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Question in the event of a fire evacuation are your leased equipment boxes on your list of things to grab?
In the event of a fire evacuation are your leased equipment boxes on your emergency list of things to grab on the way out? I recently read an article where people had their houses burned down in a raging wild fire and their host providers wanted to charge them thousand of dollars for the loss.Verizon: Sorry About Devastating Fire, Pay Us $2,345 [dslreports.com] Last edited by ReverseHandedJO; 10-02-2012 at 08:42 AM.. whats trending right now >>> Slickdeals Live View Feed TWC charging $3.95 to lease their cable modem - buy your own modem discussion if someone steals food from your lunch in the refrigerator at work, just make some yummy tempting cookies with laxatives in them. then just wait to see who gets the runs! that person wont ever steal anything from your lunch ever again!!! O.O |
| 10-02-2012, 03:24 AM | |
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A. Homeowners insurance should cover it.
B. Legally they can only recoup the present day value, with depreciation, of the item. C. In event of a fire, grab your pets and kids, not your electronics. D. I'm not a lawyer in real life, I only play one on TV.
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wow that's a real shitty thing to do. Although I can imagine that this has happened, I can't imagine that the customers actually had to pay what the providers thought was the "real" value of the items. |
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E finita la cuccagna
Politics may not be the oldest profession but the results are the same. |
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This reminds me of a story I heard about one person lending another $200. The borrower was robbed on the way home that day. When the time came for the $200 to be repaid to the lender, the borrower replied that didn't the lender remember about the robbery? Of course the lender did but that is immaterial to the loan. It is still owed. Your legal and moral obligations do not go away because of a tragedy. |
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EDIT: PS, your argument is a straw man. The discussion here isn't about whether the customer is financially responsible for the equipment. Instead it's about the value at which the company should assess the equipment and whether that is, not only fair and reasonable, but also legally valid. Last edited by brbubba; 10-02-2012 at 08:51 AM.. |
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Also realize that most of these "horror" stories you read are automated billing activities that occur when certain conditions exist. I suspect most of those are reduced or removed when a human gets involved. At times it may take a news story to convince the provider to make the "human" choice. |
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There is no legal obligation associated with a bill unless a court orders you to pay $XXX to the company. A bill from Verizon is not a legally binding document. Automated as far as first tier customer support. But yes, most of these do seem to fall within that type of a situation which is why you should file a BBB report right out of the gate if customer service isn't getting you anywhere. It will at least elevate you to a higher tier of support. |
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While the "bill" itself is a civil matter between you and who gives you the bill, you agreed to a legal contract and that contract states you owe x amount. This is the definition of a "legal" obligation. Regardless, they can and will make your life miserable if you do not pay. I suppose you could pay it and then sue for it back, but not sure the court would find for you in that case. If Verizon does sue for what they think you owe, they will simply show the contract that you agreed to and the court will find for them. You have very little chance of winning were this type of case to ever actually make it in front of a judge. But of course Verizon wouldn't sue you. It would go to a collection agency, then another, then another, then a collection attorney, then they would enter a default judgement against you, then your credit is screwed, etc, etc. There is a chance however that the court would reduce what they think the used equipment is worth if you could in fact get to court on this. And you do know that the "BBB" is a joke organization right? You do know that it is a private company with no right to do anything to anyone right? In fact, I don't even think Verizon is a member of these jokes. Most legitimate companies are not. |
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Correct, it would go to a collection agency, so you would have to proactively sue Verizon in small claims court. Verizon is an accredited member of the BBB and most "legitimate" companies are members of the BBB. Yes, the BBB does not have any legal sway or authority to take action against a company. Worst case scenario they would just remove the company's accreditation, but I'm sure they would avoid that for the right fee. |
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