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Laptop comparison help? Toshiba vs Lenovo

thejas 1,402 572 July 5, 2012 at 01:58 PM
Hey all,

Would you PLEASE give me feedback on these two? Ive looked at so many laptops and specs at this point Im really brain froze. Maybe neither of them are a great deal? ...if so please tell me that too! My max price I wanted to hit was $550. Both of these are over but I thought maybe worth it? Very happy to reps for feedback and suggestions! My main intent at upgrading is using photoshop better.

1. Toshiba Satellite P755-S5390 Laptop $629

Processor*
Intel® Core™ i7-2670QM processor
Operating System*
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit), SP1
Graphics Engine*
Mobile Intel® HD Graphics
Graphics Memory*
64MB-1696MB dynamically allocated shared graphics memory
Memory*
6GB DDR3 1333MHz memory
Hard Drive*
640GB HDD (5400rpm, Serial ATA)
Optical Drive*
DVD-SuperMulti (+/-R double layer) with Labelflash™ drive
Display Size
15.6" widescreen
Display Type*
HD TruBrite® LED Backlit display with Intel® Wireless Display Technology
Display Resolution
Supports 720p content, 16:9 aspect ratio, 1366x768 (HD)
Audio
Headphone jack (stereo), Microphone jack (mono), Waves MaxxAudio® 3, harman/kardon® stereo speakers

2. Lenovo Ideapad Z580-2151 $599

Laptop Operating System Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Laptop Network Card 802.11 n
Laptop Display Type HD LED-backlit
Laptop Memory Expandable N/A
CPU Cache 3MB L3
Laptop Processor Speed 2.5GHz
Laptop Processor Type Intel Core i5-3210M
Laptop Optical Drive Integrated DVDR/RW
Laptop Memory Type DDR3
Laptop Memory RAM 8GB
Laptop Hard Drive Capacity 750GB
Bluetooth Compatibility Yes
Laptop Webcam .3M Webcam
Laptop Audio Integrated Stereo Speakers with Dolby Home Theatre V4
Media Card Reader 5 in 1 Media Card Reader
Video Graphics Memory N/A
Laptop Hard Drive Speed 5400RPM
Laptop Extra Features VeriFace Facial Recognition Technology
Laptop USB Slots 2 x USB 3.0, 2 x USB 2.0
Laptop Warranty 1 Year
Laptop Video Graphics Intel Integrated HD 3000 Graphics
Laptop Hard Drive Type SATA

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The Toshiba has almost double the processor power and if there's nothing that you dislike about it, then it's clearly worth the extra 30 bux.
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The Toshiba has almost double the processor power and if there's nothing that you dislike about it, then it's clearly worth the extra 30 bux.
Thank You!

Questions back for you?

Is the $629 a reasonable price for these specs? Should I be looking for a better computer in this price range?

Toshiba has a bit less memory, will that make a big difference?

Toshiba also has a bit less HD space, but Im ok with that, have other drives.
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Thank You!

Questions back for you?

Is the $629 a reasonable price for these specs? Should I be looking for a better computer in this price range?

Toshiba has a bit less memory, will that make a big difference?

Toshiba also has a bit less HD space, but Im ok with that, have other drives.
The ram differenjce wouldn't matter to 99% of the population but there are certain heavy games and programs that can actually use all that ram.
It would help to know what you want in a machine, like are you an avid gamer?
Do you do actual work on it and if so, what?
BTW: I don't have a particular model in mind right now, but I would find a laptop with a faster hard drive or I would replace the existing one to a 7200 rpm model, at the very least.
I use SSD's in all my machines, laptops included, but they are small and if you need to store a ton of data like movies and music, the SSD is somewhat out of the question for pricing reasons.
I'll take a quick look around to see if I find something that I consider as good or better than the two you're looking at, but of course, our tastes may differ.
Any info you can give me/us will help in finding you the best deal or confirming one of your choices above.
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I agree the processor on the Toshiba is significantly more powerful. However know that the screen resolution of 1366x768 is pretty low, especially for work in photoshop. An SSD would be a good upgrade to this machine if you want more speed.
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CPU comparison
http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/...670QM.html

The i7 literally blows away the i5 - quad core plus double the cache in all levels - L1, L2, L3.

