Charles Tyrwhitt, 2 shirts shipped for $70 **New Lower Price**

Quote from brokencycle : Have you tried their new tailored fit? They're another couple inches more trim. Like I said though, I gave up on trying to find a good off the rack fit, but CT is pretty decent. I find their slim fits too short though, and I hate the lack of a gauntlet button.

gauntlet button seems like it would be a pretty easy/inexpensive thing for a tailor, or to do at home if you've got the skills

How slim are their slim fits? I am 5'9 and about 155lbs and most of the slim fits aren't really slim fits for me.

Euros so of course no button down collars. haha.

which one of these would be comprable to the bb slim fit?

... aaaand nothing at my price point. out.

urlhasbeenblocked has 7% cb to make this deal even sweeter

Quote from jk147 : How slim are their slim fits? I am 5'9 and about 155lbs and most of the slim fits aren't really slim fits for me.

Find a shirt in the closet that fits well, measure it and compare
http://www.ctshirts.com/Formal-sh...ing-guides

note the classic, slim and tailored fits

Quote from ilovedonuts : material construction you really think that the quality of a garment boils is unquantifiable and comes down to personal opinion?

I was simply asking a question. I've read everyone praising these shirts and how much better they are than competitors yet nobody has provided solid evidence beyond that of an opinion.

So material and construction eh? Is 100% cotton the best? Is it better than a cotton/polyester mix? What makes this material better than others? Which country produces the highest quality shirts? What are the deciding factors? What makes a shirt produced in Indonesia better than one produced in China? A complete sentence would be a nice way to answer any of these questions.

Quote from BeckhamsTears : Find a shirt in the closet that fits well, measure it and compare http://www.ctshirts.com/Formal-sh...ing-guides note the classic, slim and tailored fits

I'm 5'7", 165, and tailored works well for me. I have a slim and a regular.. slim worked fairly well, and the regular felt like a blanket. (I had to get it tailored).

Quote from fastcore666 : I was simply asking a question. I've read everyone praising these shirts and how much better they are than competitors yet nobody has provided solid evidence beyond that of an opinion. So material and construction eh? Is 100% cotton the best? Is it better than a cotton/polyester mix? What makes this material better than others? Which country produces the highest quality shirts? What are the deciding factors? What makes a shirt produced in Indonesia better than one produced in China? A complete sentence would be a nice way to answer any of these questions.

Quality of the cotton is terrific.
Collars are THICK, ie they hold their shape...big quality point here. Compare it to a department store collar and you'll understand.
Fit: tailored fit fits me like a glove. I'm 6'2" 175 and most shirts are like boxes on me. These look GOOD.
Brass collar stays instead of cheapo plastic.
etc...

Once you own nice clothing, you get it. If you are used to 19.99 sale department store button downs, you don't know what you are missing. (Or how ridiculous you look)

Quote from SixMileDrive : Quality of the cotton is terrific. Collars are THICK, ie they hold their shape...big quality point here. Compare it to a department store collar and you'll understand. Fit: tailored fit fits me like a glove. I'm 6'2" 175 and most shirts are like boxes on me. These look GOOD. Brass collar stays instead of cheapo plastic. etc... Once you own nice clothing, you get it. If you are used to 19.99 sale department store button downs, you don't know what you are missing. (Or how ridiculous you look)

Thank you for answering my questions. Unfortunately, I am unable to tell the difference between a $50 button down and a $14.99 one from JC Penny. Both look and feel exactly the same to me. Oh well, I only wear these to work. Thank goodness I am judged by the quality of my work and not my sense of fashion.

Sorry to break it to you guys, but mass produced shirts cater to the general Fat public.

Regular Fit = If you are obese
Slim Fit = If you are fat
Tailored Fit = If you are not fat

Athletic build, slim, or have a six-pack waist = Try a different (better) brand or get the shirt tapered at a tailor.

lol...modern men.

would our fathers be having this argument?

I have bought $15 slim, 100% cotton, non-iron shirts from KOHLS (croft&barrow) and I'd say they're just as good as the CT I got with the free tie.

where do you think these CT shirts are made? UK? HA! they use the same sweatshop countries any other clothier would use, same cheap cotton, same scotchguard.

p.s. and that was pocket included.

Quote from jk147 : How slim are their slim fits? I am 5'9 and about 155lbs and most of the slim fits aren't really slim fits for me.

I don't find them very slim at all, not even the tailored fit line. You have the same issue like me with most mass-produced shirts.

If people tell you these shirts are slim, they are either have some junk in the trunk or dress very sloppy (excess fabric hanging on sleeves or waist).

Quote from slicklurkn : lol...modern men. would our fathers be having this argument? I have bought $15 slim, 100% cotton, non-iron shirts from KOHLS (croft&barrow) and I'd say they're just as good as the CT I got with the free tie. where do you think these CT shirts are made? UK? HA! they use the same sweatshop countries any other clothier would use, same cheap cotton, same scotchguard. p.s. and that was pocket included.

Having owned a Croft&Barrow shirt from Kohls, I can say for me the additional $20 for a CT shirt is well worth it for me. To each his own.

p.s. and I wasn't stuck with a pocket on my shirt

Quote from fastcore666 : What makes one shirt "vastly superior" to others? Personal opinion?

So there are numerous things.

I won't go into great detail, but here goes.

TL;DR version: Businesses try to make money. On cheap shirts (anything that is regularly less than $50), they must make as many as they can as cheaply as possible to make as much profit as they can. Higher quality shirts, manufacturers don't need to cut as many corners, but make a higher margin,

In this case, while the "regular price" here is BS, the $35/shirt for a CT shirt is a great deal. They normally are about $50-60/shirt. As others have said, you get a level of shirt better than JAB and about the same as BB, but for less than either.

Fabric
There are certainly better fabrics than others. First there is the "super number" which dictates how many yards are in one pound (it is not thread count like sheets). The higher the number, typically the higher quality as they make finer thread.

Quality fabric is a 2 ply means that there are two yarns woven together to make the thread, which also generally indicates a better shirt.

Construction

Single needle tailoring is better than twin needling, because with a twin needle construction, seams are made in one pass of the sewing machine with two needles running in parallel. Typically this results in low quality, quickly made shirts that are more prone to falling apart. This also leads to more "puckering" along the seams.

On higher end shirts, buttons will be sewn by hand because they will hold better and generally can be made to look nicer. Additionally, curved seams like the armhole are sewn by hand, because to get a consistent quality curved seam with a sewing machine is very difficult.

Other caveats

Higher quality shirts have little details that also improved their quality. Things like reinforced gussets (the bottom where the two sides meet). They sometimes (most often in very high quality shirts) have mother of pearl buttons rather than plastic buttons. They also have better shaped and made collars (with higher quality inner-lining materials in the collar).

Also patterns that the shirts are made to, are generally better because they can be made to more accurately reflect the human body (and often have different fits) rather than a pattern to use the least amount of fabric as possible.