Toshiba Satellite L775D-S7340 Laptop (refurbished): Quad Core A6-3420M 1.4GHz, 17.3" LED (1600x900) Display, 6GB DDR3, 640GB HDD, HD 6520G, Blu-ray, WiFi N, HDMI, Webcam, 6-Cell Ba

Quote from max1001 : Most ppl have to pay taxes so the Lenovo becomes $436 for me. Further more, this is 17" and has bluray. 1 more thing, nerding raging over a thread on SD is just really really reallllyyyyy SAD.

I will say it again... since people like you DON'T GET IT....

An A8 plays games 25% FASTER... wait for an A8 DEAL!!! PERIOD!!!

And do you really need blueray? Let me answer this... only if you already have a blueray collections.

Quote from joshuaNH : I will say it again... since people like you DON'T GET IT.... An A8 plays games 25% FASTER... wait for an A8 DEAL!!! PERIOD!!! And do you really need blueray? Let me answer this... only if you already have a blueray collections.

The reality is you were called out for threadcrapping on a decent deal. You can't compare prices on a 15" vs 17" laptop, let alone declare the 15" a better deal just because you own it and it plays games "25% FASTER" ... you can now go back in your parents basement and play your games on your 15.4 "25% FASTER" laptop

Quote from joshuaNH : I will say it again... since people like you DON'T GET IT.... An A8 plays games 25% FASTER... wait for an A8 DEAL!!! PERIOD!!! And do you really need blueray? Let me answer this... only if you already have a blueray collections.

Because everyone getting this laptop is going to play game??????
Also, ur a8 is also 21 percent more expensive than this laptop. So 20% more for 25% increase in GAMES only but lacks blueray and have a smaller screen. I don't see how yoru deal is "better".

Quote from joshuaNH : I will say it again... since people like you DON'T GET IT.... An A8 plays games 25% FASTER... wait for an A8 DEAL!!! PERIOD!!! And do you really need blueray? Let me answer this... only if you already have a blueray collections.

I bought this for a friend who doesn't play games and is watching more media content in his laptop since he cut off his cable tv. An A8 processor does nothing more for him based on how he will use this machine. This is a great deal based on what he is looking for. Yes, it's not perfect for everyone but your thread crapping is not necessary.

Quote from joshuaNH : I will say it again... since people like you DON'T GET IT.... An A8 plays games 25% FASTER... wait for an A8 DEAL!!! PERIOD!!! And do you really need blueray? Let me answer this... only if you already have a blueray collections.

I have an A8 and it does not perform 25% better in games, maybe 5-10% depending on the game. This laptop is cheaper, has a bigger, better screen resolution, blu ray, is the newer 3420M chip, has 6gb of ram, and probably a larger hard drive than the one you bought. In fact the only downside to this laptop is it is a refurb but a squaretrade warranty should out someones mind at ease with this.

Also the A6 is a great APU, but people should really youtube kstat10 and download it so they can overclock for serious performance gains and/or underclock it for extended battery life. I really do not see how someone can say these are not good for gaming when they can run Skyrim, Deus Ex, Dead Island, LoL, Mass Effect 2 & 3, Kingdoms of Amalur, etc. on Medium to High settings with decent FPS of 30-60 from my experiences (in other words they can pump out graphics better than a 360 or PS3 can).

Quote from shady520 : I have an A8 and it does not perform 25% better in games, maybe 5-10% depending on the game. This laptop is cheaper, has a bigger, better screen resolution, blu ray, is the newer 3420M chip, has 6gb of ram, and probably a larger hard drive than the one you bought. In fact the only downside to this laptop is it is a refurb but a squaretrade warranty should out someones mind at ease with this. Also the A6 is a great APU, but people should really youtube kstat10 and download it so they can overclock for serious performance gains and/or underclock it for extended battery life. I really do not see how someone can say these are not good for gaming when they can run Skyrim, Deus Ex, Dead Island, LoL, Mass Effect 2 & 3, Kingdoms of Amalur, etc. on Medium to High settings with decent FPS of 30-60 from my experiences (in other words they can pump out graphics better than a 360 or PS3 can).

OK...
So Andatec states the AMD's A8-3850 up to 26% Faster than A6-3650.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/466...han-a63650

I know you have one and you think it is not that much faster because YOU FEEL THAT WAY... but it is.

AND you should NEVER OC a laptop, the cooling is not designed for it and you can overheat and ruin a chip on your mobo (such as the north or south bridge) and then your laptop becomes a paper weight. ALSO, when you OC a CPU you should also adjust the memory timing... and this is not OCable on a laptop such as this one.

Again... AN A8 PLAYS GAMES 25% FASTER THEN A A6.

Again, why are we buying a laptop with BD drive to play game?

Quote from joshuaNH : OK... So Andatec states the AMD's A8-3850 up to 26% Faster than A6-3650. http://www.anandtech.com/show/466...han-a63650 I know you have one and you think it is not that much faster because YOU FEEL THAT WAY... but it is. AND you should NEVER OC a laptop, the cooling is not designed for it and you can overheat and ruin a chip on your mobo (such as the north or south bridge) and then your laptop becomes a paper weight. ALSO, when you OC a CPU you should also adjust the memory timing... and this is not OCable on a laptop such as this one. Again... AN A8 PLAYS GAMES 25% FASTER THEN A A6.

