Should people like Holmes & Loughner even deserve a trial?

I've always wondered about this and I'm not sure if this may be podium material but feel free to move it to the lounge if needed.

I'm not sure what the cost of big trials like the one for Jared Loughner (Tucson shooter) or John Holmes (Colorado shooter) are but what annoys me is that the media reports always refer to him as the "alleged shooter".

If there are plenty of witnesses and/or cameras that have caught him doing the act why bother even giving him a trial? All of the trials/hearings/proceedings/mental evaluations cost money right? Why bother when it is obvious they were the shooters? Sure if the evidence isn't obvious (like in Zimmerman's case, I don't know whether or not the evidence is clear in that case because I'm not too familiar with it but it sounds like it isn't).

Also, what jury would find either of the two shooters (Holmes/Loughner) innocent? Am I missing something or is it just a complete waste of time and money giving these two a trial?

Do they deserve a trial? No
Do they have the right to a trial? Yes

And that is the way it has to be.

Emotionally, I would like see both of them drug out into the street to hang.
Our system does not allow for that, and rightfully so.

Quote from Iaaaiws : Do they deserve a trial? No Do they have the right to a trial? Yes And that is the way it has to be.

I agree. Deserve from a moral stand point? hell no! Should they get one because we are a nation of laws? Yes.

Give them a speedy trial and then sentence them to hang in the street.

Well some of you can ask Obama to authorized a hit on Holmes then...After all he has the sole authority now to do just that

Cause its always awesome when the side who holds itself as being better and just and fair stoop to the same level as those it seeks to punish..

when evil fights evil, let me know what good will being the winner be...

A trial is helpful to determine the final charges, and thus the sentencing for those charges.

The news says "alleged" due to the small chance they might get in legal trouble by not saying "alleged."

Everyone deserves a trial. Some people may just have much speedier and open-and-shut ones than other people.

I'm all for the court system, justice and happy stuff but when it's this obvious, a trial is just a waste of time and money.

Yes they deserve a trial. Even when there is overwhelming evidence they are the shooter, there may not be overwhelming evidence to their state of mind. This will speak to their sentencing. In Arizona there is not a "not guilty by reason of insanity" but there is a verdict "guilty but insane".

Quote from charles052 : Give them a speedy trial and then sentence them to hang in the street.

Abortions for some, little American flags for others, eh?

I fhink that if the state is going to hand out punishment, the person they're punishing should get a trial, and have their guilt proven beyond a reasonable doubt. The punishments, if proven guilty, should be reflective of the state laws at the time that the crime(s) were committed. (In the case of these two, IMO there's little, if any, doubt as to whether or not they shot and killed people)