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Quote from psyctto : fyi, there are more directions than 6 here's the 4 channel version, it'll "strafe"... http://www.amazon.com/Syma-Channe...=syma+s800 you'll be much happier, the Syma products are very nice. it's much easier to talk in terms of channels 4ch you're talking about is linked above, uses a simplified swashplate design. buddy just got one, said it flys really well.

I have purchased dozens of these little helicopters and recently bought one of the 4 channel models. I have to say that I still prefer the 3 channel ones for playing around with. My biggest gripe with the 4 channel is that with the dual blade design, it is top heavy and falls over easily. With the 3 channel, if it did fall over, a quick flip of the controller and it will stand itself back up. With the 4 channel, that is not possible and requires you to physically go to where it is at and stand it back up again. It does have a stable flight dynamic to it, but IMHO it's not worth it. The 3 channels are very durable too.

TLDR; it falls over and you have to stand up more.

I've bought these kind (looks exactly like what JCP sells, ExecuHeli something). It's cheap plastic and the balancing bar on top of rotor breaks easily.

Quote from psyctto : it's much easier to talk in terms of channels 4ch you're talking about is linked above, uses a simplified swashplate design. buddy just got one, said it flys really well.

Except there are 4 channel copters which fly like true helicopters, rather than having a coax rotor and a horizontal tail rotor. So there's more to it that just counting channels.

Quote from 68droptop : I have purchased dozens of these little helicopters and recently bought one of the 4 channel models. I have to say that I still prefer the 3 channel ones for playing around with. My biggest gripe with the 4 channel is that with the dual blade design, it is top heavy and falls over easily. With the 3 channel, if it did fall over, a quick flip of the controller and it will stand itself back up. With the 4 channel, that is not possible and requires you to physically go to where it is at and stand it back up again. It does have a stable flight dynamic to it, but IMHO it's not worth it. The 3 channels are very durable too. TLDR; it falls over and you have to stand up more.

I suggest you graduate to a V911 rather than sticking with clunky coax claptraps. One fewer motor saves a lot of weight and adds a lot of performance.

$45-50 to start, and "only" $25 to replace each time you lose/break one. No point in paying almost as much for a Syma and getting another controller you don't need. The Symas I've gone through have broken in minor accidents. The V911's I've lost either because I flew them recklessly into a pool or lost them in the wind 50 feet up over a tree. A Syma wouldn't even be able to fly in those scenarios, so you're less likely to lose one.

Not to mention, they fly MUCH better, and are RF, so you can fly them outside. In fact, I tried a much larger Double Horse chopper thinking it would be better outside, but the micro V911 blows it away in maneuverability and wind resistance.

Plus the external battery is bigger (lasts longer) and lets you fly longer by swapping batteries. Symas have internal li-pos IIRC.

Quote from jesusgirl2k1 : Decided to get the Syma instead. Thank you!

If you want to fly outside, check the V911.

Quote from Troublestylist : Except there are 4 channel copters which fly like true helicopters, rather than having a coax rotor and a horizontal tail rotor. So there's more to it that just counting channels. I suggest you graduate to a V911 rather than sticking with clunky coax claptraps. One fewer motor saves a lot of weight and adds a lot of performance. $45-50 to start, and "only" $25 to replace each time you lose one. No point in paying almost as much for a Syma and getting another controller you don't need. Not to mention, they fly MUCH better, and are RF, so you can fly them outside. In fact, I tried a much larger Double Horse chopper thinking it would be better outside, but the micro V911 blows it away in maneuverability and wind resistance. Plus the external battery is bigger (lasts longer) and lets you fly longer by swapping batteries. Symas have internal li-pos IIRC.

I'll try one out. Just ordered one from Amazon.

I have given away a ton of the Syma's to friends and co-workers as they are cheap, fly easy and are pretty tough.

Quote from 68droptop : I'll try one out. Just ordered one from Amazon. I have given away a ton of the Syma's to friends and co-workers as they are cheap, fly easy and are pretty tough.

Yep...definitely a good starter. I'm tempted to get another one to give to the kids who want to fly my V911. But I'm pretty sure it'd get away from them (so the Syma would be the sacrificial lamb). I don't find it any harder to fly than a Syma, but I'm sure it's just because I've practiced for hours.

Grab a few more batteries from fleabay China....and maybe even play the odds and order a spare copter (copter only is under $25) for spare/parts.

Quote from Troublestylist : Yep...definitely a good starter. I'm tempted to get another one to give to the kids who want to fly my V911. But I'm pretty sure it'd get away from them (so the Syma would be the sacrificial lamb). I don't find it any harder to fly than a Syma, but I'm sure it's just because I've practiced for hours. Grab a few more batteries from fleabay China....and maybe even play the odds and order a spare copter (copter only is under $25) for spare/parts.

Grabbed a V911 for the 6yo and myself

Rep'd for starting another money-pit hobby! It'll be good fun to smash it into a tree or small pet

Quote from Ghost15026 : Grabbed a V911 for the 6yo and myself Rep'd for starting another money-pit hobby! It'll be good fun to smash it into a tree or small pet

LOL...probably a bit zippy for a 6yo. Good luck to you.

