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Last edited by financechick; 08-06-2012 at 12:20 PM.. |
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and i don't have the experience nor desire to play the stock market, CD's would be my priority but the rates are so low now that i won't even consider, i guess you could classify me as risk-averse |
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Goddamn FinanceChick, go out for a walk or something. What the OP is asking for very simply DOES NOT EXIST. If you or OP thinks that .89% is high yield, great, Ally is happy to take your money. Instead, using a very logical set of assumptions aznnp77 gave some very sound advice. For example, having the OP look around his local area for smaller banks who might have a better deal that hasn't made it internet wide yet. For example, I think NFCU recently had a 1 year cd at 2%. Better deal for OP interest wise, but obviously not liquid. Since OP can't have everything in life, the best we can do is guess based on what he has told us.
So, OP, why not a little more detail: 1. How much money are we talking here? If we're talking about $1k vs. $100k there are very different "best options" for you. 1a. OP - Please realize that if we are talking $1k, we're arguing over pennies. 2. What is your time horizon here? You may need the money at any point in the future, won't need the money for a year? 2 years? 10 years? Again, we can try to make guesses (my guess is you're a college student who needs a smart place to stash his beer fund) but then I suppose I'll get an angry response from Financechick for guessing. 3. What part of the country are you in? 4. Do you have a job that provides a direct deposit (this is very important) Best Slick Deals:
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Agreed and backed. There is no such thing as a high-yield savings account today, so arguing that any of these answers are what the OP is asking for is absurd. If you need an account with no minimum balance, what is the point of trying to use a savings account? If you need your funds that liquid or your funds are in a small enough amount that it won't meet the threshold of "higher" rate accounts, why go through the time and effort of opening an account, doing transfers, etc. Let's say you bank with BOA and you put funds with Ally in a savings. So something happens and you need the money immediately to fix an issue. You either wait 2-3 days for an ACH or wire the money to yourself and eat all or a large percentage of your interest gains with the wire fee. Keeping funds spread out for .5 or .89 just doesn't make any sense whatsoever to me. If you're risk averse, you probably shouldn't be putting your cash with a bank that needs to buy your money and offer the highest interest rate because either their reserves are low or they're hurting for more loans/deposits on the books and need to bring in the money quickly. I agree with the other poster who closed the ING account - so did I. It was annoying if/when I needed to make transfers. I closed ING Direct ckg, sav, ira and brokerage because of the Capital One purchase. |
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if you are in the northwest area, BECU (www.becu.org)
no fees/minimums, 6.7% last i checked |
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0.10% on the everything over that |
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Op, yes please more details. Also to consider doing at Ally is the long term CD option. Their CD's have very low EWP 2 month (early withdrawl penalty) but a 5 yr cd with 1.74 is a good option. If you have 10K, open 1 5K cd and 5 1K cd. If you need liquidity, break the cd that makes sense and keep the others at higher rates. the break even point for the cd is not that long so do consider this option. http://www.depositaccounts.com/bl...-2012.html Superoceans Threads &Rebate tracking worksheet &Frys Rebate FAQ
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Try American Express:
http://personalsavings.americanexpress.com/ Their current rate is 0.85% and the account setup was fast and easy, and customer service has been good so far. Also very easy to transfer money back and forth with my checking account at another bank. |
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Last edited by financechick; 08-08-2012 at 11:33 AM.. |
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I was just pointing out that the OP is not going to earn gobs of interest putting their money into a savings account. Sometimes you look for a solution and find an even better one. I was just pointing out to not make a big deal out of a few tenths of a percentage rate and go with a situation that they would be most comfortable with, because "rate chasing" as some would call it would have a financial benefit that is almost neglible considering how much the investment is. |
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I understand that you may want to STRONGLY voice your opinion, but you don't need to be demeaning. Relax. Accept that people are different and have an open discussion. If earning half of a percent is that important, then do it! If you have other life goals other than simple low-interest savings accounts, find another product that is popular in today's market. Overall, don't just focus on this one issue. We need more information to actually provide a recommendation. Asking for an account with high interest and no minimums is fine, but provide clarification as to why you want it. Some accounts better fit needs than others. (inB4 obscene quote response where everything I said is nitpicked and blown out of proportion to make someone feel better and more powerful). |
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I don't care about BOA at all. I wouldn't put money with them and wouldn't recommend it to anyone else. My point in saying that I agreed was to the meaning of the post, not each individual rate or account that was mentioned. My point was that your response is ludacris.
