Upstate NY is filled with one thing, Canadian shoppers on Black friday, thus the lines, since they have no holidays that weekend they come over and raid our stores. This means twice as many shoppers as usual since we have the entire population of Ontario coming over on our BF. They get hotels and everything and make a weekend out of it. The 7 days is for big stores like Best Buy and Walmart. Things will be interesting with with the Wii U releasing close to BF that is for sure. Don't even try to get into the mall.
Sadly Thanksgiving has been ruined by this ridiculous greedy shopping day.
Must be nice to have the luxury, the extra income and all, to be able to say that.
Lotta folks go to such extremes on BF because it's the difference between having, and not having. "Whatever it is." (Folks will often chime in at this point and say that poor folks should not waste their money on a TV or whatever.)
Look at it this way, saving $250 might be saving a weeks take home pay for someone. For the working poor, $250 might be a couple of months scraping a few dollars here, some change there together.
If you really care about people, real honest hardworking people, tell your political reps to up the minimum wage to something folks can live off of.
Quote from TxdoHawk :
SMH, all those poor employees gotta work Thanksgiving day. Kmart/Sears should be ashamed of themselves.
Yes, it is SO much better to be poor (ya know, financially, not in the feeling sorry sense) and lose all that income for the holidays, than to get paid time and a half, or more, to work.
Quote from Vujacicfan :
Are they seriously going to make people work on Thanksgiving? That is just some seriously messed up stuff.
Just as messed up as forcing them to take an unpaid day off. Instead of saving up for Christmas presents, folks gotta save up to cover the bills when their paychecks drop for the holidays.
Why not stuff some extra $5's in your wallet for Thanksgiving and the other holidays, and tip a few of these folks. Make them a little happier for being there that day.
Quote from dafriz :
"shrug" sux to work thanksgiving but i get paid double during it.. just happy im not doing the open to close on thanksgiving and then haivng to go back at 3 am to get stuff ready the day after
Grin, so, someone in the middle of the debate...likes days off, but can use the extra cash.
I expect you've got coworkers who land on the "glad I could earn the extra money" side, and some that really hate having to come in.
And probably quite a few that are just glad to have a job, period.
Quote from A.Guy :
When I had the displeasure of working in a retail wasteland, I actually preferred working Thanksgiving day. Get paid time and a half, and the store saw maybe 100 people all day.
Same thing back when I was in college. I much preferred getting time and a half versus getting lectured by grandma... not a hard choice for some folks!
Quote from jplayland :
There will be news stories talking about how they are ruining Thanksgiving. This is a risky move for a store. They will get a lot of pushback from the public for making a move like this. They really shouldn't screw around with the holiday, it's not a shopping holiday. The intention is to give thanks for what we have, not go out and try to get some more stuff. I think midnight should be the earliest a store should try to push out to. There would have to be one hell of a deal to make me skip one of our best holidays.
Personally I agree with how you feel. Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday, because it's the one most focused on being together with people that you care about. (Christmas being a close second, being focused on giving presents to people that you care abut )
That said, you can rest assured that enough people like the idea versus don't that the store has done the math and figures they'll make more money doing the crazy hours than if they don't.
If it was at all risky, they wouldn't do it.
Quote from Ineedadealinny :
End the process and leave Thanksgiving to be enjoyed as a family. There are other days to shop. There are other days to go to the movies. But how many days are there to be with your loved ones?
364 other days I believe. Sometimes 365, leap year and all that.
Nothing saying your family can't get together on Saturday. Mine's been doing multiple "Thanksgivings" for years. Turned out to be the best way to deal with internal family politics after Granny died and Grandpa wasn't interested in having 100-150 people annually invade anymore. Might do the folks on T-Day, hit my brothers on the Monday before, another brother the following weekend. It varies, but really works better for us. No one gets lost in the mix, the folks that want to can play host, and there's a week (or more) of good eating!
And, ya know, not everyone has loved ones. Sad, but very true. Many would rather work than be home alone, reminded that they are home, alone. Friend of mine volunteers to work every holiday, sometimes double shifts. Adds somewhere around an extra $10k a year to his paycheck doing it too. (At his pay rate, he can rake in an extra $1-2k working a single/double shift on a holiday. Obviously not in retail...but the points the same. Sick folks need care 365!)
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