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Quote from rockyct : That's just foolish to say a company shouldn't't compete where the market is headed. Win8 is an excellent tablet OS and most people will even admit that. The desktop PC is no longer the focus for Windows and that is the only way for Microsoft to remain a player in the computing industry. Apple has succeeded in the tablet world because there was no one else making a good tablet OS until recently. Jelly Bean finally makes Android a player and Amazon is picking up momentum. Apple dominated because they were the only real player, not because their OS is perfect. Their UI is quite dated at this point, so of course it would be a joke to put it on the desktop.

If anyone shouldn't be trusted to know "where the market is headed" it's Microsoft. Their history is littered with brainstorms they had that didn't pan out, and when that happened, they just bought a company that had it right. I'm a Windows user, but I'd trust Apple to know where the "marked is headed" a LOT sooner than Microsoft, because Apple INVENTED the segment, blew the doors off it, and is STILL leading it by a crushing margin. Microsoft might have a general clue where the market is headed by streaming Apple conference calls, but they sure don't know how to get in on that party, and Win8 proves it.

Quote from gaijin4life : Well, here's a collection with a "few" titles in it. Big name titles. Industry standard titles. http://www.adobe.com/products/cre...specs.html •Microsoft® Windows® XP* with Service Pack 3 or Windows 7 with Service Pack 1 What's missing? Hmmm... Uh, no, it's not. There are substantial differences in the framework. Vista blows. Win7 does not.

It works on Vista. It's just not listed there for some reason. Apparently it's not "officially" supported but it works.

What does it matter? Vista is super old and any computer that runs Vista can run 7 and they can afford it if they're going to be running those super expensive adobe programs.

Also, it's not officially supported not because "it's a mess" but because it has so few users running the Adobe software. Really, Vista SP2 and 7 SP1 are very VERY close under the hood.

Why don't you just run a little experiment and install Vista SP2 on a system that runs 7 fine. It will run just as well.

Quote from petard : It works on Vista. It's just not listed there for some reason. Apparently it's not "officially" supported but it works. What does it matter? Vista is super old and any computer that runs Vista can run 7 and they can afford it if they're going to be running those super expensive adobe programs. Also, it's not officially supported not because "it's a mess" but because it has so few users running the Adobe software. Really, Vista SP2 and 7 SP1 are very VERY close under the hood.

You asked, I showed you. I don't care what your excuse is to explain it away, but it's OFFICIALLY THERE. XP and Win 7 supported, Vista not supported. on a MAJOR app suite. The end, by your original terms.

Quote from gaijin4life : You asked, I showed you. I don't care what your excuse is to explain it away, but it's OFFICIALLY THERE. XP and Win 7 supported, Vista not supported. on a MAJOR app suite. The end, by your original terms.

No, you just changed the argument to something that supports you. I said that 7 is Vista without the FUD. You then say it's garbage and no longer supported because it's a mess. I ask for a list of programs that don't support it. You list one developer. You use that developers non-support of Vista as the reason that it is a bad product. That is not sound logic.

Go to Adobe's own site

http://blogs.adobe.com/photoshopd...eyond.html

From the site
"I think I explained why. There was still a good chunk of our user base that was still using XP – though that number is expected to dwindle rapidly over the few years. Vista use was tiny compared to Win 7 and XP. Unfortunately, users didn’t flock to Vista."

Right there they state why its dropped. It's simply because not enough users use the platform to support it. Same reason they don't support Linux.

You are too biased to even bother arguing with. You won't change your mind. I'm done with this thread.

Quote from petard : I'm done with this thread.

Best thing you've said all day.

Cheers.

Will Metro retain the best feature ever, the random desktop icon shuffle?

You spend forever grouping your stuff on the desktop and bam, upper left-justified, sorted by WTF

Quote from deshwasi : nice review. if i have multiple monitors can i use 2 apps on the 2 screens? hopefully virtual desk software still works as intended. is the $175 cheapest technet std available to download this? not in the mood to install trial first then wipe/reinstall in 3 months. i have a few touchscreen machines so want to put at least on those. is technet std still 10+ installs ? and is there an immediate delivery option for technet purchase?

Did you get an answer on how many installs per product you get? I think you found the cheapest price at Cost Central and Amazon.