If you are using a non-touch product (desktop and most notebooks), windows 8 is not for you. Simply put, losing the start menu is a severe blow to functionality, and turning off your PC takes about 4 steps.
The worst part of this is that the changes are not optional, but forced down on users by Microsoft.
My recommendation is to stay away, no matter the price.
Yeah, I know its so hard to press the Windows + I key and then hit Power ---> Shutdown.
Its basically the same steps as in the classic/Windows 7 shell, except instead of clicking the Start button, you are pressing Windows + I shortcut to bring up the settings charm.
Sooo difficult.. definitely the reason I would skip Windows 8. Its not like they made tons of improvements to all the other aspects of Windows that would warrant an upgrade.
What it boils down to is this... yes, it will take some getting used to, since things are radically different than the way they've been for years. However, if you take the time to play around with Windows 8 and actually learn the benefits of both the "Metro" and "classic" desktop, I think you'll learn to appreciate them.
This is just MS way to transition to the tablet business, they are taking a pretty big risk by trying to merge tablets and desktops, but the reasoning behind it makes sense, at least to me. Honestly, I hated Win 8 when I first installed the consumer preview. But now, many months later, and after installing the RTM version and playing around with it more, it's really beginning to make more sense to me why MS did this. And even though I rarely use the Metro interface, if MS can add more and more useful apps, I can even foresee myself using it more. For example, I'm already digging the Netflix app... it's actually much better than the MCE version IMO, and it finally has subtitles!!!!
I would think signing up with IEEE from the last deal was a way better deal than this since you're getting the full PRO version and you get the other software available as well. I was able to get 2 copies of Win8, though one I got as the Spanish version. Someone mentioned that the version doesn't matter and the key will work for the English one. The fee for membership was only 32 bucks student rate.
Since using it, I do not like it at all as a desktop version. This freakin windows 8 startup front page bs was made for tablets or touchscreens and people who don't want to use the desktop for work. If you open an app, any app, it goes to full screen. You can open another one but that's it and it is like 1/6th split. If you were to IM with people and wanted to work on a document, there is no way to do so from that start menu. If you wanted to run it as windows explorer you can but you have to switch to it.
For people who want to use it as an entertainment box, i would say the Start menu is fine. But honestly, if you like Windows 7, it's the same thing practically. The major flaw to this, they decided not to provide any start button. You can download a free version or pay for it. I found out they decided to remove the start button. They had it in the developer version. Now if you want to get a nice neat Start button instead of a free one, you can pay $5 for a nifty one. As for the apps, it's like the apps you use on your phones. Some of the apps contain ADs that are natively installed with Win8!
Now what the hell was MS thinking allowing ADs.. purely they only designed this for mobile tech it seems and decided we'll do the same for desktops now. I can see how we'll be sucked into the need to buy these Apps from an appstore. You'll start seeing the clusters of apps on that Start Menu.
Ok, enough ranting. final thought, for me, it just feels like Windows 7 and a tablet version start menu slapped on top. I use Explorer only now because I can't do much with the Start 'screen' especially if I open an app. I can't do anything else and would need to minimize/close the app to get to another app. Sure Windows Tab or Alt Tab will get me there but really, I thought that's why I bought a mouse so I wouldn't need to use the keyboard as much.
Not sure if you guys have seen that Google april fools joke where they showed the new app they came out with: Google Tap. This sort of feels like it, instead of forward thinking, this pretty much will put you back.
I did a fresh install of Windows 7 HP on my laptop in order to upgrade to Windows 8 and when I did so, the Windows 7 install hadn't yet been activated (of course I could still use the OEM key but I didn't) at the time since I didn't think I needed to.
When you bought your Hp notebook and started using it, it asked you to register and activate Win7. When you reinstall from recovery partition or disc, you do not need to activate Win7 again, because it is the same key.
a) looks like the double-install method won't work
- the double install method allows you to install windows 7 on top of itself, therefore "upgrading" itself
- this loophole was found out after the fact, and it looks like it was closed w/ Win8
b) looks like you must have a previous version of windows installed to start the upgrade process
- you cannot start fresh with just the serial key from the old machine
- also, the machine has to have an activated version of windows
c) however, you can format the drive during the upgrade process
- no files will be transferred to the new machine
i am getting this however. but my install method seems to be like this:
1) install win xp or win vista or win 7 (whichever legit key i have) onto a brand new hard drive
2) activate said older version
3) start the win8 upgrade process
4) during the upgrade process, system will restart, and then i will have the option of formatting the hdd before installing win 8
5) format, install win8 fresh
Based on Microsoft's own description, this can upgrade from Win XP, Vista, Win 7, or Win 8 Preview (beta test). I think they want everyone to upgrade, so you can download free Win 8 Preview and upgrade to released version of Win 8 Pro for $40. It is like offering amnesty to all computers.
It is OK if you lost your Windows disk or virus deleted your recovery partition.
It is OK if you are running Win NT/98/2K, Linux, or even Mac OS.
If there's anything i've learn with new software, don't be the first to jump on it. i learned this lesson with windows vista. that operating system was horrible. granted this may be good but i'll wait for the mass to try it out before i try it.
Well said, Mr. Le, well said. And hopefully the price won't go up when they do work any bugs out of it.
The store doesn't work for me it says server is down or my connection has issues. I was getting over that when it started crashing on anything I clicked on. Finally turned it off and the next day tried it and worked fine... The day after was doing the same thing until I did a complete shutdown for like 15 mins then it worked again. I know it's not the hardware because it worked great with win7.
My initial upgrade from Win7 had issues with the apps & store, although not exactly what you're describing. I tried fixing it for a day or so, but after none of the suggested fixes worked I just reformatted and installed it fresh. Everything since then has worked perfectly. I think there may be some bugs in the upgrade process, but a clean install seems to be the answer.
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