Up to 26%, not is, most games are like a 5%-10% performance jump and that is from what I have seen of others using the A6 3400M compared to my A8 3500M. Not to mention these are laptop APU's and not the desktop processors which you linked to as the desktop processors have a bigger gap in performance than the laptop ones.

As for overclocking on these, you have tons of room for stable performance without added heat, and yes these laptops are made to deal with the heat as they are all ready overclocking themselves when demand is need. Sure someone could screw up there laptop just as someone can screw up a desktop by overclocking but using a bit of common sense to get a stable one can go a long ways. Also there is never a need to adjust the memory timings and nowadays it really does not help to mess with them as the performance gains are insignificant.

Again, it does not play games 25% faster, games that are more CPU intensive will only see the slightest jump (1 or 2 fps) and other games typically see a 5-10% performance boost.

I currently own and use this laptop. I think its great although its not for everybody. I'm in school and it works great for what I use it for. I don't have to move it much but when I do, it's relatively light for a 17 incher and fits in my big backpack. The processor is fast enough for what I do and the graphics are good enough to take a gaming break every now and again. The blu-ray drive is a good setup too. I don't have to buy a dedicated blu-ray player for my HDTV and I can just plug it into an HDTV when I'm at somebody else's apartment.

Quote from foxfai : Again, why are we buying a laptop with BD drive to play game?

Because some people want a machine that is really good and capable of a lot of things at a good price point. Maybe someone would like to have it as a desktop replacement, maybe someone will hook it up to their TV to watch blurays, maybe someone would rather take their laptop and a couple blurays on a trip rather than a DVD or download, etc.

Quote from dealmeister3000 : Thanks and repped. I'm going to keep an eye on that Lenovo site. I need a cheap travel laptop. I've been lugging around a clunker for years but I don't want to break the bank on something that is only going to be used occasionally.

Don't forget about HP's Envy 14" i5-2467M "Sleekbook" for $399. It costs a bit more, but it's pretty nearly an Ultrabook. I don't know if it's what you're going for, but at $399 (after $400 off coupon), those are getting to be worth the price premium for portability.

Quote from DarthSaver : http://compare-processors.com/cor...420m/2386/ In overall, the AMD’s A6-3420M is much better than the Intel’s Core i3-2350M You can overclock the crap out of these A6 and at this price point, there is no guilt.

I totally agree with overclocking these A6's. A lot of people won't do it. But I can guarantee you that anything I buy that can be overclocked will be.

Quote from DarthSaver : 17 inch with these specs? Bullshit.

I said earlier (but clearly you missed that post), that this is worth it if you're looking for a 17" and might be worth it sheerly because of the 1600x900 screen. Then I said, if you're not looking for a 17" though, then I think a $313 (15.6") i3 is better.

Quote from shady520 : Up to 26%, not is, most games are like a 5%-10% performance jump and that is from what I have seen of others using the A6 3400M compared to my A8 3500M. Not to mention these are laptop APU's and not the desktop processors which you linked to as the desktop processors have a bigger gap in performance than the laptop ones. As for overclocking on these, you have tons of room for stable performance without added heat, and yes these laptops are made to deal with the heat as they are all ready overclocking themselves when demand is need. Sure someone could screw up there laptop just as someone can screw up a desktop by overclocking but using a bit of common sense to get a stable one can go a long ways. Also there is never a need to adjust the memory timings and nowadays it really does not help to mess with them as the performance gains are insignificant. Again, it does not play games 25% faster, games that are more CPU intensive will only see the slightest jump (1 or 2 fps) and other games typically see a 5-10% performance boost.

OK... you are so WRONG that your FUNNY.

First off the laptops ARE NOT MADE TO DEAL WITH HEAT VERY WELL. That is why there is a whole industry selling LAPTOP COOLERS. The computer does not come OCed... the CPU has a turbo feature but that is WITHIN SPECS of the manufacture.

I have built my own Desktop... chose the MOBO, chose the RAM, etc... AND CHOSE THE HEATSINK AND FANS... You have NO CHOOSES when you buy a laptop. And if you fry a component... you can buy that component CHEAP... how much do you think a new mobo is for this laptop (I will guess... close to $250). Have you ever changed a mobo from a laptop... not as easy as a desktop.

And again... Andatec stated a 26% increase!!!

Quote from grayarea1122 : I'm trying to find an i3 2nd gen laptop and was wondering what the i3 for $313 you are referring to? If I found a laptop at that price for those specs, I would jump on it, but haven't seen anything close to that (although I haven't really been looking for long). Anyway, if you could please tell the brand of the laptop and where it was on sale at this price, I would greatly appreciate it. Also, do you know when there might be another sale at that price for the i3? Thanks!

Quote from The_Doug : The Lenovo Outlet has "Scratch & Dent" i3's on sale for $313 all the time. Their "Reburbished" and "Scratch & Dent" are essentially new according to what people on slickdeals say and they come with a 1 year warranty as if they're new. http://outlet.lenovo.com/laptops.html As of this posting, there is a B950 laptop for $266, but they have no cheap i3's in stock.

Quote from The_Doug : I said earlier (but clearly you missed that post), that this is worth it if you're looking for a 17" and might be worth it sheerly because of the 1600x900 screen. Then I said, if you're not looking for a 17" though, then I think a $313 (15.6") i3 is better.

No you didn't, you made it sound like the 17" Lenovo's were at that price when replying to grayarea and they aren't. That's why I said you never saw a 17" at that price. If you had clarified that you were talking about 15.6" in the first place, you wouldn't have heard a peep out of me.