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Samsung vs. Apple - Verdict has come down..

18,929 670 August 24, 2012 at 04:17 PM
http://gizmodo.com/5937762/samsun...g-updating

Samsung got wrecked:

* Jury finds Samsung infringement of Apple utility, design patents for some (though not all) products
* Jury upholds Apple utility, design patents
* Jury upholds Apple trade dress '983
* Jury finds Samsung "diluted" Apple's registered iPhone, iPhone 3 and "Combination iPhone" trade dress on some products, not on others
* No Apple infringement of Samsung utility patents
* Jury found Samsung violated antitrust law by monopolizing markets related to the UMTS standard

Damages owed by Samsung:
* $2.3 billion and counting

(Full disclosure: above info stolen from live.cnet.com/Event/Apple_vs_Samsung_verdict)
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08-24-2012 at 04:23 PM.
08-24-2012 at 04:23 PM.
I hope someone makes an octagonal phone with dials and levers instead of buttons and everybody buys it just to spite... someone.
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08-24-2012 at 04:25 PM.
08-24-2012 at 04:25 PM.
OUCH.....real bad day for Sammy. Thanks for posting it hot off the presses.
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08-24-2012 at 04:25 PM.
08-24-2012 at 04:25 PM.
Quote from veritableqndry :
I hope someone makes an octagonal phone with dials and levers instead of buttons and everybody buys it just to spite... someone.
laugh out loud I'd at least be amused.

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OUCH.....real bad day for Sammy. Thanks for posting it hot off the presses.
Buncha people about to lose jobs, if they haven't already. It's really dumb to infringe on copyrights. Dumber still to infringe on Apple's copyrights.
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08-24-2012 at 04:31 PM.
08-24-2012 at 04:31 PM.
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laugh out loud I'd at least be amused.
Seriously though who actually wins in a case like this?

No matter what phone you want it still costs eleventy hundred dollars, unless you're willing to sell your soul & chain your future to one shitty wireless company or the other for 2-12 years to get a subsidy that isn't worth the first six months of your fees, you can't reliably predict what your bill's going to be and you're more likely to get hit with weirdass hidden charges than to find a nickel on the sidewalk anymore. Want to pay your bill online? Surprise! It costs more then mailing a check. Except you have to enroll in paperless billing in order to get the free case and Beats by Dre(c)(r)(tm)(fk) headset. We can only sign you up for this special family sharing plan at a Best Buy in Kentucky, but if you buy the phone online we'll send a kid to your house the day after it arrives to help you program it (you should tip him a few dollars and give him a bottle of water). Near the end of your contract we'll send a signal to your phone to make it stop working, about a day after the warranty or insurance runs out but a few weeks before you're eligible for the next shitty subsidy on the newest overpriced handsets. Oh and your nighttime minutes start sixteen minutes after sundown but we use GMT not any time zone you've ever heard of! Good luck!
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08-24-2012 at 04:35 PM.
08-24-2012 at 04:35 PM.
Quote from Landers :
laugh out loud I'd at least be amused.


Buncha people about to lose jobs, if they haven't already. It's really dumb to infringe on copyrights. Dumber still to infringe on Apple's copyrights.

No, what's dumb is the US patent system giving apple patents on things they didn't invent, and no one should be able to patent. Patent law in the US is out of control and needs to be fixed.
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08-24-2012 at 04:36 PM.
08-24-2012 at 04:36 PM.
well, infringing the UI is one thing, but the front dress? That's just wrong. What's next...we all run out to trademark the shape of our next morning turd?
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08-24-2012 at 04:38 PM.
08-24-2012 at 04:38 PM.
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No, what's dumb is the US patent system giving apple patents on things they didn't invent, and no one should be able to patent. Patent law in the US is out of control and needs to be fixed.
In all seriousness, what patents, specifically, are you referring to? I ask in sheer curiosity, not trying to be a dick.

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well, infringing the UI is one thing, but the front dress? That's just wrong. What's next...we all run out to trademark the shape of our next morning turd?
So you're saying you should be allowed to trademark how software and a GUI looks, but not physical hardware design? So anyone should be able to copy what a Dell Inspiron looks like and market it as a different brand? Or a MacBook Pro and market it as a different brand? Really?
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08-24-2012 at 04:39 PM.
08-24-2012 at 04:39 PM.
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well, infringing the UI is one thing, but the front dress? That's just wrong. What's next...we all run out trademark the shape of our next morning turd?

Exactly. The apple patents are the tech equivalent of patenting 4 wheels on a car, or rectangular tv's, or having a flat screen. They're insanely, unfairly broad. They never should have been given in the first place and now look what's happened? People will probably lose their jobs, and a company has to pay over a billion dollars for using very basic features.
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08-24-2012 at 04:40 PM.
08-24-2012 at 04:40 PM.
I invented one-finger peck-typing with my right middle finger and I'd better not catch any of you motherfarkers copying me! Mad
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08-24-2012 at 04:40 PM.
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I invented one-finger peck-typing with my right middle finger and I'd better not catch any of you motherfarkers copying me! Mad
Good. I use my left finger!
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08-24-2012 at 04:42 PM.
08-24-2012 at 04:42 PM.
Quote from Landers :
In all seriousness, what patents, specifically, are you referring to? I ask in sheer curiosity, not trying to be a dick.


So you're saying you should be allowed to trademark how software and a GUI looks, but not physical hardware design? So anyone should be able to copy what a Dell Inspiron looks like and market it as a different brand? Or a MacBook Pro and market it as a different brand? Really?

I'm not entirely sure where to look now. I just heard them describe the patent on the news. They basically have a patent on touch-screen technology (using fingers to navigate, pinch-to-zoom, etc) even though some of the tech involved wasn't invented by them
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08-24-2012 at 04:42 PM.
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Good. I use my left finger!
I'm sorry you only have the one. Comfort
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08-24-2012 at 04:46 PM.
08-24-2012 at 04:46 PM.
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I'm sorry you only have the one. Comfort
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08-24-2012 at 04:46 PM.
08-24-2012 at 04:46 PM.
I think I'll go out and get a whole bunch of Sammy tablet that will get banned soon. There'll be a market for those i'm sure LOL.

You all should watch this TED video of Everything is a remix.
http://youtu.be/zd-dqUuvLk4

Better yet just the good part at 7;20 with apple and steve jobs quote from 1996.
http://youtu.be/zd-dqUuvLk4?t=7m20s
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