaken or outright wrong with the best of intentions, and I'm certainly no exception, but I cannot stand a liar. Let's discuss the issues, candidates' positions and their faults, but we don't need to lie to try to make someone sound or look bad - we already have the MSM who are masters of that.

What form of pornography Rick Santorum won't prosecute? Sounds like man-on-woman, woman-on-woman, man-on-man, 2-way, 3-way, midget, redhead, blonde, brunette... he'll ban all of it.

Quote from Rebound : What form of pornography Rick Santorum won't prosecute? Sounds like man-on-woman, woman-on-woman, man-on-man, 2-way, 3-way, midget, redhead, blonde, brunette... he'll ban all of it.

Read his website - you already said that it categorically states his position.

Now, quote it for us.

Quote from nobama : Read his website - you already said that it categorically states his position. Now, quote it for us.

I did quote it, and I hyperlinked, and I explained. You are obviously just trying to provoke an argument and get a rise out of me. Do it just one more time, and I'll put you on my Ignore list, and then I'll never answer another stupid question you post. Please, be my guest, troll away. I answered your stupid trolling question three times.

Quote from Rebound : What you said is completely incorrect. His policy is to eliminate ALL funding to ANY healthcare facility which performs a single abortion or even tells a woman where she can get an abortion! So if one intern in a giant city hospital tells a single pregnant woman where she can go to get an abortion for any reason, that hospital would lose ALL US funding. That is not the same as saying that Federal money won't fund abortions. But this ignores the REAL ISSUE: Mexico, for example, is literally falling apart at the seams. And Rick Santorum's gift to Mexico is to cut hospital funding if they hire a pro-abortion doctor. Yeah, great, that's the Number One Issue facing Mexico today, isn't it? It's a stupid foreign policy which exports our morality to another nation. Is it going to help Mexico restore democracy? Will it combat poverty, feed people, save any lives, help restore civil order? Will it do anything to help improve America's stature in any other nation? No. His signature foreign policy is abortion. What a friggin idiot.

Quote from Rebound : Categorically, he opposes all illegal pornography, which he describes as ALL "hard core" pornography, which is whatever he thinks it means. He states that he supports a group called "War on Illegal Pornography Coalition," and Santorum clearly states that he wants to prosecute everyone who distributes "hard core" pornography in hotel rooms, on the Internet, on cable/satellite TV, in retail stores, through the mail, or via common carrier. Pretty comprehensive, if you ask me. I can't really think of another way to distribute porn, although I'm pretty sure that if this guy gets elected president, somebody will invent one. I'm sure you want to play more word games with me, and say that it's all ok, since Rick Santorum supports soft core porn. No doubt that if you ask Rick Santorum what that means, he won't tell you.

Quote from Rebound : What form of pornography Rick Santorum won't prosecute? Sounds like man-on-woman, woman-on-woman, man-on-man, 2-way, 3-way, midget, redhead, blonde, brunette... he'll ban all of it.

Quote from Rebound : I did quote it, and I hyperlinked, and I explained. You are obviously just trying to provoke an argument and get a rise out of me. Do it just one more time, and I'll put you on my Ignore list, and then I'll never answer another stupid question you post. Please, be my guest, troll away. I answered your stupid trolling question three times.

More lies, more spin, more deflection.

Show me just one hyperlink in the posts that you wrote responding to mine. Show where you quoted RS's website showing that "Rick Santorum's website categorically states that his Attorney General will prosecute all forms of pornography and that he will prohibit abortions not only in America, but in foreign countries as well". I've even made it easy for you by including your actual posts above. In fact, the only hyperlinks in the entire thread other than the one in your OP were made by myself except for one by Epiphyte.

I'm not trying to provoke an argument, I'm trying to get you to stop lying in order to further your agenda and admit that you were wrong. Let's discuss things here on TP with honesty and without the need to lie and deceive. If we're wrong, let's admit it. I've confronted you in the past on a similar issue and received a similar response, hence my reason for not letting go so easily.

I'm no obama fan, and when I post criticism of him I might unintentionally post something that is untrue or I might be wrong somewhere, and if I am, I have and will admit it and have and will apologize, but I absolutely guarantee you I will not post anything that I personally know to be false or make up a lie and post it as truth. I cannot stand liars.

Hate my guts if you want for what I believe and what I say and for who and what I am, but you won't be able to hate me for intentionally trying to lie and deceive.

Now, if you want to put me on ignore, have at it.

Quote from 124nic8 : Obama's position has always been that Iraq was the stupid war.

Yes, and he thought Afghanistan is the "good" war. And he's losing that war. You know you're losing a war when even Newt Gingrich says it's time to leave.

Quote from Homefrrie : If Santorum wins, I might call Jesse The Body and see if he had an extra room for me

I'd call Chuck Norris, but he endorsed Newt the other day.

Quote from Rebound : But this ignores the REAL ISSUE: Mexico, for example, is literally falling apart at the seams. And Rick Santorum's gift to Mexico is to cut hospital funding if they hire a pro-abortion doctor. Yeah, great, that's the Number One Issue facing Mexico today, isn't it?

Wait... we're funding Mexico's hospitals?