After you get good at it, go fly a REAL helo. That's a money pit hobby. Cost me $200 for 20 minutes, but the practice time on the RC made it pretty easy to hover. Unfortunately, adding pitch control (collective) was difficult, and adding yaw control (pedals) was impossible. By then, I was all over the sky.

So, flying an RC is definitely much easier than flying a real helo. Amazing what a few gyros can do for stability....too bad they can't afford to qualify them for manned aircraft.

I personally own this RC helicopter (got it about a year ago when it came out for $32) ive used it very often and crashed it plenty of times. its holding up great! for the price its definitely a steal!
The Syma s107's are a little more steady but you have to make sure you get a real one. Real ones have a red micro chip under the gears, and the fake ones have a green micro chip. So make sure you check it when you get it!
I personally prefer the Propel RC Heli. It has held up longer then my Syma..

And if you want a really good one, spend the 25 extra bucks and get the V911 its the best budget RC Helicopter you can buy. The reviews say it all check it out:
http://www.amazon.com/2-4GHz-Sing...helicopter

Quote from bikerboy9115 : I personally own this RC helicopter (got it about a year ago when it came out for $32) ive used it very often and crashed it plenty of times. its holding up great! for the price its definitely a steal! The Syma s107's are a little more steady but you have to make sure you get a real one. Real ones have a red micro chip under the gears, and the fake ones have a green micro chip. So make sure you check it when you get it! I personally prefer the Propel RC Heli. It has held up longer then my Syma.. And if you want a really good one, spend the 25 extra bucks and get the V911 its the best budget RC Helicopter you can buy. The reviews say it all check it out: http://www.amazon.com/2-4GHz-Sing...helicopter

I rather get this v929 because everyone is building quads now.
http://www.urlhasbeenblocked/Wlto...49705.html

Quote from Troublestylist : Except there are 4 channel copters which fly like true helicopters, rather than having a coax rotor and a horizontal tail rotor. So there's more to it that just counting channels.

Not sure what you meant by this... Obviously there are helis other than these coxial ones, fixed and collective pitch both with and without flybars. Channels ranging from 4 to 8 in some cases.

The rotor type really doesn't have much to do with the channel count, so I'm not sure where you were going with that.

Quote from 68droptop : I have purchased dozens of these little helicopters and recently bought one of the 4 channel models. I have to say that I still prefer the 3 channel ones for playing around with. My biggest gripe with the 4 channel is that with the dual blade design, it is top heavy and falls over easily. With the 3 channel, if it did fall over, a quick flip of the controller and it will stand itself back up. With the 4 channel, that is not possible and requires you to physically go to where it is at and stand it back up again. It does have a stable flight dynamic to it, but IMHO it's not worth it. The 3 channels are very durable too. TLDR; it falls over and you have to stand up more.

ah, yeah the S107 was really good for that. but i wouldn't really want to put that kind of stress on something with a swash plate design anyway, which is what the 4ch model is using.
i don't personally own the S800G, i went straight from the S107 to a hobby-grade heli. they're certainly more expensive, and the learning curve is much steeper... but so much more agile and fun to fly.
i went with the Blade mSR first, it's a fixed pitch heli. the new design did away with the flybar, which makes it more agile.
http://www.bladehelis.com/Product...ID=BLH3250
then i stepped into the collective pitch helis with the Blade mCPx, it will do 3D flying. the learning curve is very steep on this guy... it's very fast and powerful for such a small heli, inside flight is doable if you're very good... but i'd learn outside, lots of room to correct
http://www.bladehelis.com/Product...ID=BLH3680
as for controllers, i went with the DX5e first... which was a mistake, just jump to the DX6i first if you have multiple helis to control with it.
http://www.spektrumrc.com/product...id=spm6600

it's a pricey hobby, for sure, but wow they're fun to fly.

Quote from psyctto : ah, yeah the S107 was really good for that. but i wouldn't really want to put that kind of stress on something with a swash plate design anyway, which is what the 4ch model is using. i don't personally own the S800G, i went straight from the S107 to a hobby-grade heli. they're certainly more expensive, and the learning curve is much steeper... but so much more agile and fun to fly. i went with the Blade mSR first, it's a fixed pitch heli. the new design did away with the flybar, which makes it more agile. http://www.bladehelis.com/Product...ID=BLH3250 then i stepped into the collective pitch helis with the Blade mCPx, it will do 3D flying. the learning curve is very steep on this guy... it's very fast and powerful for such a small heli, inside flight is doable if you're very good... but i'd learn outside, lots of room to correct http://www.bladehelis.com/Product...ID=BLH3680 as for controllers, i went with the DX5e first... which was a mistake, just jump to the DX6i first if you have multiple helis to control with it. http://www.spektrumrc.com/product...id=spm6600 it's a pricey hobby, for sure, but wow they're fun to fly.

Will the DX6 control the knock off $45 911's?

Quote from 68droptop : Will the DX6 control the knock off $45 911's?

unfortunetly, no it won't.
you need a DSM/DSM2 reciever to work with the Spektrum transmitters. all hobby grade things are like this, receiver has to match the transmitter.