HINT: don’t agree with somebody who’s said something factually inaccurate, & then cry foul. "high yield" is RELATIVE to CURRENT market conditions, NOT to what market conditions were 5 years ago. Sure, I agree that it is relative. But earning nothing on nothing is still nothing. What is the difference in the spread? Since we're looking for something that doesn't have a minimum, lets assume that we have $500 to save. (Another example below) $500 @ .01% is $.05/year - @ .50% you'll earn $2.50 - you've still earned nothing. It will still take 144 years to double your money. LOL! $500 is actually SOMETHING to MANY people (try snatching it out of somebody's hand) $2.45 is also SOMETHING to MANY people (Haven’t you seen hundreds of people standing in line for a free Denny’s breakfast?) You’re assuming that there will be no more than ONE deposit of $500 (the OP likely anticipates future deposits, no?) Also, a savings account is not intended to “double money” quickly. It’s a place to store cash for SHORT-TERM NEEDS. Therefore, your example is DUMB. Next example: Liquidity isn't a factor in a savings account - even if it has a minimum. liquidity isn't a factor? LOLWUT? all the money in the account is CASH & AVAILABLE! You really are a insurance salesman, aren’t you? If you need the money, guess what you can do? CLOSE THE ACCOUNT. LOLWUT? that's the ONLY way you can get the money? I just transferred $7k from savings to checking. BUT my savings account is STILL OPEN! You can avoid that fee for going below the minimum by closing the account if you can't meet it any more. what FEES? we're discussing NO-FEE, NO-MINIMUM BALANCE savings accounts. perhaps you're in the wrong thread. If you have more than $10,000 to invest, you'll get a better product with someone who may have a minimum on their account. "better" in what ways & for whom? And who’s talking about INVESTING? The OP just needs a place to park some CASH for HIS SHORT-TERM needs. Do you peddle financial products for a living? I didn't say that you wanted the money available to spend on a debit card with a maximum or that you wanted to write a check, I insinuated that you wanted cash. If you want to be able to walk in and walk out with a large sum of money - you can't. in an emergency, you could: *transfer money from savings to checking online (one click) AND *open several local accounts, and deposit $5k in each one (with checks from your online checking account). unless you're a deadbeat, you'd get immediate access (in cash) to those funds. this situation might require a phone call or three to your online bank for funds verification. you'd get your money, though. BUT BE REALISTIC. if the OP frequently encountered an IMMEDIATE need for HUGE sums of cash, do you think he'd put ALL of his funds in online banks that lack branches? of course not. he'd already have relationships in place with a B&M institution or two, which would gladly cash big checks for him & give him a HUGE sum of cash IMMEDIATELY. The one day transfer time to your checking... Still an issue. Savings ----> Checking @ the same online bank. Check ---> Local Checking Account @ local branch CASH IN HAND VICTORY DANCE Your response to this being an issue is the same as my response to the low savings rate being unworthy of any extra effort - they're opinions. We're both entitled to them and we're both entitled to explain and recommend them. LOL! What opinion? That you might need to wait a day for funds to transfer to an external account? That’s a FACT! LOL! you really can't think of any instance where that would make sense? No, honestly I can't. If I have $250,000 and I would actually earn a few bucks in the higher rate account, I wouldn't keep it in a savings. I would have my funds in something providing a much higher return (3yr fixed annuity if I was risk averse, but in my case I'd have it in an all-growth portfolio). that’s YOU. Other people might not be able or willing to tie up funds for three years (and get ripped off with annuity fees) or subject their money to the unpredictability of the stock market. For the funds that I actually do keep in savings (only my emergency fund of 6mo of living expenses), I don't really care if they earn anything. LOL! And you assume nobody else cares either? I care. The OP cares. And so do thousands (if not millions) of other people. HINT: this is why there are so many websites that show us what institutions are paying the highest interest. You've obviously never had direct experience with the FDIC. Having worked with them through two banks going bust, the experience is lackluster compared to public opinion. your two, anecdotal experiences are just that----ANECDOTAL. if you want to be taken seriously, post some objective research on this topic. You know, something that goes beyond YOUR TWO experiences. also, nice job of ignoring your earlier, ridiculous claim that banks offering high-yield accounts were obviously in terrible financial health. So you have a large amount of money with a bank and it fails - do you know what happens next? Do you think that your money magically appears in a new, usable account? since we're playing the anecdote game, I'm going with "yes.". i've had accounts @ six banks that failed. the funds did, in fact, magically appear in new, usable accounts @ acquiring banks. Most people will find that their money takes weeks, months, and sometimes years to be returned. LOL! is this based on your TWO experiences? that doesn't jive with my SIX experiences. SIX beats TWO. So you lose. Also, the FDIC has no set repayment time table - they pay "as soon as possible." My $30,000 that was in a savings took three years of monthly payments to be returned to me. well, since it happened to YOU, it MUST be the NORM! YOU couldn't possibly be an ANOMALY! Relying on the FDIC for coverage is fine, but expect to have any interest earned evaporate immediately and receive only a return of your original principal. oh look, you're wrong, yet AGAIN. FDIC insurance covers depositors’ accounts at each insured bank, dollar-for-dollar, including principal and any accrued interest through the date of the insured bank’s closing, up to the insurance limit. http://www.fdic.gov/deposit/depos...asics.html Expect it to take a long time and expect to earn nothing on your money while the FDIC holds it and disburses it to you slowly. When can I expect to receive my money? Federal law requires the FDIC to make payments of insured deposits "as soon as possible" upon the failure of an insured institution. While every bank failure is