Can Santorum win? Combine "anyone but Obama," with $5+ gas, and a whole lot of Bible thumping, and Santorum can win.

Like I've said... oh well, at least he was against TARP. I guess that's something.

Quote from nobama : Now, if you want to put me on ignore, have at it.

Done.

Quote from Deusxmachina : Can Santorum win? Combine "anyone but Obama," with $5+ gas, and a whole lot of Bible thumping, and Santorum can win.

But those are only messages that resound with Conservative voters. Moderates are not going to turn Obama out on a slogan of "anyone but Obama," which is a slogan of desperation. And if gas costs $5/gallon this summer, guess what? It will fall in late October. Not because of a conspiracy, but because of the seasonal nature of the petroleum market.

Quote from Deusxmachina : Yes, and he thought Afghanistan is the "good" war. And he's losing that war. You know you're losing a war when even Newt Gingrich says it's time to leave.

Or else we've "won." al Qaeda is gone and the Taliban are out of power. The only thing we're losing is "nation building" which is not war (and may be impossible).

Newt is not the arbiter of winning; esp not just by saying it's time to leave.

Obama is trying to get Netanyahu to hold off on Iran until 2013. (No surprise.)

And even though being in Afghanistan has been pretty much a waste for years now, and even though even some of the GOP are starting to think hey maybe we should leave, and even though it's Obama's "good" war, I figure he will recommend a withdrawal as the election gets closer. Thus becoming "the peace President" who ended Iraq, (even though Bush had already planned that part out right before he left office), and who ended Afghanistan.

Of course, the U.S. won't actually leave Afghanistan, just like it won't leave Iraq, but people will lap it up anyway.

Quote from Rebound : But those are only messages that resound with Conservative voters. Moderates are not going to turn Obama out on a slogan of "anyone but Obama," which is a slogan of desperation. And if gas costs $5/gallon this summer, guess what? It will fall in late October. Not because of a conspiracy, but because of the seasonal nature of the petroleum market.

If gas hits $5 a gallon by summer, it won't be soon forgotten.
The seasonal drop in price, likely won't matter at that point.

I wonder what gas will have to get to, before we can expect Nancy to hold a press conference as she did when Bush was in office...

Quote from 124nic8 : Or else we've "won." al Qaeda is gone and the Taliban are out of power. The only thing we're losing is "nation building" which is not war (and may be impossible). Newt is not the arbiter of winning; esp not just by saying it's time to leave.

You have a warped definition of "winning"
Have you noticed the sort of shit going down in that country?

Do you not expect the Taliban and al Qaeda to come back as soon as we leave?
Hell, the good Afghan people will likely welcome them with open arms...

Certainly Santorum can win.

There was a shift in the number of electoral votes heavily favoring Redstates.

If you look at the map at 270towin.com. [270towin.com]..

GOP is likely to recover North Carolina and Virginia....and Missouri and Indiana. If they can pick up Colorado and Iowa...and win Florida with popular Senator Rubio on the ticket, then that leaves a 12 point gap of 275 to 263, which means that winning Nevada ties the electoral college and neither PA or Ohio is needed. New Hamphire wins it.

Dont forget Scott Walker will have voters out in droves and a possible GOP pickup in Wisconsin.

But if the GOP wins Florida and either Pennsylvania or Ohio, then it is pretty much a done deal.

Look at the 2004 results and then switch Ohio to the Dem column. Give Obama NM after that and its a dead heat. But NH is in play.

It is very doable.


The real issue is Obama's war chest and the MSM shilling for him anyways. NPR is running a series on the rosy views of the economy, currently. < not kidding

Quote from OhNoItsDEVO : If gas hits $5 a gallon by summer, it won't be soon forgotten. The seasonal drop in price, likely won't matter at that point. I wonder what gas will have to get to, before we can expect Nancy to hold a press conference as she did when Bush was in office...

Never underestimate the power of MSM shills.


Speaking of which...

Chu to Congress: We’re not interested in lowering gas prices Feb 29, 2012
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Chu: Uh, never mind on that European gas prices goal Mar 13, 2012 [hotair.com]

I think we all know Chu's real thoughts on this matter. They are far Left, European gas price level utopian dreams. Never mind the economy, or the poor slub trying to get to work in the Ford Truck his dead pappy left to him.....if he even has a job. Social engineering the high tech utopian future is much sexier than developing our massive shale oil deposits.

Quote from EscapeVelo : I think we all know Chu's real thoughts on this matter. They are far Left, European gas price level utopian dreams.

they are not even thoughts...in previous testimony he OUTRIGHT stated he wants to push US gas prices to European levels...a moment of unintended honesty...now he has to lie to hide his true intentions and those of his master...Just like his master who stated that as part of his energy plan, "energy prices would necessarily skyrocket" and is now trying to spin his way around that...this entire administration are pack of liars and scum bags

did you hear the audio of his response? you can tell he knew he was lying, and was trying to explain his incredulous "change" of heart...I could hear him squirm and word-smith his way through the answer. Seeing the response in a text transcript does not do it justice...you have to hear / see the audio/video to hear the stammering and lying...he is a bad liar...definitely not as good as his master.