Round 11, Shoplift at Wally World and you DIE!

Quote from Anonymouse : Human life has no value compared to that right of personal property for them. And it is that attitude to which I object and why I posted this thread.[/COLOR][/B]

So what about the personal property of an individual? Do you find it equally objectionable if someone shoots their would be carjacker or mugger?

Quote from LivninSC : So what about the personal property of an individual? Do you find it equally objectionable if someone shoots their would be carjacker or mugger?

i do.

Quote from thikthird : i do.

Please send me your address so I can come in and rob ya That question was to mouse and I wonder if he'll reply...

Quote from LivninSC : Please send me your address so I can come in and rob ya That question was to mouse and I wonder if he'll reply...

interesting, the only thing that stops you from going on a crime spree is the threat of reprecussions, as opposed to you being a genuinely decent person.

also, my apologies for intercepting your private message to mouse.

Quote from thikthird : interesting, the only thing that stops you from going on a crime spree is the threat of reprecussions, as opposed to you being a genuinely decent person.

Address please

your going to blame a huge corporation for the actions of a couple bad employees? the ones who are paid near-minimum wage? - why not just say all the people in XXX are criminals because you read about some guys who killed a guy who was doing something bad, and blame everyone who lives in XXX?

Quote from 124nic8 : How many have been proven to not be due to LEO/security guard mistakes?

not sure why you are lumping LEO and walmart's security guards together, as they are vastly different, but for starters the one where the robber runs out and gets hit by a car, the one where their wife shoots them for being a shoplifter, and the one where they commit suicide?

Quote from slapshot136 : your going to blame a huge corporation for the actions of a couple bad employees? the ones who are paid near-minimum wage? - why not just say all the people in XXX are criminals because you read about some guys who killed a guy who was doing something bad, and blame everyone who lives in XXX? not sure why you are lumping LEO and walmart's security guards together, as they are vastly different, but for starters the one where the robber runs out and gets hit by a car, the one where their wife shoots them for being a shoplifter, and the one where they commit suicide?

FYI - "the one where their wife shoots them for being a shoplifter" was my made up example to show how ridiculous blaming WM for the death when that kid was run over was.

In a way technically Walmart have no legal hold on some of the products they sell because they are a retail store who DISPLAY the products of the manufactuer.. In order to prove that someone stole from Walmart specifically, you must prove that the product the person took belong to Walmart actually belong to Walmart.. If Walmart have not yet paid the manufactuer or distributor in FULL, technically Walmart do not own the product in question and only it is still consider the property of the manufactuer or distributor who are the only ones who can file charges of theft.

And I'm am fairly certain many of the products on Walmart shelves are current on LOAN and have not been paid in full to the manufactuers or distributors for Walmart to claim complete ownership of the items in question

And that is why to the poster who think it is the same as robbery or mugging have no reasoning to stand on. The use of that arguement is basically useless

Quote from Ryu-bom : In a way technically Walmart have no legal hold on some of the products they sell because they are a retail store who DISPLAY the products of the manufactuer.. In order to prove that someone stole from Walmart specifically, you must prove that the product the person took belong to Walmart actually belong to Walmart.. If Walmart have not yet paid the manufactuer or distributor in FULL, technically Walmart do not own the product in question and only it is still consider the property of the manufactuer or distributor who are the only ones who can file charges of theft. And I'm am fairly certain many of the products on Walmart shelves are current on LOAN and have not been paid in full to the manufactuers or distributors for Walmart to claim complete ownership of the items in question And that is why to the poster who think it is the same as robbery or mugging have no reasoning to stand on. The use of that arguement is basically useless

One word response to this post: BS

Would it not be illegal to shoplift from Sears, Kmart, JC Penney or any other store?

Would it not be illegal to steal a car from a dealer's lot since they are financed through a "flooring" program?

Would it not be illegal for someone to steal a car or boat that the loan is not yet paid off?

Would it not be illegal for someone to break into a house that the mortgage is not yet paid off?

Go to WM and try your theory out and see how far you get with your "defense"...

When you get out of jail, let us know how it went.

Quote from nobama : One word response to this post: BS Would it not be illegal to shoplift from Sears, Kmart, JC Penney or any other store? Would it not be illegal to steal a car from a dealer's lot since they are financed through a "flooring" program? Would it not be illegal for someone to steal a car or boat that the loan is not yet paid off? Would it not be illegal for someone to break into a house that the mortgage is not yet paid off? Go to WM and try your theory out and see how far you get with your "defense"... When you get out of jail, let us know how it went.

Cause most people who shoplift are POOR

Too poor to afford a high powered attorney to challenge the charge on its legality of the way the law was written..
Im pretty sure with the right lawyer the notion of WM property/item stocks right can be challenged.

the only thing that Walmart technically owns are the money in its registars and the uniforms of its staff. Even the property/land it sits on isn't theirs if it is RENTED

Quote from nobama :

Why do you even respond to him? If nobody did perhaps he'd finally get the hint and go spout his nonsense on some other board... Now that would be a great day

Quote from LivninSC : Why do you even respond to him? If nobody did perhaps he'd finally get the hint and go spout his nonsense on some other board... Now that would be a great day

You, sir, have a very valid point.

Quote from LivninSC : FYI - "the one where their wife shoots them for being a shoplifter" was my made up example to show how ridiculous blaming WM for the death when that kid was run over was.

it seems just as reasonable as some of the others here.. why not include it in the count?

Quote from slapshot136 : it seems just as reasonable as some of the others here.. why not include it in the count?

Are we talking about the guy who was murdered by his wife after he got home from shoplifting? If yes it can't be included because it's not real. I made it up to illustrate a point.

Is this the post to which you're referring? Because I totally made the 12-7-08 example up.

Quote from LivninSC : Is there something news worth here? "Simply execute shoplifters"? LOL This is my favorite. 12-6-06 Wal Mart Fort Worth, TX Shoplifting Teen Flees, Hit by Car, Dies How the F is it WalMart's fault that someone gets hit by a car outside of their store and dies :roflmao: You missed the one on 12-7-08 where a man shop lifted from WalMart, drove home, and was then shot by his wife because she found out he was cheating on her. Clearly WalMart is at fauly there!

If you're talking about the teen who shoplifted, fled, and was killed by a car as he fled I don't see how you can pin that on WM. It's not like one of the Walton's was behind the wheel.

Or are we on the same side saying they're both ridiculous, along with some of the others? I am not trying to be difficult,I just don't know.