Just when you didn't think the economy could get any worse.

Quote from thikthird : A $5 mil house in a neighborhood full of mid- to high- $1 mil range house. yes, there are outliers. i'm not ignoring that. that phrase doesn't even mean anything. a $5 mil house can not look like a million dollar house either.

You mean $1M apts, not houses. And it's not an outlier. Show me the $1M apt next to that house. You can't.

Hm.. more selective quoting? Of course, that's to be expected. I said that in context to someone coming from the midwest. Let's look at a $1M house in the midwest shall we.



Let's look at a $1M apt in the Marina. There will be 2 or 4 apts in that building.



Hm..... which one do you think people would think looks like a "million dollar house"?

It was actually a PITA to find a house that was worth a million in the midwest. I had to try a few cities just to get that one. It was easy to find a $1M apt in the Marina. It was easier to do a search from "low to high" since it's on the bottom half of the scale.

This dude is worse than nic with his nitpicking....

Quote from travfar : You mean $1M apts, not houses. And it's not an outlier. Show me the $1M apt next to that house. You can't. Hm.. more selective quoting? Of course, that's to be expected. I said that in context to someone coming from the midwest. Let's look at a $1M house in the midwest shall we. Let's look at a $1M apt in the Marina. There will be 2 or 4 apts in that building. Hm..... which one do you think people would think looks like a "million dollar house"? It was actually a PITA to find a house that was worth a million in the midwest. I had to try a few cities just to get that one. It was easy to find a $1M apt in the Marina. It was easier to do a search from "low to high" since it's on the bottom half of the scale.

it's not selective quoting, you flat out said $5 mil when that's way off base. that line and the context support me.

those both look like $1mil houses.

Quote from thikthird : it's not selective quoting, you flat out said $5 mil when that's way off base. that line and the context support me. those both look like $1mil houses.

It is selective since you ignored the ongoing description. That's the definition of selective.

That Marina apt could fit in the garage of that house in the midwest. So if that apt and that house were sitting right next to each other and were the same price(which they are by the way), you wouldn't pick one over the other? It's all the same to you?

Quote from travfar : It is selective since you ignored the ongoing description. That's the definition of selective. That Marina apt could fit in the garage of that house in the midwest. So if that apt and that house were sitting right next to each other and were the same price(which they are by the way), you wouldn't pick one over the other? It's all the same to you?

i didn't ignore the next sentence, it just didn't add anything to the context.

no, i'd probably go with the marina house. i hate boring cookie cutter mcmansions in the midwest.

Quote from thikthird : i didn't ignore the next sentence, it just didn't add anything to the context. no, i'd probably go with the marina house. i hate boring cookie cutter mcmansions in the midwest.

It added everything to the context. It's like taking "Garbage is tasty. For a rat." And only reading "Garbage is tasty". Not the same meaning at all.

So you'd rather have a cookie cutter Marina apt. Have you ever been there? Seems not since you would know that most of the Marina buildings looks very similar. If you knew anything about it, you'd realize why it doesn't look like a "million dollar" neighborhood. That's been a recent change.

Quote from travfar : It added everything to the context. It's like taking "Garbage is tasty. For a rat." And only reading "Garbage is tasty". Not the same meaning at all. So you'd rather have a cookie cutter Marina apt. Have you ever been there? Seems not since you would know that most of the Marina buildings looks very similar. If you knew anything about it, you'd realize why it doesn't look like a "million dollar" neighborhood. That's been a recent change.

thing is, your second sentence doesn't necessarrily qualify your first.

it's like saying. "this hamburger sure is good. this hamburger doesn't look like a banana." it can still taste good or not taste good. a house that you claim is $5mil (which you did) may or may not look like a house that's $1mil. saying it doesn't look like it's $1mil doesn't preclude it from looking like it's $5mil.

"it doesn't look like a million dollar house." could mean it looks like a $250,000 house or a $10,000,000 house or any other price, just not a $1mil house.

perhaps you spoke poorly, and if so, i advise you to be more selective with your words in the future.

and yes, i would rather have a cookie cutter marina house. i have been there, though, admittedly, not since summer '09. and yes, i know the houses there all look pretty similar. however, that style of house is pretty unique, and you don't see them too many places elsewhere in the country. they're older, they have character. they're in an amazing location. meanwhile that second house, could be built in the suburbs of any city of any state. it's bland. it's just big, and that's not something i value too highly.

Quote from thikthird : thing is, your second sentence doesn't necessarrily qualify your first. it's like saying. "this hamburger sure is good. this hamburger doesn't look like a banana." it can still taste good or not taste good. a house that you claim is $5mil (which you did) may or may not look like a house that's $1mil. saying it doesn't look like it's $1mil doesn't preclude it from looking like it's $5mil. "it doesn't look like a million dollar house." could mean it looks like a $250,000 house or a $10,000,000 house or any other price, just not a $1mil house. perhaps you spoke poorly, and if so, i advise you to be more selective with your words in the future. and yes, i would rather have a cookie cutter marina house. i have been there, though, admittedly, not since summer '09. and yes, i know the houses there all look pretty similar. however, that style of house is pretty unique, and you don't see them too many places elsewhere in the country. they're older, they have character. they're in an amazing location. meanwhile that second house, could be built in the suburbs of any city of any state. it's bland. it's just big, and that's not something i value too highly.

