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Not sure why it matters, an OS by itself is rather useless. As long as it runs the apps I want, I could care less if it calls itself XP, 7, 8 or some odd breed of cat.
I didn't move to 7 until it came bundled with a laptop and I don'e see myself buying another one anytime soon. Most companies just recently got convinced to update from XP to 7, I doubt they will change up everything just yet to stay current. |
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Like I say ..tell them to go with the latest service pack. it's Vista (original) .. 7 (SP1).. 8(SP2). |
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8 will allow a company to see the most benefits. Heck it got Hyper V built in, Direct Access, Branch cache, and Powershell 3.0 built in. Not to mention the better security. Companies know the world is going mobile (Tablets/phones/laptops)...how do you secure it? A: Server 2012 Enterprise/Windows 8 Enterprise Training easy...same interface. Same centralized security via AD. You do realize all platforms run FULL Windows 8 not some mobile OS. Microsoft will reign supreme once again...bye Apple see ya...VMWare nice knowing you.... Avast/Norton/McAfee later. Thats what happens after the shackles of Anti-trust go bye bye.... Heck Windows 8 even has a full Anivirus now. Just think of the restraints they were under for nine years... they have some serious market share to grab back. They know how to win...they've done it before. Last edited by boltman2007; 08-17-2012 at 03:39 PM.. |
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But you have your opinion and I have mine, we will just have to agree to disagree. I don't want any hard feelings between us, and I do respect your opinion. |
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The thing is though... xp and 2003 are going away in essence in 2014 (No more MS update support) so just about every company WILL have to adapt VERY SOON.... is it Linux clients, apple clients? Doubt it although every network will run some Linux servers most likely. Is it Windows 7/8 for the average workstation user/small business?... most definitely. Windows 8 is easier than XP, Vista or 7..... it'll be the least painful to change to. Inherently better and more secure than any previous MS client OS. There really isn't that much of a learning curve going from XP to 8...for an end user. Microsoft knows what they are doing... that is why they are confidently killing XP (The most successful OS ever) About time they got it all straightened out. Just in time really. Vista was a BOLD/NECESSARY step forward... not without pitfalls and growing pains. Now they've had time to re-invent Windows based on Vista's new much better security model and x64 support. Vista was a good OS on the drawing board...it just wasn't quite ready for prime-time nor was the hardware. Now it is ready....they just streamlined it in 7 and re-imagined/streamlined Vista further in Windows 8. MS bravo.... you are relevant and exciting once again. Last edited by boltman2007; 08-17-2012 at 04:46 PM.. |
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See it's not sexy to hype what works and everyone uses... day in day out. That'd be like me being a cheer leader for XP.... we just tend to let total and complete market saturation speak for itself. I'm just letting the public know from an expert... windows 8 rocks and NOT to listen to the Metro nay-sayers and the I can't change I want START button dribble. Last edited by boltman2007; 08-17-2012 at 06:04 PM.. |
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Windows 8 is essentially a game changer...just like XP...just like 95....and originally Windows 3.1. A significant milestone and not a minor release. It will catch the public's attention no doubt in my mind. But then again I could just be making this all up for fun..who really knows? BTW.. 3 MILLION+ Surface tablets being produced for launch...Windows 8 will be everywhere soon. They would not place that big of an order unless they knew it will work. This is BIG.... Server 2012 + Windows 8...you watch. Between that and Office 365...Microsoft will rebound in a big way. Kinda weird its so low key right now...calm before the storm. Ultrabooks/Surface/Phones all with Windows 8. 7 will be a distant memory soon. Last edited by boltman2007; 08-17-2012 at 10:10 PM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost |
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There's something to be said for operating systems that respond instantaneously.
