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Backing up data online help!
My old laptop and external hard drive both crapped out at the same time. Just wondering if anyone can help with some good online backup sites to save me a heart attack in the future. I use dropbox but mostly for work items. I have messed with Google drive a little. Not much with sky drive.Thanks for your help everyone! I think this will be a great thread! |
| 08-07-2012, 05:01 AM | |
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Yeah you named off three pretty good ones in Skydrive, Google Drive, and Dropbox. Throw in Amazon Cloud and/or doing it yourself by getting cheap webspace and using FTP/rsync and you've got a lot to choose from.
Is there anything about the interface of the online storage that you prefer? Do you have a budget? |
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The above suggestions all work, but I think we can do better if we learn more the situation you are in. As always the more we know the more we can help, details, details, details. . . .
How much data are you looking to backup? Is it all on one computer? External Drives, NAS? Multiple Computers? How important is security? Are you willing to pay? If so how much? What is your internet connection speed? Are you looking to just backup a folder, or all the files on all hard drives? Once we get these answered I can go into more detail. I will say this, I use Backblaze and am pretty happy with them. Crashplan is another good service, especially if you have multiple computers you want to cover or someone like your parents computers you want to cover. Many of these services are similar, but there are some key differences that set them apart. Last edited by LiquidRetro; 08-07-2012 at 06:25 AM.. Vague questions receive vague answers . . . . . .
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2. Pretty much one computer. Looking at getting another external hard drive. Some data is stored at my work computer and my wife's work laptop. 3. Pretty important for some, not as much with others. If someone stole photos from my 30th birthday party, I would not lose sleep over it. If they took tax documents, that would be worrisome. I guess more focus on not losing the data rather than potential exposure to getting the data. 4. Prefer to pay nothing but would like to hear about some paid options just to compare. 5. Comcast cable modem. 6. Select folders. Let me know if you have more questions. Name, rank, serial #? Thanks! |
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The other set like the tax documents I would backup to a drive / cd / dvd and store somewhere other then your home/ office. Also I would look at the user agreements on what rights to the data do you have I know they can be tricky and you might give up all rights to the data. |
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(I personally had this problem backing up a few externals I don't need access to but wanted to have offsite, I found it too much labor to remember which drive needed to be gotten out, powered on and when. I solved it by consolidating my externals onto a new 2tb internal. It was also nice because it covered as another copy. The last thing you want is to think you are backed up on the external drive and remove the copy from the main computer. One copy is not a backup). Many of the pay services also charge per PC. So to cover everything automatically you at 3 subscriptions/licenses. This is where Crashplan fits well. They have a family plan that covers anywhere from 2-10 computers for a fixed monthly fee. Depending on how long you buy for it effects the price. https://www.crashplan.com/consumer/store.vtl Most of these services are designed to backup everything, but do allow you more gradual control if you want. I personally take this approach and then exclude specific folder that I don't need backed up. I like this because if I install a new program and it wants to save things in a folder I don't have set to backup or if I am doing something on say the desktop temporarily and it turns into months instead of days, I am still protected. It's also good for the non tech savy who might save a file in a place they are not sure of on accident etc. Security is an interesting one that can get complicated. I will start with this but go further if I need. It depends on what level of paranoid you are and how much trust you have in the company you are doing business with. If you are paranoid you want a true "Trust No One" approach. While your files will be secure with TNO, you loose some of the functionality, gradually restoring one file (Not always, its complicated), search inside documents from a website, sometimes smartphone access. Many but not all services have options to do Pre Internet Encryption (PIE). This covers the transport only from your computer to the cloud. This protects you if you are in a coffee shop uploading files on public wifi for instance. However this doesnt protect your files in the cloud. Many of the pay services allow you to set your own personal encryption key that the files are protected with while in transit and in the cloud. The important thing is who keeps the key. Some services let the user manage the key 100% by themselves. This is best for security but a nightmare for customer support. If the user looses his personal key than his data is useless to everyone (The company, the user, and the NSA). Some services kind of have a temporary hybrid approach to this, that seems to be ok if your not too paranoid. You can also always encrypt your files with a 3rd party program like truecrypt and then pile all this other stuff on top if your dealing with classified national secretes I do know that Dropbox, Skydrive, Google Drive, and Amazon cloud don't offer the ability to set your own personal encryption key before upload. They do protect files during transport. So if someone gained access to your account on these services they could download your files in an unencrypted form. This is all pretty complicated, If you want more info let me know. There were a few good podcasts I listened to recently that went into more depth on a lot of this with various different services. I know Comcast use to have a bandwidth cap. Do they still have this? You might need to throttle your initial upload to prevent going over if they still have this in place. Unless you split your files between multiple free services and accounts, I don't see how you are going to get 200gb of files (especially videos, since most free services have file size limits) backed up for free. I think paying for a service best fits your usage anyways. A complicated process with multiple accounts that requires the user to do stuff to kick it them off etc means the chances of backing up are much less. Automation and simplicity are king here. /LongPost |
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I think it is not the case with dropbox. (but i am not a comp.sci guy)
dropbox even doesn't have to sync-up all the truecrypt container when only a part of it change. dropbox can know if truecrypt file change if you uncheck “preserve modification time of file containers” in truecrypt preferences. dropbox then only sync difference, so when you add a 2MB file to your 1GB truecrypt container, only 2MB is uploaded to the clound. http://lifehacker.com/5527055/the...-not-using http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/5-wa...the-cloud/ http://webcache.googleusercontent...clnk&gl=us |
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Crashplan is fairly cheap for unlimited cloud storage. You can also use it to create a free backup server from another computer. Any set of computers with crashplan installed can backup to each other at no cost.
Sugarsync, Wuala, and Bitcasa will allow you to select individual foilders for backup or sync, but cost money over 5gb. Bitcasa and Wuala will encrypt your files before they leave your computer. Crashplan has many encryption options [crashplan.com]. Last edited by hbarnwheeler; 08-07-2012 at 11:36 AM.. |
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My experiences with a 380GB backup set ...
- Carbonite was good for a while but started throttling the upload bandwidth - Mozy was good for a while but changed the pricing structure - no longer attractive for large backup sets - CrashPlan+ is my current solution and has been working well for > 1yr. Pretty cheap if you go for the multi-year option (and they refund the unused time if you want to cancel) |
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