The thing is. It does. I advise you to work on your reading comprehension. There's no shame in adult illiteracy. The shame is not rectifying it.

They are not unique. You'll see the same style buildings all over San Francisco and South San Francisco. You'll just pay a lot less for them in SSF or other parts of SF. Seeing a entire neighborhood fillled with apt buildings that look the same all jammed up right next to one another is not what I would call unique. It's not even unique to SF. There are places all over that look the same. It was a very common 1920's style.

It's quite clear that you don't know the history of the Marina and thus the history of those buildings and why they don't look like "million dollar houses". Because they weren't built for rich people. Quite the opposite. It's a recent change of events that made it into a affluent neighborhood.

Quote from travfar : The thing is. It does. I advise you to work on your reading comprehension. There's no shame in adult illiteracy. The shame is not rectifying it. They are not unique. You'll see the same style buildings all over San Francisco and South San Francisco. You'll just pay a lot less for them in SSF or other parts of SF. Seeing a entire neighborhood fillled with apt buildings that look the same all jammed up right next to one another is not what I would call unique. It's not even unique to SF. There are places all over that look the same. It was a very common 1920's style. It's quite clear that you don't know the history of the Marina and thus the history of those buildings and why they don't look like "million dollar houses". Because they weren't built for rich people. Quite the opposite. It's a recent change of events that made it into a affluent neighborhood.

wow, let's sling around insults and shift the argument further and further instead of you just copping to having used a poor choice of words.

did i say they were unique in the context of san fran? no, but they're pretty unique in terms of the rest of the country, and especially compared to that other house you posted.

i know the style of house you're referring to. you see a few of them here and there elsewhere but not nearly so common as in san fran.

no i don't know the history specifically of the marina. i do know enough about trends in the prices of urban neighborhoods though. i do know that a lot of urban historic neighborhoods are having the value of their houses go up, and that they originally weren't built for anything close to rich people. but they are going up in just about in any city. and those old historic homes are in most places looking like million dollar homes more and more.

all that is irrelevant and doesn't address your poor wording.

Quote from thikthird : wow, let's sling around insults and shift the argument further and further instead of you just copping to having used a poor choice of words. did i say they were unique in the context of san fran? no, but they're pretty unique in terms of the rest of the country, and especially compared to that other house you posted. i know the style of house you're referring to. you see a few of them here and there elsewhere but not nearly so common as in san fran. no i don't know the history specifically of the marina. i do know enough about trends in the prices of urban neighborhoods though. i do know that a lot of urban historic neighborhoods are having the value of their houses go up, and that they originally weren't built for anything close to rich people. but they are going up in just about in any city. and those old historic homes are in most places looking like million dollar homes more and more. all that is irrelevant and doesn't address your poor wording.

If you don't like being offered advice, then don't hand it out.

So they're "pretty unique in terms of the rest of the country" and "you see a few of them here and there elsewhere"? Hm.... unqiue yet you see them elsewhere. Anyways, that "other house" is pretty unique in SF. You know what they say about supply and demand.

I do agree this is all irrelevant and doesn't address your poor reading comprehension. Although on the brightside, the more your read the better you should get. Practice makes perfect.

Quote from travfar : If you don't like being offered advice, then don't hand it out. So they're "pretty unique in terms of the rest of the country" and "you see a few of them here and there elsewhere"? Hm.... unqiue yet you see them elsewhere. Anyways, that "other house" is pretty unique in SF. You know what they say about supply and demand. I do agree this is all irrelevant and doesn't address your poor reading comprehension. Although on the brightside, the more your read the better you should get. Practice makes perfect.

yes, they are pretty unique but can be seen elsewhere. perhaps you don't understand that "pretty" there is a qualifier. i'm not speaking in absolutes. such complexities (i hate using that term there, rather, i should say more complex than your understanding of nuance) apparently are lost on you.

and those other houses are pretter rare in just about any city. you don't see them until you get out until the suburbs.

Quote from thikthird : yes, they are pretty unique but can be seen elsewhere. perhaps you don't understand that "pretty" there is a qualifier. i'm not speaking in absolutes. such complexities (i hate using that term there, rather, i should say more complex than your understanding of nuance) apparently are lost on you. and those other houses are pretter rare in just about any city. you don't see them until you get out until the suburbs.

You said "unique" and then "you see a few of them here and there elsewhere".

Here's the definition of "unique".

"being the only one "

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/unique

As to your claim of a "qualifier". In your own words "it just didn't add anything to the context."

Here's some advice from someone who likes to banty it about. "perhaps you spoke poorly, and if so, i advise you to be more selective with your words in the future."

Seems the shoe is on the other foot.

Quote from travfar : You said "unique" and then "you see a few of them here and there elsewhere". Here's the definition of "unique". "being the only one " http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/unique As to your claim of a "qualifier". In your own words "it just didn't add anything to the context." Here's some advice from someone who likes to banty it about. "perhaps you spoke poorly, and if so, i advise you to be more selective with your words in the future." Seems the shoe is on the other foot.

do you know what a qualifier is in regards to grammar? it's a modifier that weakens the word it describes. "pretty" weakens "unique" as i used the terms above. you're just backing yourself further into a corner.

"Some what" would have been a better qualifier....