Man arrested for getting a slickdeal on car

Quote from kyotuosa : lol gj....now they gonna lose more than $5600.... Too bad it rewarded the jackass who refuse to pay.... I gess it's better be a jackass than a dumbass

The dealership made an honest mistake, but they did make a mistake and sold the car. They should have eaten the cost and chalked it up to experience. But no, they decided to go back to the guy and fight for the money they lost on a bad deal. How many people who bought a car from that dealer and overpaid 5600 would get their money back? Zero.

I hope the guy wins the suit and gets a million or two. It will send a clear message to all the dealerships that you can't screw or intimidate people.

Quote from StarNova : The dealership made an honest mistake, but they did make a mistake and sold the car. They should have eaten the cost and chalked it up to experience. But no, they decided to go back to the guy and fight for the money they lost on a bad deal. How many people who bought a car from that dealer and overpaid 5600 would get their money back? Zero. I hope the guy wins the suit and gets a million or two. It will send a clear message to all the dealerships that you can't screw or intimidate people.

What if this lawsuit caused the dealership to go out of business and everyone employed by the company lost their jobs? Still worth it?

Quote from happyhunting : So you're willing to take advantage of people as long as you don't get caught is what you're saying?

isn't that what most companies do nowadays? take advantage of the people as much as they can get away with? what's wrong with a person doing the opposite, taking advantage of a company as much as they can get away with (2.2 million)?

if for some reason the person paid an extra 5k, what would his options be if the company wasn't willing to work with him about it? sue them in court over a written contract?

Quote from CLKeenan : What if this lawsuit caused the dealership to go out of business and everyone employed by the company lost their jobs? Still worth it?

yes, that would be a great outcome - new opportunity for better a better company to take over what was left, and new opportunity for employees to find different jobs and advance their careers rather than continue to work at such a POS company that does the most it can to screw people over

Quote : In an interview Tuesday, Ellmer and Cummings said their staff never reported the SUV stolen and never asked for Sawyer to be arrested. They said they called police only for help locating the SUV while they pursued the civil action. After speaking with police Wednesday, however, Ellmer said he'd learned one of his managers, Brad Anderson, had indeed said the SUV was stolen. Kelly O'Sullivan, a spokeswoman for the Chesapeake Police Department, said the officer told Anderson in advance he was going to secure a warrant for Sawyer's arrest.

also lying about saying the car was "stolen" and knowing that the person was going to get an arrest warrant, yet continuing the BS? it's more than just the 5k that the car was worth

Quote from CLKeenan : What if this lawsuit caused the dealership to go out of business and everyone employed by the company lost their jobs? Still worth it?

They have 11 dealerships. I'm sure they have insurance. And do you want car salesmen to arrest and detain every person they have an issue with? They made a mistake and should have filed a civil suit. They shouldn't have used a repo man and the police to threaten and detain the customer.

What about the rights of the customer? I'm sure the dealership will settle out of court. They would be foolish to take this trial. They could lose even more money. But they deserve to pay something for how stupidly they acted. You don't say someone stole a vehicle - that's grand theft auto and a felony. You don't throw out charges like that when it was a clerical error.

If you practice bad business, then you deserve to go out of business. Chevy should give someone else the dealership. Someone who knows how to run a business.

Quote from slapshot136 : isn't that what most companies do nowadays? take advantage of the people as much as they can get away with? what's wrong with a person doing the opposite, taking advantage of a company as much as they can get away with (2.2 million)? if for some reason the person paid an extra 5k, what would his options be if the company wasn't willing to work with him about it? sue them in court over a written contract?

To your first point- I didn't say he shouldn't get the 2.2 million. All I was pointing out was that kyoto said he was ok with doing something as long as he didn't get caught. I hope he does take a big payout. They shouldn'y be able to do this type of thing and not be hurting for it after. I was just getting at the fact that if you do something and hope you don't get caught its still just as bad. The dealership should have honored their mistake and taken action to make sure the employee's know what happened.

Second point- Yes, that would be his option and he win if the contract said he over paid 5k or lose most likely lose if the contract stated the amount he paid was correct.

If you see it overall the point is mostly retaliating against the dealership. Someone mentioned and its very truth that how many times have dealerships added an additional $5600 yet they dont get arrested? Dealerships usually always make the consumer overpay unless you have done all your homework and are very prepared to work a good deal. Is 2.2 million a bit to much yea, but its to show dealerships not to get ahead of themselfs and think they can do whatever they want like arrest someone for there own mistakes. If the dealership was smart they would of gone and negotiated this with the guy instead of have him arrested and sent to jail.

Quote from happyhunting : So you're willing to take advantage of people as long as you don't get caught is what you're saying?

yep, that's exactly what i am saying. if no one cares and they don't do their job to audit the sale then it's exactly what it is their fault.
How would I know y they discount the car for $5600 at first place. So, great i got a slickdeal and no one cares.
Now, y would anyone have such a low moral and want to get someone fired is beyond me.

Quote from StarNova : The dealership made an honest mistake, but they did make a mistake and sold the car. They should have eaten the cost and chalked it up to experience. But no, they decided to go back to the guy and fight for the money they lost on a bad deal. How many people who bought a car from that dealer and overpaid 5600 would get their money back? Zero. I hope the guy wins the suit and gets a million or two. It will send a clear message to all the dealerships that you can't screw or intimidate people.

