Any thoughts on the Pioneer VSX-851k for 74.99 as a secondary receiver?? I did manage to find a few places with Open box Denon AVR-1912 for 168.99 and the elusive Clearance 199.99 but that would be a considerable hike to get it. While the Denon is a very nice receiver (coming from someone who has an Denon AVR-790), I wonder if the cost of all the extra features is worth the upgrade or just get better speakers.
I bought the Denon 1712 as a refurb about six months ago. It is a great receiver. it put put my previous Pioneer to shame.
Last Saturday I picked up the clearence pioneer vsx-821-k at BB for $74.99 for my garage. It has a very weak fm tuner if you want stereo. Mono fm pulls in a lot of stations.
1712 is a great bargain if you can find it around $200.
(+) audyssey XT, 90w per channel @ 7.1
(-) no USB plug in for ipod/iphone (vs 1612), no networking (vs 1912)
the new version 1713 has audyssey XT, USB plug-in, airplay and networking capabilities, but only 5.1 out @ 75w per channel. However, real life applications this wattage difference is minor (~5w per channel)
To whoever said denon's "low end" receivers are not any better than all of the other low end receivers out there, that's completely false. If you care about sound and not other non-vital bells and whistles, denon posts very modest wattage in their receiver vs other "low end" receivers who may use peak wattage. Many other similar priced receivers do not have the Audyssey multi-point calibration function, which is essential in working out good sound from your speakers with each home's setup, unless you have professional audio installation tools.
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