A message to the voting cattle.

Quote from lemontart68 : State worship is extremely bizarre from Christians who should know that they are to worship God alone. I don't vote, I don't have a team because I know His kingdom is not of this world. OP, you might like this one as well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb8Rj5xkDPk

There has always been a streak in Christi.anity of withdrawal from the world, however that is not what Jesus' life was about. His was an engagement with the world.

The more I read lemontart, the more I believe her to be a deceiver and concern troll.

Quote from LivninSC : LOL, two screens means one just sits there and increases that figure I'll click on the link and just let it run and not watch it if it'll make you feel better.

Dont need to watch it, just listen.

Quote from EscapeVelo : There has always been a streak in Christi.anity of withdrawal from the world, however that is not what Jesus' life was about. His was an engagement with the world. The more I read lemontart, the more I believe her to be a deceiver and concern troll.

Please cite the scripture that commands Christians to vote.

Quote from lemontart68 : Please cite the scripture that commands Christians to vote.

Question: "Does God expect Christians to vote?" [gotquestions.org]

Answer: It is our contention that it is the duty and responsibility of every Christian to vote and to vote for leaders who promote Christian principles. God is most certainly in control, but that does not mean we should do nothing to further His will. We are commanded to pray for our leaders (1 Timothy 2:1-4). In terms of politics and leadership, there is evidence in Scripture that God has been displeased with our choices of leadership at times (Hosea 8:4). The evidence of sin’s grip on this world is everywhere. Much of the suffering on earth is because of godless leadership (Proverbs 28:12). Scripture gives Christians instructions to obey legitimate authority unless it contradicts the Lord’s commands (Acts 5:27-29; Romans 13:1-7). As born-again believers, we ought to strive to choose leaders who will be themselves led by our Creator (1 Samuel 12:13-25). Candidates or proposals that violate the Bible’s commands for life, family, marriage, or faith should never be supported (Proverbs 14:34). Christians should vote as led through prayer and study of both God’s Word and the realities of the choices on the ballot.

Christians in many countries in this world are oppressed and persecuted. They suffer under governments they are powerless to change and governments that hate their faith and silence their voices. These believers preach the gospel of Jesus Christ at risk of their own lives. In the U.S.A., Christians have been blessed with the right to speak about and choose their leaders without fearing for themselves or their families. In the U.S.A., in recent elections, about 2 of every 5 of self-professed Christians took that right for granted and did not vote. About 1 in 5 self-professed, eligible Christians are not even registered to vote.

In our day and age, there are many who want to drive the name and message of Christ completely out of the public arena. Voting is an opportunity to promote, protect, and preserve godly government. Passing up that opportunity means letting those who would denigrate the name of Christ have their way in our lives. The leaders we elect—or do nothing to remove—have great influence on our freedoms. They can choose to protect our right to worship and spread the gospel, or they can restrict those rights. They can lead our nation toward righteousness or toward moral disaster. As Christians, we should stand up and follow our command to fulfill our civic duties (Matthew 22:21).