RAM is significant - my desktop doesn't run any server - just a lot of browser, word processing and watching videos. I have 4GB maxed out plus 2GB of SWAP used at all times.

Larger HDD in Lenovo implies more space for you if this is your primary computer.

The Toshiba doesn't seem to mention a webcam - that might be significant for you.

Harmon speakers sound nicer to me - but that is a matter of choice. You might not care for sound quality at all if you use headphones primarily.

Lenovo has USB 3 slots which will give you faster data transfer in the years to come - useful when you do a full hard disk backup.
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The ram differenjce wouldn't matter to 99% of the population but there are certain heavy games and programs that can actually use all that ram.
It would help to know what you want in a machine, like are you an avid gamer?
Do you do actual work on it and if so, what?
BTW: I don't have a particular model in mind right now, but I would find a laptop with a faster hard drive or I would replace the existing one to a 7200 rpm model, at the very least.
I use SSD's in all my machines, laptops included, but they are small and if you need to store a ton of data like movies and music, the SSD is somewhat out of the question for pricing reasons.
I'll take a quick look around to see if I find something that I consider as good or better than the two you're looking at, but of course, our tastes may differ.
Any info you can give me/us will help in finding you the best deal or confirming one of your choices above.
Thanks! I currently was using a very sad 320g hd, 3g memory, and I think dual core processor so anything is obviously an upgrade.
Other than internet and basic office documents (no huge excels) my biggest use is photoshop and graphics. I have lots of files that alter photos and such, fonts ect on high resolution projects, use lots of layers... and the program gets badly bogged down. At times not just the program but entire system. It drives me mad sitting and waiting. I either need it to go faster, or at least multi-task other things.

I do need a considerable amount of storage. I do have a couple external drives to use as well as for backup. I have one master set of photos and graphics that takes up an entire 1TB backup drive. I hate to think if I ever lost that!

I do have a secondary program (I dont think it takes up much memory) that I do try to run at times along with it but many times - frustrating results!

I need a laptop vs desktop. Ive been down hard a couple years now with multiple surgeries and medical problems that kicked my butt all once. Im finally getting up and going but still at times need to be able to use while down. A tablet may make more sense being portable but -learning photoshop one handed in bed kept my sanity! :-)
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Thanks! I currently was using a very sad 320g hd, 3g memory, and I think dual core processor so anything is obviously an upgrade.
Other than internet and basic office documents (no huge excels) my biggest use is photoshop and graphics. I have lots of files that alter photos and such, fonts ect on high resolution projects, use lots of layers... and the program gets badly bogged down. At times not just the program but entire system. It drives me mad sitting and waiting. I either need it to go faster, or at least multi-task other things.

I do need a considerable amount of storage. I do have a couple external drives to use as well as for backup. I have one master set of photos and graphics that takes up an entire 1TB backup drive. I hate to think if I ever lost that!

I do have a secondary program (I dont think it takes up much memory) that I do try to run at times along with it but many times - frustrating results!

I need a laptop vs desktop. Ive been down hard a couple years now with multiple surgeries and medical problems that kicked my butt all once. Im finally getting up and going but still at times need to be able to use while down. A tablet may make more sense being portable but -learning photoshop one handed in bed kept my sanity! :-)
Photoshop is a ram hog and you would definitely benefit by having 8 gigs, but on the other hand, in the comparison of the two machines above, I would still take the i7 and if the ram weren't enough, I would bump it up a bit, as ram is so cheap nowadays.
The power difference between those two processors is enormous and I wouldn't pass it up for the sake of 2 more gigs of ram.
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I agree the processor on the Toshiba is significantly more powerful. However know that the screen resolution of 1366x768 is pretty low, especially for work in photoshop. An SSD would be a good upgrade to this machine if you want more speed.

Im VERY limited on knowledge of the different drives. I assume I could replace out, I would put my mechanical skills at a 7/10 on desktops. Tablet knowledge far less.

You are very right on the resolution, that does make a big difference to me!


Does the Toshiba sound like a reasonable price for what it offers?
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Im VERY limited on knowledge of the different drives. I assume I could replace out, I would put my mechanical skills at a 7/10 on desktops. Tablet knowledge far less.