I bet a lot of people would give back. The guy even said he would go back but I guess being a loser that he is he didn't. Didn't expect much on SD anyway lol

Quote from StarNova : The dealership made an honest mistake, but they did make a mistake and sold the car. They should have eaten the cost and chalked it up to experience. But no, they decided to go back to the guy and fight for the money they lost on a bad deal. How many people who bought a car from that dealer and overpaid 5600 would get their money back? Zero. I hope the guy wins the suit and gets a million or two. It will send a clear message to all the dealerships that you can't screw or intimidate people.

I remember working for a Nissan Dealership for a month. We got this old used car for a trade in and paid $500 for it. Turn around and resold it the next day to this other guy for $5,500. Guess, what? If that same guy who purchased the car came back and said, "you only got it for $500 and you sold it to me for $5,500, you rip me off."......You know what the dealer would of said? "Too freaking bad." I felt sorry for the guy because I felt he got ripped off. My co worker, his superviser and the General Manager....they were quite happy to take that money.

Don't feel bad for car dealership. They will rob you blind and bend your wife over ever chance they get and they won't feel sorry for you.

Quote from kyotuosa : I bet a lot of people would give back. The guy even said he would go back but I guess being a loser that he is he didn't. Didn't expect much on SD anyway lol

It was an honest mistake and the customer did verbally agree to the new price. However, it was a clerical error and the dealership did sell the car at a lower price. Legally the customer is in the clear.

The moral thing to do would be to sign the new contract and keep the verbal agreement. Legally, I think the customer is okay. I do think the car dealer should have taken the customer to civil or small claims court for the difference. Small claims usually tap out at 5K but they would have gotten the bulk of their money back. Unfortunately, they overreacted and sent the repo man and the police to intimidate and arrest the customer.

A mistake in paperwork is not grand theft auto. Personally, I would have gone back and signed the new contract since I agreed to it. Legally, the dealership may have screwed themselves with their clerical error. Either way, the damage is done and they are facing a serious lawsuit that will cost them dearly.

Quote from calnbs : I remember working for a Nissan Dealership for a month. We got this old used car for a trade in and paid $500 for it. Turn around and resold it the next day to this other guy for $5,500. Guess, what? If that same guy who purchased the car came back and said, "you only got it for $500 and you sold it to me for $5,500, you rip me off."......You know what the dealer would of said? "Too freaking bad." I felt sorry for the guy because I felt he got ripped off. My co worker, his superviser and the General Manager....they were quite happy to take that money. Don't feel bad for car dealership. They will rob you blind and bend your wife over ever chance they get and they won't feel sorry for you.

Exactly! Think about this for a moment - the ONLY reason that car dealers exist is to charge as much money as they possibly can for the car you want. What VALUE do they add?

If I, as an informed consumer, know exactly what car I want with exactly what options; and I have financing or cash in hand - I STILL have to go do the negotiation dance with the dealer & pay them THOUSANDS of dollars more than they paid to the manufacturer for that car. Dealers add zero value to informed buyers, but we're still forced to pay their overhead.

Yeah, I don't feel sorry for the dealer at all in this instance.

Quote from Jeffbx : Exactly! Think about this for a moment - the ONLY reason that car dealers exist is to charge as much money as they possibly can for the car you want. What VALUE do they add? If I, as an informed consumer, know exactly what car I want with exactly what options; and I have financing or cash in hand - I STILL have to go do the negotiation dance with the dealer & pay them THOUSANDS of dollars more than they paid to the manufacturer for that car. Dealers add zero value to informed buyers, but we're still forced to pay their overhead. Yeah, I don't feel sorry for the dealer at all in this instance.

Most people can get taken when they buy a vehicle. The dealer made a mistake and lost 5600 on a clerical error. They could have sued the customer in civil court or tried other means to get their money back. They didn't. They will be paying a lot more than 5600 and the bad press that goes although with this story.

Quote from StarNova : It was an honest mistake and the customer did verbally agree to the new price. However, it was a clerical error and the dealership did sell the car at a lower price. Legally the customer is in the clear. The moral thing to do would be to sign the new contract and keep the verbal agreement. Legally, I think the customer is okay. I do think the car dealer should have taken the customer to civil or small claims court for the difference. Small claims usually tap out at 5K but they would have gotten the bulk of their money back. Unfortunately, they overreacted and sent the repo man and the police to intimidate and arrest the customer. A mistake in paperwork is not grand theft auto. Personally, I would have gone back and signed the new contract since I agreed to it. Legally, the dealership may have screwed themselves with their clerical error. Either way, the damage is done and they are facing a serious lawsuit that will cost them dearly.

Actually i misread ur original post. So my reply doesnt really make sense.

I agree dealership is wrong to arrest the guy thats y i said they r the dumbass

Quote from kyotuosa : Actually i misread ur original post. So my reply doesnt really make sense. I agree dealership is wrong to arrest the guy thats y i said they r the dumbass

You made sense. I can see the point you were trying to make. I do think the customer should have gone and signed the new contract - since they did agree to do so. It's more a question of character, not legal obligation. Dealership is the larger dumb@ss. Customer is a smaller one. Fair point.