Quote from EscapeVelo : Question: "Does God expect Christians to vote?" [gotquestions.org] Answer: It is our contention that it is the duty and responsibility of every Christian to vote and to vote for leaders who promote Christian principles. God is most certainly in control, but that does not mean we should do nothing to further His will. We are commanded to pray for our leaders (1 Timothy 2:1-4). In terms of politics and leadership, there is evidence in Scripture that God has been displeased with our choices of leadership at times (Hosea 8:4). The evidence of sin’s grip on this world is everywhere. Much of the suffering on earth is because of godless leadership (Proverbs 28:12). Scripture gives Christians instructions to obey legitimate authority unless it contradicts the Lord’s commands (Acts 5:27-29; Romans 13:1-7). As born-again believers, we ought to strive to choose leaders who will be themselves led by our Creator (1 Samuel 12:13-25). Candidates or proposals that violate the Bible’s commands for life, family, marriage, or faith should never be supported (Proverbs 14:34). Christians should vote as led through prayer and study of both God’s Word and the realities of the choices on the ballot. Christians in many countries in this world are oppressed and persecuted. They suffer under governments they are powerless to change and governments that hate their faith and silence their voices. These believers preach the gospel of Jesus Christ at risk of their own lives. In the U.S.A., Christians have been blessed with the right to speak about and choose their leaders without fearing for themselves or their families. In the U.S.A., in recent elections, about 2 of every 5 of self-professed Christians took that right for granted and did not vote. About 1 in 5 self-professed, eligible Christians are not even registered to vote. In our day and age, there are many who want to drive the name and message of Christ completely out of the public arena. Voting is an opportunity to promote, protect, and preserve godly government. Passing up that opportunity means letting those who would denigrate the name of Christ have their way in our lives. The leaders we elect—or do nothing to remove—have great influence on our freedoms. They can choose to protect our right to worship and spread the gospel, or they can restrict those rights. They can lead our nation toward righteousness or toward moral disaster. As Christians, we should stand up and follow our command to fulfill our civic duties (Matthew 22:21).

Scripture only, no commentary, thanks.

Quote from fishy420 : Just watch the video Nobama, I almost had you in mind when I posted it. And seeing you are just commenting on the 20 seconds I quoted tells me you didn't.

Did you actually think he would?

Quote from EscapeVelo : The more I read lemontart, the more I believe her to be a deceiver and concern troll.

That's funny, the more I read, the more I believe she represents a true Christian.

Quote from fishy420 : "The upstanding, church going, law abiding, tax paying citizen who votes democrat and republican is far more despicable and a bigger threat to humanity, then the most promiscuous, lazy drug snorting hippy. Why? Because the hippy is willing to let others be free, and the voter is not" The speech in this video is an excerpt of the novel „The Iron Web" by Larken Rose. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t..._embedded#! This is 20 minutes of... you just have to watch it. I've never been presented with such truth.

So I take it you aren't going to vote for Ron Paul?

Quote from paperboy05 : So I take it you aren't going to vote for Ron Paul?

There is a difference.



If only we could get more people to think this the better off we will be.

Quote from Frogstar : Did you actually think he would? That's funny, the more I read, the more I believe she represents a true Christian.

Yeah, the "Good Jew." who quietly goes to the trains. The "Good Christian" who cedes this world to Lucifer and quietly goes to the Coliseum.

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. - Edmund Burke

Quote from fishy420 : There is a difference.

Therein lies the paradox, huh? If there exists differences to the premise of the video, why should we believe that the video is inherently truthful and not completely full of "differences"? Due to Ron Paul, you just invalidated your video.

Quote from EscapeVelo : Yeah, the "Good Jew." who quietly goes to the trains. The "Good Christian" who cedes this world to Lucifer and quietly goes to the Coliseum. All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. - Edmund Burke

John 18:36
Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

Quote from Frogstar : Did you actually think he would? That's funny, the more I read, the more I believe she represents a true Christian.

Excepting that she isnt practicing what she preaches. If she did that, she would stop criticizing other Christians, as she practices not criticizing anybody else.

That is why she is a concern troll of Christians.

She should quietly pursue her own version of Christianity and leave other Christians to what she sees as their folly, just as she leaves non-Christians to their folly.

But alas...

Quote from paperboy05 : Therein lies the paradox, huh? If there exists differences to the premise of the video, why should we believe that the video is inherently truthful and not completely full of "differences"? Due to Ron Paul, you just invalidated your video.

Not my video. Just thought more people should see it. Not many can stand to hear about themselves and their own enslavement. The end of the video is pretty close to how I feel about the sheeple I interact with.

Quote from fishy420 : Not my video. Just thought more people should see it.

Why? Clearly there's at least one error in it according to you.

Quote : Not many can stand to hear about themselves and their own enslavement. The end of the video is pretty close to how I feel about the sheeple I interact with.

Is that the line you quoted? If so, you're one of those very same sheep FYI.