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Quote from clearanceman : Ok, believe what you want. If you want to believe that human emission of a trace element is powerful enough to raise the temperature of the entire earth when natural sources many times greater didn't do it, you go right ahead.

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Quote from clearanceman : Ok, believe what you want. If you want to believe that human emission of a trace element is powerful enough to raise the temperature of the entire earth when natural sources many times greater didn't do it, you go right ahead.

Can you point us to some scientific article that show this fact? Like compare natural sources with daily cars/power stations/factories, etc daily emission which show many times greater emission every day or every year for the last couple hundred years? I hope this is not a statement based on guessing.

Quote from MozartA : Can you point us to some scientific article that show this fact? Like compare natural sources with daily cars/power stations/factories, etc daily emission which show many times greater emission every day or every year for the last couple hundred years? I hope this is not a statement based on guessing.

You're only talking about thousandths of one percent carbon dioxide. Carbon dioxide is a trace element that is hardly present in the atmosphere at all. One big volcano puts out more than we can put out in a whole year. Besides, I just read on Yahoo that the states with the biggest average temperature gain are up about 3-4 tenths of one degree (like .342) since the early 1900s. There is easily that much error in the sampling over that period of time. We're talking about decades with no computers, temps were measured by eye and not digitally.

And there are large locality differences in the measurements, some states are up more than others. And presumably that would be a combination of man made and natural sources. Take out the measurement error and the natural causes and it leaves nothing at all.

And it doesn't even break down any possible man made sources, like carbon dioxide vs. methane vs. whatever. They are saying the combination of all sources manmade and natural over the last 100 years is at most in the united states three tenths of one degree.

So the people counting tons of carbon dioxide are full of it. Even if there is an increase in temperature globally, and I'm not sure even that is true, it's very small and of unknown cause.

Quote from clearanceman : You're only talking about thousandths of one percent carbon dioxide. Carbon dioxide is a trace element that is hardly present in the atmosphere at all. One big volcano puts out more than we can put out in a whole year. Besides, I just read on Yahoo that the states with the biggest average temperature gain are up about 3-4 tenths of one degree (like .342) since the early 1900s. There is easily that much error in the sampling over that period of time. We're talking about decades with no computers, temps were measured by eye and not digitally. And there are large locality differences in the measurements, some states are up more than others. And presumably that would be a combination of man made and natural sources. Take out the measurement error and the natural causes and it leaves nothing at all. And it doesn't even break down any possible man made sources, like carbon dioxide vs. methane vs. whatever. They are saying the combination of all sources manmade and natural over the last 100 years is at most in the united states three tenths of one degree. So the people counting tons of carbon dioxide are full of it. Even if there is an increase in temperature globally, and I'm not sure even that is true, it's very small and of unknown cause.

Some cancer patients come up with elaborate reasons why they don't actually have cancer and how it's not real or whatever. That's basically what you're doing. Expect basically the people funding the misinformation campaign are mostly older, rich people who won't be around to have to deal with the ramifications of their actions/inactions. In a survey of ppl in New Orleans most of them don't even know where the evac shelters are, even after their city was destroyed once. The citizens of Pompeii ignored repeated warnings that the volcano was going to erupt. Actually that's not wholly true. Some of them were smart enough to bail and weren't engulfed in lava. At the time, they observed animals acting strangely and fleeing since they all knew something was up, but the people were willfully ignorant. Likewise, for global warming people observe all the signs that can easily be ignored by people who simply don't want to believe it. But believing or not believing in something doesn't change the likelihood of it happening. The science says warming is happening and that's the conclusion formed repeatedly by any legit scientific study that's not funded by right-wing deniers.

Also, yahoo answers is not a legitimate source of scientific information.

I got the wired subscription, but how can I get access to the digital subscription for my iPad without having been sent my first issue? I don't have the account number. Please help

Quote from devinbriggs : I got the wired subscription, but how can I get access to the digital subscription for my iPad without having been sent my first issue? I don't have the account number. Please help

You have to wait for the first issue.

Quote from compguy : You have to wait for the first issue.

Dang it.
Well thanks for the help!

Quote from devinbriggs : Dang it. Well thanks for the help!

NP, once you get your first issue you need to create an account on wired.com (in browser) with your account number, then download the app on your ipad, then sign-in with the account you created.

Quote from compguy : Some cancer patients come up with elaborate reasons why they don't actually have cancer and how it's not real or whatever. That's basically what you're doing. Expect basically the people funding the misinformation campaign are mostly older, rich people who won't be around to have to deal with the ramifications of their actions/inactions. In a survey of ppl in New Orleans most of them don't even know where the evac shelters are, even after their city was destroyed once. The citizens of Pompeii ignored repeated warnings that the volcano was going to erupt. Actually that's not wholly true. Some of them were smart enough to bail and weren't engulfed in lava. At the time, they observed animals acting strangely and fleeing since they all knew something was up, but the people were willfully ignorant. Likewise, for global warming people observe all the signs that can easily be ignored by people who simply don't want to believe it. But believing or not believing in something doesn't change the likelihood of it happening. The science says warming is happening and that's the conclusion formed repeatedly by any legit scientific study that's not funded by right-wing deniers. Also, yahoo answers is not a legitimate source of scientific information.

"deniers" LOL, like I said religion. Believe whatever you what. Time will show what is really going on and who is exploiting the situation for profit.

BTW, it was a story on yahoo news not yahoo answers.

Quote from compguy : NP, once you get your first issue you need to create an account on wired.com (in browser) with your account number, then download the app on your ipad, then sign-in with the account you created.

Dang it no app to read it on my Note

You know I appreciate a good deal as much as the next guy, but why do I need to wait until September for issues to start arriving?

Careful these are all done by a shaddy company. For example, when i joined mens health i was sent 3 books that if i didnt return they would assume i wanted them and charge me around 60 bucks. I was forced to send back the books and they even then tried to claim i didnt send them in time. Just a horrible company which sucks because i use to enjoy popular science and mens healths, but with tactics like that I will never read them again.

Quote from compguy : NP, once you get your first issue you need to create an account on wired.com (in browser) with your account number, then download the app on your ipad, then sign-in with the account you created.

answered my question since i was trying to figure out the same thing

in for PS 4 years and for Wired 3 years

paid = $35 for all of it SWEEEET!!!!

hmmm.... these are great gifts as well