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I keep hearing everyone say that Win 8 is faster upon boot and, overall, faster but I am running the Win 8 release preview on a system with a quad-core processor and 8GBs of RAM and I have noticed absolutely no difference in speed over my primary 7 install. I, personally, see absolutely NO reason to "upgrade". For those that do, More power to you but I will stick with 7 and I am usually the first to jump on any new OS release. I guess I've been burned by doing so a few too many times (Vista being a huge burn). It is really sad that, even at this price point, I just can't find one thing to make me want to go for it.

I agree. I have a Core i7 with 12 GB ram. I ran a dual boot with Windows 7 on an OCZ SSD and Windows 8 CP on a Corsair SSD and boot times were EXACTLY the same. No performance difference what-so-ever. And I hated Windows 8. Metro, or what used to be called Metro, sucks without a touch screen. I do not like using keyboard shortcuts, and using a mouse with Windows 8 is awkward to say the least. Without a touch screen, and with no performance difference, there is no reason to upgrade to Windows 8.

I agree. I have a Core i7 with 12 GB ram. I ran a dual boot with Windows 7 on an OCZ SSD and Windows 8 CP on a Corsair SSD and boot times were EXACTLY the same. No performance difference what-so-ever. And I hated Windows 8. Metro, or what used to be called Metro, sucks without a touch screen. I do not like using keyboard shortcuts, and using a mouse with Windows 8 is awkward to say the least. Without a touch screen, and with no performance difference, there is no reason to upgrade to Windows 8.

Using a mouse with 8 is no harder than it is with 7. The only thing that is more difficult to get to with a mouse is the shutdown function. Everything else is just as easy and I ask you to give me examples of where it's not.

What is more difficult exactly? There is no difference during normal usage... but I'm curious what you feel is more difficult for you? Also, keyboard shortcuts would be good to learn if you want to be more productive, but hey, maybe you are happy being slow at computing tasks?

Ok, both arguments here are that it is really no different than 7. I have to ask, If it is really no different than 7, then why upgrade???

Also, we all have different ways in which we work. One way may be quicker than another for some folks but not for others. I know this is a hard concept to grasp for some but we are all different, with different needs and opinions. If one way works for one person, Why should they have to change that to upgrade to an OS that is barely different from the OS they already have (Assuming Metro is disabled, and I would say that is a safe bet since the poster said they hated Metro)???

No one said the OS itself is no different than 7. You may want to re-read the quotes. We're saying it is no more difficult to use with a mouse.

FOR YOU, It is no more difficult. You really need to understand that your experiences may not apply to another. I have been using computers, even programming, since age 5 and I find 8 to be a major pain. I've been around long enough to know that upgrading for the sake of upgrading alone is totally foolish. If 8 offered some major improvements over 7, there wouldn't be these arguments. Even many of the things that were improved simply aren't needed by many. When an OS is priced $40 and you still have people holding out on an upgrade, that often means they truly do not need that upgrade, whether some may disagree with them or not.

No, it just isn't more difficult, period. I have been using computers since I was 4 years old myself, and have been programming basic games & DOS programs since age ~6, now in my 20's I am a programmer and 3d modeler by trade. It really is fairly irrelevant however; if you are having trouble just adjusting to small interface tweaks, I can't picture how you can call your skill level any kind of decent at computer use.

Regarding 8 vs. 7, who cares? If you don't want it, don't upgrade, just don't complain that others like it and are. No one cares whether you're upgrading or not, or whether they're useful to you in particular. If they're useful to us, we're upgrading, and you people gnashing your teeth and whining that we are is just pointless thread clutter. There are a number of improvements, but it's not anyone's job to tell you whether or not you should upgrade; that exercise is left for the reader to explore.

I only like to comment when I feel I can add to the conversation. This one is a conversation I have to enter.

I don't really want to admit this, but I have an MSDN Subscription, and so I have the full-blown Windows 8 on my system.

I actually did an Upgrade from Windows 7, just to see how well it would work compared to wiping the drive and loading from scratch. I loaded it September 27 and I am still using it right now.

I can tell from the posts who here has actually used Win8 for any length of time and who hasn't. I can also tell which one of you is the Apple Fanboy Troll time-wasting thread-crapper.

Please check out my images.

Start Button? It took me a whole week to get over it, and now I don't miss it at all. The Metro screen is my Start Button now, and you use the Windows Key on the keyboard to access it, just like I did on Windows 7. You may not know that the "Apps" concept is just the "Start Menu" on a screen. Again, look at my images.

Desktop? I challenge anyone who saw my desktop on Win7 to tell the difference between it and my Win8 desktop. They look exactly the same, and work exactly the same. Oh, except for the Start Button (see above comment).

Faster? I'd say "about the same" as Win7, but I had 7 seriously tweaked for speed, so I expected it to be no faster. (I can operate msconfig and regedit better than I can operate my car.) It boots about the same and shuts down about the same, which is to say, really fast. I don't use sleep or hibernate, so I cannot speak to those.

Even though I am using two screens, I spent the first week using only one and there really isn't any difference. The Windows Key switches between the Metro and the Desktop effortlessly and immediately.

One last thing: I used both the Beta Win8 and the Pre-release Win8 and hated them, too. But that's the reason you do a Beta. As a programmer, I can tell you that we get tunnel-vision. What looks really cool to me makes my users want to vomit when I release my Beta. They punch me in the face, and I change the code. That's how it works. I would suggest if you are interested in Win8 and love Win7 like I do, find someone who has Win8 and sit down with them for a while and get a feel for it. You can decide for yourself.

Ok, both arguments here are that there is really "no difference" and it is "just as easy" as 7. I have to ask, If it is really no different and just as easy as 7, then why "upgrade"???

Also, we all have different ways in which we work. One way may be quicker than another for some folks but not for others. I know this is a hard concept to grasp for some but we are all different, with different needs and opinions. If one way works for one person, Why should they have to change that to upgrade to an OS that is barely different from the OS they already have (Assuming Metro is disabled, and I would say that is a safe bet since the poster said they hated Metro)???

Where are your examples of more work. On my installs win 8 is slighlty faster, certainly so out of hte box 7 vs out of the box 8.. i can use it exactly as win 7 when I want and win 8 as I want.
Also the drive pooling is a killer feature.
As far as my computer knowledge I have been using personal computers since BEFORE DOS. My Kaypro still works (and is worth triple what I paid for it)

I agree. I have a Core i7 with 12 GB ram. I ran a dual boot with Windows 7 on an OCZ SSD and Windows 8 CP on a Corsair SSD and boot times were EXACTLY the same. No performance difference what-so-ever. And I hated Windows 8. Metro, or what used to be called Metro, sucks without a touch screen. I do not like using keyboard shortcuts, and using a mouse with Windows 8 is awkward to say the least. Without a touch screen, and with no performance difference, there is no reason to upgrade to Windows 8.

No, it just isn't more difficult, period. I have been using computers since I was 4 years old myself, and have been programming basic games & DOS programs since age ~6, now in my 20's I am a programmer and 3d modeler by trade. It really is fairly irrelevant however; if you are having trouble just adjusting to small interface tweaks, I can't picture how you can call your skill level any kind of decent at computer use.

Regarding 8 vs. 7, who cares? If you don't want it, don't upgrade, just don't complain that others like it and are. No one cares whether you're upgrading or not, or whether they're useful to you in particular. If they're useful to us, we're upgrading, and you people gnashing your teeth and whining that we are is just pointless thread clutter. There are a number of improvements, but it's not anyone's job to tell you whether or not you should upgrade; that exercise is left for the reader to explore.