Mitsubishi 60" Class 1080p 3D-Ready DLP HDTV - $499.99 + $69.99 Shipping + Tax

Quote from mrlocalhost : I'm a reward zone silver member. btw, anyone know if you still need a transmitter to get 3d on these sets?

Quote from jmor : yes you do

You actually don't. There are infrared 3D glasses, which require the transmitter, then there are DLP Link 3d glasses, which do not require them, and which I believe are actually better any way.

The DLP Link glasses will work straight out of the box with all Mitsu 3D TV's.
I have a pair of these http://www.amazon.com/Optoma-BG-Z...B003Q96CCC btw.

Quote from theagent : You actually don't. There are infrared 3D glasses, which require the transmitter, then there are DLP Link 3d glasses, which do not require them, and which I believe are actually better any way. The DLP Link glasses will work straight out of the box with all Mitsu 3D TV's. I have a pair of these http://www.amazon.com/Optoma-BG-Z...B003Q96CCC btw.

wow. thanks for the input. can i ask how it works without the transmitter?

i see these for cheaper and for two! i might bite.

http://www.amazon.com/DLP-LINK-3D...3d+glasses

Quote from jmor : wow. thanks for the input. can i ask how it works without the transmitter?

This explains it pretty well. http://www.tru3d.com/technology/3...nk%20Works

I have the 65" Mitsu, and the 3D looks great. No ghosting or other issues. The glasses I linked to are great... they are bulky however, and you cannot have a lamp on behind you, very annoying reflection if you do.

Quote from theagent : This explains it pretty well. http://www.tru3d.com/technology/3...nk%20Works I have the 65" Mitsu, and the 3D looks great. No ghosting or other issues. The glasses I linked to are great... they are bulky however, and you cannot have a lamp on behind you, very annoying reflection if you do.

thank you...

Quote from sklar : I think I'll just put you on the ignore list. Yes, the DMD chip can fail in any dlp tv set. About .05% of the time. So yes, a few people may report the problem. Everything breaks. Its not an endemic problem, or anything that anyone should worry about. Which if you were objective about your 'searching', you'd have seen that its a rare issue outside of the bad run of chips from 4 freaking years ago. In fact, I could only find a handful of people reporting this issue when I did look to see if there was something I missed earlier. Even with the bad chips, you had a small chance of the failure occurring. I'm sure you'll be quoted by other people, so I'll make sure when you "report" this again, that I correct the bad information. Because yes, I do get stubborn over people spreading misinformation that could result in people missing out on a great deal.

Feel free to ignore me, you could have done that from the beginning instead of being a paint in the ass. I'm not spreading misinformation, I'm just trying to create informed consumers. Hiding the facts won't help.

Quote from Chozer : Indeed you post a 60" Plasma for 500 and I am getting one.

There is a 50" LG plasma with 600hz refresh rate and 3 million to 1 contrast ratio for 599.

Also an LED 55" (not branded) for 599

Cheapest 60" plasma with 600hz refresh rate and 3 mil contrast ratio was posted for 849-899.

There are a ton of plasmas around 300-700 range for 50" and from 600-900 for 55-60". Still a decent deal on the dlp, but if you watch sports I think it's worth spending the extra money. Not downplaying DLP, DLP still has one of the best display technologies, but a plasma is better for viewing in a bright room + sports.

This deal is essentially 600 plus including shipping and taxes.

This TV would be perfect for my parents who are in the market for a big screen TV and don't necessarily need the latest LED or plasma. The only thing preventing me from recommending it to them was the $70 shipping charge. However, we were just at Best Buy and were able to order for free delivery to home. The $70 shipping is waived only if you order it from the store and not online. This may be YMMV as the Best Buy associate mentioned not every store may be able to ship it for free.

Quote from jmor : wow. thanks for the input. can i ask how it works without the transmitter?

DLP link embeds the 3d signal in the video stream, and works with many recent dlp projectors and tv sets. I have 3 pair of the ~$50 dlp link glasses sold on amazon. They work great. I've had them for almost a year on the original batteries.

Quote from tspx23 : Not downplaying DLP, DLP still has one of the best display technologies, but a plasma is better for viewing in a bright room + sports.

Two thing that were true of some DLP sets years ago. Current DLP technology works as well as plasma and LED/LCD in a bright room, and since there is zero motion blur with a DLP set, they're as good or better for sports than plasma and lcd/led.

In any case I wouldn't buy a plasma tv unless I owned the local utility company. A 60" plasma will pull 2-3x the electricity required by any size DLP set, and put out a commensurate additional amount of heat that your air conditioning will have to pull out of the room. With my top tier electric rate running 45c/kwh, I think I'll have to pass on that.

just want add my opinion, we have a WD-60C9 now 2 years old and on the same bulb....knock on wood, I have spare ready and they are only $99 from Mitsubishi.