unique, there are standard policies and procedures that the FDIC follows in making deposit insurance payments. It is the FDIC's goal to make deposit insurance payments within two business day of the failure of the insured institution. http://www.fdic.gov/consumers/ban...yment.html that's consistent with my SIX experiences. so I win, yet again. LOL! it's one click, if you've got both checking/savings. each account is free. so why not have both? Because I don't want to wait the 1, 2, or 3 days it takes to get my money when I need it. just get yourself a nice, local CU, with free checking. click a button. write a check. deposit it. walla! you've got a HUGE sum of cash IMMEDIATELY! LOL! I thought you closed your ING accounts because those easy, one-click transfers were so annoying. You must have mis-read. I did close an ING account (singular, not plural) because of the inconvenience. I closed the rest after Capital One. I'm glad that those one-click transfers don't INCONVENIENCE you anymore. Now you can just walk to a bus stop. wait 20 mins. get on the bus. arrive at the bank 15 mins later. stand in line for 10 mins. and get that HUGE sum of cash you need IMMEDIATELY! ........ The reality of the conversation is that this is a forum and we're here to give opinions and answer questions. your opinions are beyond the scope of the thread. The OP asked for a savings-account recommendation. You went off on a tangent or three. Neither of us are wrong, but we have different beliefs. Your efforts to make me sound wrong are pointless. Nothing that I've said is wrong. BELIEFS? pretty much everything you've said is FACTUALLY wrong. *an extra [insert arbitrary dollar figure] is NOTHING to EVERYBODY *an online savings account ISN'T liquid (if you want you funds, apparently your only option is to close the account & wait many years for a check to arrive) *if your bank fails, the FDIC typically takes years to return your funds, but only after stripping them of any & all interest *a high-yield savings account is ALWAYS unsuitable if you've got [insert arbitrary dollar figure] *you can't park a lot of funds in an online savings account & get SAME-DAY access to HUGE sums of cash. I understand that you may want to STRONGLY voice your opinion, but you don't need to be demeaning. Relax. Accept that people are different and have an open discussion. LOL! YOUR responses are OPINIONS. MY responses are FACTUAL. If earning half of a percent is that important, then do it! If you have other life goals other than simple low-interest savings accounts, find another product that is popular in today's market. LOL! like a bank account that pays ZERO interest? Overall, don't just focus on this one issue. We need more information to actually provide a recommendation. one thread, one issue. create another thread, where you can provide an "in-depth analysis" of the OP's financial condition. in that thread, you can tell "FDIC horror stories" & encourage him to put short-term capital in fee-laden annuities or risky stocks. Asking for an account with high interest and no minimums is fine, but provide clarification as to why you want it. he's under no obligation to tell us WHY he wants that type of account. why don't you RELAX & understand that people are DIFFERENT & may feel uncomfortable providing more information? Some accounts better fit needs than others. right. The OP asked for RECOMMENDATIONS. He’s a big boy who can figure out which one meets his needs. (inB4 obscene quote response where everything I said is nitpicked and blown out of proportion to make someone feel better and more powerful). RELAX! You’ll have a chance to respond with more of your opinions & beliefs. I’m off now to close my online savings account & to start pursuing BIG LIFE GOALS! Last edited by financechick; 08-09-2012 at 04:29 PM.. |
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Your obscene exaggerations of the things I say and twisting of my words is ridiculous. Your misunderstanding of the issues is also off-putting. If you can't accept facts and accept reasonable debate, don't debate. Don't twist the words of others to things which they did not say and try to make them bad. Also, don't separate my paragraphs where each sentence is tied to the next so that individual pieces can sound like things they are not. Nothing that I have said is factually wrong - I never used a definitive in any of the opinions I posted and clarified between them and fact. You continual use of the word "everyone" was never used in my posts. Did I say that my opinions were true for everyone? Nope. Do I have a lot of money? No. Is $500 important to me? No. I care more about my experiences in life and save money in the large areas. If you're looking for a great return, lets say 14.99% - pay off your credit cards. If you're looking to lose 30-50% over the next two years - buy a new car. I'm happy to try and help, but individual goals are different and assuming that the goals of the OP are different than my goals isn't an assumption you can make without actually asking for his wants and needs. I'm not afraid to have an open discussion - there is also no winning and losing here. The competition in your posts is plain dumb. Your insinuation that someone asking about a high-yield no minimum account (who isn't able to use Google to find it) also has the capacity to decide which one is best for them is off base. If you can't find the accounts with easy tools readily available online, you probably don't have the capacity to decide which is best as a monetary instrument. Also, a savings account IS an investment - it fits the definition just as any other product would. While your approach may be to provide a quick link to a specific account (which you didn't, by the way - you threadjacked to make me sound bad instead and provided no real advice), my thoughts would be different and I would try to discover what the real need is before making a recommendation. I ultimately care what the OP is looking for and would like to provide real-world advice that will have real success. I'm not going to go through your post and separate out the sentences to respond. I'm not backpedaling on anything that I've said and if you ask a specific question I will answer. I don't need to defend myself or my experiences to you. I'm not going to reply if something is written back in your previous format. Write in full paragraphs and thoughts and produce some original input if you're looking for a further conversation. |
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