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Quote from brbubba : Interesting discussion on the Freakonomics podcast. Basically they said that by a significant margin pools are responsible for more child deaths than guns, but you don't hear people saying, "my child isn't going over there because they own a pool". Basically people are really really bad at judging statistics and how it applies to their everyday life.

That's great, if you want to listen to somebody lie to you and believe it, you're certainly entitled to that.

Yes, between ages 1 and 4, drowning is the leading cause of violet death [cdc.gov]... but it's fairly low -- about 500 per year. Between ages 15-24, guns kill over 5,000 people a year.

Overall, drowning is the 10th leading cause of injury death in America, while guns are the 3rd leading cause.

Quote from Rebound : That's great, if you want to listen to somebody lie to you and believe it, you're certainly entitled to that. Yes, between ages 1 and 4, drowning is the leading cause of violet death [cdc.gov]... but it's fairly low -- about 500 per year. Between ages 15-24, guns kill over 5,000 people a year. Overall, drowning is the 10th leading cause of injury death in America, while guns are the 3rd leading cause.

No one was lying to us nor have you proven that. Also what's the breakdown of gun related suicides? IMO, suicides should not be counted in any tallies of gun related deaths, because they will skew the results significantly. People hear gun related deaths and think murders, gang shootings, etc., when the majority of those gun related deaths were suicides.

Quote from brbubba : No one was lying to us nor have you proven that. Also what's the breakdown of gun related suicides? IMO, suicides should not be counted in any tallies of gun related deaths, because they will skew the results significantly. People hear gun related deaths and think murders, gang shootings, etc., when the majority of those gun related deaths were suicides.

Have you ever asked yourself why so many "attempted suicides" fail? It turns out that people who attempt suicide really are trying to die. Having a gun obviously leads to a much higher chance of "success". But suicide is often a temporary state, brought on by treatable, temporary clinical depression.

When the Israeli Army started requiring soldiers to keep their weapons in a garrison instead of taking them home, suicides fell -- and they stayed down.

Maybe this brief, temporary state of depression could happen to you, or your beloved teenage son. So there's no doubt that America's 300 million guns lead to more "success" in suicides.