We love the set, it is in our family room and we have no problems watching with the afternoon sun blaring though our west facing windows. this is a great deal imo.

On a side note, I replaced an RCA 50 inch dlp from 2005, that one is now in the basement on the same bulb.

The only thing I recommend on this set is to vacuum it out every year or so. seems to have helped mine live, perhaps?

Quote from sklar : Two thing that were true of some DLP sets years ago. Current DLP technology works as well as plasma and LED/LCD in a bright room, and since there is zero motion blur with a DLP set, they're as good or better for sports than plasma and lcd/led. In any case I wouldn't buy a plasma tv unless I owned the local utility company. A 60" plasma will pull 2-3x the electricity required by any size DLP set, and put out a commensurate additional amount of heat that your air conditioning will have to pull out of the room. With my top tier electric rate running 45c/kwh, I think I'll have to pass on that.

Really? the new 3rd gen plasmas use 200-300 watts of power, similar to that of dlp. not to mention led lcd is lower.

and i don't think a dlp will ever have a contrast ratio in the millions.

i'm not really arguing that dlp is worse in terms of quality, just the fact is it isn't as bright, and the black levels are not superior to other technology. yes obviously you can still watch a dlp tv in the daylight but next to a plasma/lcd set it won't have deep black levels or appear AS bright.

I just want to point out that unless you want to go really big (70-80 inch size) the difference in price isn't really that big. So unless you truly prefer DLP over plasma/lcd this is worth it.

LOL there is nothing better than stocking a few hundred dollars of replacement parts for your TV that is eventually going to fail. I did it with a couple of DLP's at the turn of the century. Never again

Bulbs, boards and wheels, oh my.

Quote from tspx23 : Really? the new 3rd gen plasmas use 200-300 watts of power, similar to that of dlp. not to mention led lcd is lower.

My 73" dlp uses 180 watts on full bright with a rather white scene on it. My dads 60" plasma uses 380. Measured with a kill-a-watt. Show me a $600 plasma with better PQ and similar energy usage. Some expensive plasmas use less than 300 watts at a 60" size, but I don't think any anywhere near this price.

Quote : and i don't think a dlp will ever have a contrast ratio in the millions.

Hmm, I see the videophiles at avsforum preferring the dlp sets (and loving this one) with no complaints. So unless the numbers in the chart game produces a better result, I'll stick with the much cheaper, much larger dlp set that uses less energy and makes an awesome picture. A large contrast ratio loses its luster in a typical viewing area where things in the room are reflected in the tv's screen. Plus most cheap plasmas dont have a contrast ratio in the millions. I doubt the high end ones really do either...

Quote : i'm not really arguing that dlp is worse in terms of quality, just the fact is it isn't as bright, and the black levels are not superior to other technology. yes obviously you can still watch a dlp tv in the daylight but next to a plasma/lcd set it won't have deep black levels or appear AS bright.

True years ago. Not really that big of a deal today. I get great blacks and whites and have absolutely no problems with brightness in a very highly daylit room. Its better than my 60" sharp lcd, better than my 48" led set, better than my old crt rear projection, and better than my dads plasma. These myths persist, but I don't think they're really relevant in the average living room.

Quote : I just want to point out that unless you want to go really big (70-80 inch size) the difference in price isn't really that big. So unless you truly prefer DLP over plasma/lcd this is worth it.

I'll repeat, show me a $600 plasma (or anything else) that will give you a better picture quality in the average living room. The non DLP sets at that price point are not very good.

Going to stay out of the whole DLP vs the world debate, for me, the bang for buck DLP still can't be beat.

But here's my question - is this set with 3D worth it over the 73" from Dell? I have Discover card, so would get 5% cashback here, or 10% cashback on the 73". Unfortunately, living in TX, there is no way around the 8.25% tax both stores tho, bleh.

But if space isn't an issue, would you rather have the 3D, or the extra 13" of screen space?

Quote from sklar : My 73" dlp uses 180 watts on full bright with a rather white scene on it. My dads 60" plasma uses 380. Measured with a kill-a-watt. Show me a $600 plasma with better PQ and similar energy usage. Some expensive plasmas use less than 300 watts at a 60" size, but I don't think any anywhere near this price.

Yep, heres a nice chart showing the electricity usage per square inch for various representative technologies.

http://reviews.cnet.com/green-tec...ion-chart/

This mitsu set uses .117 watts per square inch, although a pair of their 65" units are in the chart. There is one plasma sort of nearby, but most are in the .28 to .41 range, with some using .5 and up. If you sort by watts/square inch, of the top 19 in energy consumption 16 are plasmas. In the top 20...only 1.