No no no honda!!! Please tell me there's more to the 2013 accord!!!

Quote from setsail : After I hit enter I went because I forgot about the transmitters. My mind is definitely elsewhere right now.

You are 9 mos pregnant! Definitely excused!

The dash looks similar to a Prius, don't know where you're gettings 90s from...

Interior looks fugly. Not sure about the exterior but hope it's not as fugly as the Acuras.

Quote from marg_fan : I don't know much about the Accord line but if that was a Civic, they are trolling someone. You cannot get a Civic EX sedan with a manual transmission, let alone a nav system. A quick check of Honda's website indicates a similar lack of options with a manual transmission. No option for a nav system in an EX sedan if you want a manual transmission. They be trolling.

I think the Accord Coupe has option for nav with 6 speed manual.

Hondas are overpriced anyway. Get a Toyota if your heart is set on a practical and reliable Jap car.

Quote from 420 : Hondas are overpriced anyway. Get a Toyota if your heart is set on a practical and reliable Jap car.

I'm looking for a reliable car from North Korea. Any suggestions? Kia and Hyundai are South Korean.

Quote from Hawk2007 : I'm looking for a reliable car from North Korea. Any suggestions? Kia and Hyundai are South Korean.

I think the Nissan Altima 2013 looks good.

We just got a 2012 Accord Coupe. Thing is a sexy beast. I thinking it was a complete waste of $30k to be honest (got the stupid $2k navigation system..NOT my choice).

It feels dated though. Screw Honda. $30k and it doesn't even have bluetooth a2dp. Apparently...that's reserved for their Acura line. Go fark yourself Honda.

EDIT: For the record..I still think the sedan looks ugly as sin. For 2012 anyway it looks old and dated. Only the coupe looks gorgeous.

Quote from dzap : We just got a 2012 Accord Coupe. Thing is a sexy beast. I thinking it was a complete waste of $30k to be honest (got the stupid $2k navigation system..NOT my choice). It feels dated though. Screw Honda. $30k and it doesn't even have bluetooth a2dp. Apparently...that's reserved for their Acura line. Go fark yourself Honda.

I think this is what's upsetting me most about Honda. They're falling way behind on the comfort and convenience features. I know they're doing this partially to save features for the Acura line, but they're holding back way too much, especially considering what Toyota and Nissan are including in the Camry and Altima. The Lexus and Infiniti lines don't seem to be hurting too much despite the extra features being included in these cars.

This wasn't the case nine years ago when I started shopping for a new car. I looked seriously at both the Camry and Accord. The Camry, while nice, felt a bit bland and boring to me. When I went to test drive the Accord, everything about it felt more high-tech to me. When that awesome dashboard lit up when I put the key in, I was sold. Oh, not to mention it drove well too. (And the fact that the Honda dealer quoted me a price almost $5,000 less than the Toyota dealer for a comparably equipped vehicle sure helped.)

I drove an '09 Accord for a day as a loaner, and it felt much cheaper than my '04. The materials seemed lower quality, and the dashboard, while similar in appearance, did not have the same quality of backlighting as my '04. (I still love how the dashboard in my car lights up from almost totally dark to super bright when you insert the key. The dashboard in the '08-'12 gen does not start out dark, and the backlighting is not as bright and sharp.)

Honda better get in the game. Real quick. That 2013 Altima is real purdy, inside and out. Based on the pictures show of the '13 Accord so far, this isn't going to be much of a contest.

Truth be told, it's just the cost pressure and the exchange rate finally catching up with the Japanese auto manufacturers. It's happening to KIA and Hyundai now too.

It's fun to see the economic imbalance finally starting to wreak havoc on them.

Quote from Maleficent : When I was shopping for my Ford Focus, they have a feature where if you just have your key in your purse/pocket as you walk up to the car, it automatically unlocks because of the proximity. I didn't have that feature on the model I ended up buying, but I thought it was pretty awesome. Maybe it has something like that?

I guess that might seem to be a neat feature for the truly lazy. Probably costs a lot for this option too.

Quote from zhelder : It may be a little too early to tell for sure, but as I feared, it looks like Honda might indeed be dropping the ball with the 2013 Accord. Automobile magazine has posted spy shots of the interior, and I'm not thrilled with what I'm seeing. 2013 Accord Spy Shots [automobilemag.com] - The dashboard (which is beautiful in my '04 Accord) looks like a late 90s GM dashboard: cheap and gaudy. - The center display in the middle of the spedometer looks like a plain, boring, circa 2000 normal digital display. No computerized display with graphics? Really?!? And, maybe it's the light in the picture, but are those numbers in the display ORANGE?!? - Is that a KEY I see? Really? The Altima and Camry introduced push button start/keyless entry years ago. What's the holdup with getting it into the Accord? Well, at least the graphics on the navi/audio screen look like they've gotten a pretty good update, and Pandora is included. But unless this was a no frills model and Honda has some tricks up their sleeves for some higher-end models, things aren't looking too good. Nissan got it right with the 2013 Altima. Camry's 2012 remodel was less revolutionary, but still decent. It looks like Honda's going to be falling behind with the 2013 Accord.

Quote from Iaaaiws : It's just one of those fads that come around over time as things change and people see it as "new and improved". Automobiles had push button start back at least in the 30's and 40's and then someone came up with the idea to have the starter hooked to the key switch for convenience. Now that idea has played out so someone decided to revive the push button.

My 73 VW bus has an aftermarket push-button start

Quote from zzyzzx : I guess that might seem to be a neat feature for the truly lazy. Probably costs a lot for this option too.

I don't like it. Less secure, and one more thing to troubleshoot when the car won't start.
And I'm lazy.

Quote from zzyzzx : I guess that might seem to be a neat feature for the truly lazy. Probably costs a lot for this option too.

I just said that I thought it was cool technology. Clearly you don't ever travel with pets or kids.

And I doubt it costs all that much. I'm sure it comes in one of their packages that have dozens of really cool features for a few hundred bucks.

Quote from Frogstar : I don't like it. Less secure, and one more thing to troubleshoot when the car won't start. And I'm lazy.

What makes it less secure? You still have to have the key to get into the car.

Quote from Maleficent : And I doubt it costs all that much. I'm sure it comes in one of their packages that have dozens of really cool features for a few hundred bucks.

I just wish you could add individual options like that without having to spend a bunch of money on a package or crap you don't want. I would really have liked to have the heated mirrors on my Escape but it would have meant having to buy a bunch of other stuff I didn't really want or need.

For example, the Escape is available with a hands-free rear liftgate where you just have to wave your foot under the rear bumper and it opens by itself. To get that you have to spend $1895 for the package that includes it.