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Lowes - recessed lighting cans Utilitech 4" Airtight IC New Construct 6-Pack 50% off

kasak 226 October 16, 2012 at 02:44 PM in Home & Home Improvement (2) More Lowes Deals
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Last Edited by widgit October 17, 2012 at 03:06 AM
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Utilitech 4" Airtight IC New Construct 6-Pack
Item #: 290215 | Model #: Y99ICAT
50% off - now $45.82 - regularly $91.64
I like the 4" cans than the 6". But the trim and bulbs for 4" are so friggin expensive. Looking for a good deal on trim/led bulbs/kits to go in 32 of these 4" cans I installed.

Link [lowes.com]

All Atlanta area stores have it for 50% off.

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Quote from kasak View Post :
Nice. thank you. Can you suggest what dimmable lights can I get? LEDs are expensive and I want to wait at least until thanksgiving or few more months to see if the price comes down. There is another deal posted for the HD Ecosmart 6" LEDs (CREE) which are $25 for California folks. Wish I could get those for that price here. 4" EcoSmart are like $40 a piece. Need 15 6" for basement and 34 4".
I read about some flickering problems for LEDs and problems with some dimmer switches. Dimmable CFLs a cheaper option? Do those dimmable switches cost less?

I wouldn't recommend CFLs. I personally hate them. It takes a relatively long time for them to reach full brightness, dimmable ones are (or at least used to be - haven't installed them in a while) expensive, the bulbs never last as long as advertised and they contain mercury. I don't know anybody who uses them anymore since LEDs became more popular. But then again, it's just my opinion...
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picked up 4 packs of these.

Now the question is, can this work if its not new construction? Can this be installed without going through attack? Can I remove the box around the unit to make it more slim profile?
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Quote from flyhigh123 View Post :
picked up 4 packs of these.

Now the question is, can this work if its not new construction? Can this be installed without going through attack? Can I remove the box around the unit to make it more slim profile?
Without attic access or removing the drywall from the ceiling there really is no way to make these work. Removing the box will at minimum make these NON-IC Rated and depending on construction could make them a fire hazard. For installation without removal of drywall you are pretty much limited to the following style can.
http://www.usalight.com/4-Miniatu...104rat.htm

If attic access is not available then I would strongly suggest removing the drywall from the ceiling and install the cans and all the wiring and then hang new drywall.
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I got over my affection for 4" cans after I had to skip eating for a couple weeks to pay for the trims.

Why are they more expensive? Once you deviate from the "standard" 6" cans, you're into "specialty" items, and you pay the price.

Yes, the 6" are more common, so manufacturing costs go down, but we're talking about a plasic cone and ring, and once you've created the molds, the production costs should be lower because you're using less raw materials...

Welcome to the marketplace. If people pay fori it, they'll keep charging that much...

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I wouldn't recommend CFLs. I personally hate them. It takes a relatively long time for them to reach full brightness, dimmable ones are (or at least used to be - haven't installed them in a while) expensive, the bulbs never last as long as advertised and they contain mercury. I don't know anybody who uses them anymore since LEDs became more popular. But then again, it's just my opinion...
Dimmable CFLs are junk. I find they take at least 10 mins to achieve whatever brightness level you set and the range that you can adjust their brightness is very small.
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Anyone in ATL area needs 5 of these packs, PM me. I will let you know which store I will be returning the boxes. I got them to return them on previous receipts that were at full or 25% off pricce.
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what is the benefit of the 4" cans vs the 6" ?
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#23
Quote from yagru View Post :
what is the benefit of the 4" cans vs the 6" ?
personal choice. I think they look better than the 6" cans. 6" is too large for recessed lighting. I guess depends on the height of ceiling as well.
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I haven't found any deals for dimmable led / cfl bulbs. I'm planning to use par30 halogens. For the dimmer switch I am using this Insteon dimmer [smarthome.com]. I'm using the ELK M1 gold with the Insteon Interface for my home security / automation.

To combat the higher energy use I plan is to use the room's motion sensor to determine if the room is occupied and then dim the lights after a couple minutes of no motion detection and then turn them off completely a couple minutes later.

When prices of LED spots with >1k lumens comes down to under $5 a bulb then I'll convert. Till then I'll just use halogens in my dimmers and CFLs in non dimmable fixtures.
To pass inspection I need to have 50% of my perm fixtures high efficacy, and CFL is crap. So, I went with these BR30 LEDs from Lowes for $20 - I may return them and go back to incandescent after inspection :-) - The cost return takes too long if lights aren't used enough.
http://www.lowes.com/pd_338929-24...facetInfo=
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FYI if willing to wait on shipping and are ok w/6" recessed, Amzn has an 8 pack for $20.
http://www.amazon.com/Thomas-Ligh...ting+PS7IC

I bought them last week when it was "just one left" for status, and they are working great.
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I wouldn't recommend CFLs. I personally hate them. It takes a relatively long time for them to reach full brightness, dimmable ones are (or at least used to be - haven't installed them in a while) expensive, the bulbs never last as long as advertised and they contain mercury. I don't know anybody who uses them anymore since LEDs became more popular. But then again, it's just my opinion...
That's just your opinion. The normal CFLs take a long time to bright up, but for those 2 pin/4pin ones, they just come up immediately, like the old single tube ones. And the mercury content is very small, unless you break the whole box of bulbs, you don't really need to be nervous about that amount of mercury. I spent less than $.10 for the normal CFLs, but have to pay $7 for the 4pin ones, but they last a long time, and still way cheaper than LED, I can't use LED in my 4pin housing anyways.
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Quote from quaff View Post :
To pass inspection I need to have 50% of my perm fixtures high efficacy, and CFL is crap. So, I went with these BR30 LEDs from Lowes for $20 - I may return them and go back to incandescent after inspection :-) - The cost return takes too long if lights aren't used enough.
http://www.lowes.com/pd_338929-24...facetInfo=
CFLs doesn't take one year to get the cost back. I'm not environmentalist, but just want to save money, at 12w-60w, 22w-100w ratio, you will save a lot, especially with the government/electric company subsidy for CFLs.
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That's just your opinion. The normal CFLs take a long time to bright up, but for those 2 pin/4pin ones, they just come up immediately, like the old single tube ones. And the mercury content is very small, unless you break the whole box of bulbs, you don't really need to be nervous about that amount of mercury. I spent less than $.10 for the normal CFLs, but have to pay $7 for the 4pin ones, but they last a long time, and still way cheaper than LED, I can't use LED in my 4pin housing anyways.
Do you need special housings or adapters for the 2/4pin ones? And and particular brand or model you recommend?
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Do you need special housings or adapters for the 2/4pin ones? And and particular brand or model you recommend?
I'm not expert on this topic, the housing was there when I bought the house, so I need to find the bulb. But for 2/4pin ones, they are like the old style fluorescent bulb, which needs a ballast. You can't put those bulbs in a screw base.
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Quote from randalsw View Post :
Without attic access or removing the drywall from the ceiling there really is no way to make these work. Removing the box will at minimum make these NON-IC Rated and depending on construction could make them a fire hazard. For installation without removal of drywall you are pretty much limited to the following style can.
http://www.usalight.com/4-Miniature-Non-IC-Remodel-Recessed-Housing-p/us-104rat.htm

If attic access is not available then I would strongly suggest removing the drywall from the ceiling and install the cans and all the wiring and then hang new drywall.
If attic access is available, can these be installed on existing ceiling?
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