You are very right on the resolution, that does make a big difference to me!
Well these are laptops, not tablets (I am thinking Tablets like ipad, touchpad, etc) so its not that much different. On most laptops its just a few screws to replace the hard drive. Pretty easy. If you rate yourself as a 7/10 then I don't think you would have any troubles.
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Well these are laptops, not tablets (I am thinking Tablets like ipad, touchpad, etc) so its not that much different. On most laptops its just a few screws to replace the hard drive. Pretty easy. If you rate yourself as a 7/10 then I don't think you would have any troubles.

You are right, my bad. Meant laptops not tablets! I do ASSUME I could figure out laptops, not sure why they intimidate me so much more.
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Changing a laptop hard drive is a snap and arguably easier than changing a desktop model that is often less accesible. The point is that there is nothing to worry about, but there is a financial consideration here.
If you are fairly determined to get a faster hard drive than the ones supplied in those models, it'll up the price and it may be advantageous to spend more for one that already includes the faster drive.
Again, I don't have one in mind, but it's something to think about.
BTW: It is my understanding that Photoshop can also benefit from high powered graphics, and if that's the case, it might affect your choices.
LiquidRetro may know how much advantage you'd get from a laptop with a dedicated graphics card, for doing Photoshop work.
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Changing a laptop hard drive is a snap and arguably easier than changing a desktop model that is often less accesible. The point is that there is nothing to worry about, but there is a financial consideration here.
If you are fairly determined to get a faster hard drive than the ones supplied in those models, it'll up the price and it may be advantageous to spend more for one that already includes the faster drive.
Again, I don't have one in mind, but it's something to think about.
BTW: It is my understanding that Photoshop can also benefit from high powered graphics, and if that's the case, it might affect your choices.
LiquidRetro may know how much advantage you'd get from a laptop with a dedicated graphics card, for doing Photoshop work.
Sounds like more to think on and research before buying! Thanks for the input, Im gonna look more! I just have to decide soon, the laptop I mentioned above finally gave up just as I coaxed last files from it. I sure got my money worth out of it though may it RIP worship
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This [tigerdirect.com] is what I would go for, from the getgo.
There's no way I'm going to spend years on a laptop that doesn't quite satisfy me.
I'd spend more at the point of purcahse and get everything I want, the i7 power, the needed 8 gigs of ram, a big fast hard drive (750 gig 7200 rpm drive) a decent graphics card, fantastic build, great looks, the best laptop sound on the market.
By the time you dress up the cheapest i7 laptop to have a big fast hard drive, the required 8 gigs of ram and a dedicated 1 gig graphics card, you might find yourself spending $850 for a plastic ugly machine.
I know that $1k can buy a lot of bananas and I don't make a habit of suggesting that people should spend more on their laptops, but in your case, you'd be close to the Dell XPS pricing if you get everything you need in a cheaper style machine, and the Dell XPS with it's beautiful and solid aluminum build, is a sight to see, not to mention how much tougher it would be, and the incredible sound that comes out of it, makes it a bit of a masterpiece.

PS: This [tigerdirect.com] one is also $1k but it has the hi def 1920 X 1080 screen.

And this one [amazon.com] for $900, with 6 gigs of ram and the regular screen.
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This [tigerdirect.com] is what I would go for, from the getgo.
There's no way I'm going to spend years on a laptop that doesn't quite satisfy me.
I'd spend more at the point of purcahse and get everything I want, the i7 power, the needed 8 gigs of ram, a big fast hard drive (750 gig 7200 rpm drive) a decent graphics card, fantastic build, great looks, the best laptop sound on the market.
By the time you dress up the cheapest i7 laptop to have a big fast hard drive, the required 8 gigs of ram and a dedicated 1 gig graphics card, you might find yourself spending $850 for a plastic ugly machine.
I know that $1k can buy a lot of bananas and I don't make a habit of suggesting that people should spend more on their laptops, but in your case, you'd be close to the Dell XPS pricing if you get everything you need in a cheaper style machine, and the Dell XPS with it's beautiful and solid aluminum build, is a sight to see, not to mention how much tougher it would be, and the incredible sound that comes out of it, makes it a bit of a masterpiece.

PS: This [tigerdirect.com] one is also $1k but it has the hi def 1920 X 1080 screen.

And this one [amazon.com] for $900, with 6 gigs of ram and the regular screen.


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That alotta pictures / graphics Id have to do to justify but boy such fun!
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