Between 8 being lighter than 7, and the constant hardware power increases as of late, 8 might turn out to be the first Windows OS that doesn't keep us waiting for almost everything we do, be it opening a webpage or perusing data. Combine that with a touchscreen that gives the user numerous advantageous, like how much tougher the surface is. I can't tell you how many poking fingers I've wanted to chop off as they darted over and poked my soft surfaced monitors. Then there are situational things like you're standing up next to your machine and a Skype call comes in, while your hands are covered in jelly doughnut dust and you really don't want to grab your mouse and muck it up, but when you have a touchscreen, your one clean finger, knuckle, etc, will do fine. You may think I'm joking, but I'm not. It's so much easier to deal with stuff like that when you're out of position. Heck, sometimes I can't even find my mouse and the puter's bellowing out "dring dring". There are times when touch is just so much more practical and/or fun, so that's another bonus. I'm pretty good with a mouse as most people are, but when it comes to surfing up and down a webpage, or looking at pix, zooming in and out, it's often simpler to just reach out and do it with your fingers. All this to say that Windows 8 machines may turn out to be the first group of machines that are what we always wanted our computers to be, with instantaneous response and the fun and convenience of touchscreens. |
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I really hated Metro at first like everyone else. Now I find it saves me time and displays my information in a nicer more refined format. I too thought initially this is crazy what is Microsoft doing but I reserved my judgement until final release. Windows 8 is an excellent OS.... it will break the mold of what a computer can be. It is optimized to run on virtually anything, its polished, fast and secure. There will be resistance to change, I love windows 7 but at every chance I get I boot into 8. Its better by a large margin. Its so good I find myself using IE again and Bing search. They have revamped everything. I find I'm done much quicker because I can just go from desktop to Metro to check everything out. It is no longer like two separate desktops, they are one big integrated one because of the speed of Windows 8... there is no lag. Plus with live tile you don't necessary have to open up an icon. In essence Microsoft has put all the previously clunky technology like "live" desktop into a streamlined fast OS. Windows 8 on its own shuts down unnecessary services and apps, it gets out of the way so a user can view content. Last edited by boltman2007; 08-18-2012 at 07:59 AM.. |
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I have not played with Windows 8 but if the UI changes are dramatic, enterprise market will be VERY slow to adapt.
Workers don't like change and many organizations are still on XP. Hell the company I worked for was still using IE 6 because certain legacy apps wouldn't work with newer versions. |
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Me was a hybrid of 98/2000 rushed to market for the new century... MS was already working on XP at the time and Me was an ugly stepchild. Vista was a necessary security overhaul its issues stemmed from needing video support, more hard drive space and forcing it onto computers designed for XP..had you used Vista on a proper platform it was a good OS. On lesser computers XP was faster, made Vista seem slow. The average user does not put security over speed. MS lost their lunch over Vista's rollout fiasco and was being hammered by antitrust rules...which are now GONE! That's why 8 gets an Antivirus built in now. Windows 8 is the most significant OS MS has come out with since XP.... it is refined 3rd generation Vista with a new re-invention of Windows. The difference is IT WORKS BETTER than its predecessors (7, Vista and XP). You could not say that for either Vista nor Me..... its not a minor release. The public will clamor for a faster better windows and MS will sell it CHEAP! Also have NEW cutting edge hardware to support it. That means Windows 8 will be a VERY VERY successful OS. I'm going to laugh when all the naysayers here are running it on at least 4-5 devices..and integrating it into their Xbox360's. I think MS's strategy is to have TWO decent client OS's available when they pull the plug on XP. One more traditional solid and one cutting edge chic. That way they cover just about any user on all their devices. While at the same time taking out their competition that grew during their antitrust years. You watch.. VMWARE, Chrome, Apple, other antivirus vendors, Skype, Android (Google), drop box and many others will LOSE out. I would not be surprised to see MS's market share reach all time highs. They will be laughing all the way to the bank. The only reason Android and Apple grew was because of the antitrust penalties that stifled MS innovation. That was then this is now. Heck your touch aware TV might run windows 8 in the future. Microsoft's whole universe is switching to a Metro style... look at Skydrive it has a new metro look, look at Hotmail now Outlook.com all Metro and in a position eventually to topple GMAIL. Look a BING going Metro too. The gloves are OFF and MS is pretty PO'd about watching others thrive. My money is on them....they want a Metro world and you will follow. If I were Google I'd be concerned with BING.... MS does not like to lose they've been planning thier resurgence for a decade...just waiting for the anti trust penalties to go away. Two more months of silence then WALL TO WALL in your face Windows 8 , Server 2012 and Office 2013...the first true secure CLOUD based trifecta. Windows 8 reminds me of Windows 95 and its dominance at the time.... new interface, stand alone product (thats where the beloved START menu came from) and much better performance over the 3.0 and 3.1 "shells installed after DOS"(which were successful in their own right especially 3.1 = Windows 7). Which all were much better than DOS = xp.... for those who lived through that time frame you know how 95 took over. Windows 8 is very similar almost 17 years later another 3rd generation improvement (Once again the START menu has changed) I would expect Windows 9 and 10 (98,98se) to be better incrementally and minor in significance until the next big thing....Windows 11 (completely new kernel)?? which will bring something completely new like XP (NT 32-bit kernel) or 3.0(Usable 16-bit GUI )...those were the jumps from usable 16 to 32 bit. Vista should have been similar (Jump to usable 64 bit) yet tried to do too much at once...so it'll forever be bad mouthed and lumped in with Windows Me (wrongly as it was a decent OS). That's the true MS cycle from one who lived through every release first hand. I applaud Microsoft for being so very decisive in their new bold direction. Last edited by boltman2007; 08-18-2012 at 11:58 AM.. |
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