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11-11-2012, 06:42 AM

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Touchpads are off-center on PCs because Apple has a patent on them being centered. If you want a centered touchpad, buy a Mac.

What do you mean? It's only about the number pad. There are plenty of windows laptops that do not have a number pad that have a centered touchpad. For example, look at the $399 BF deal on Sams Club

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11-11-2012, 07:36 AM

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My question is why do all laptops have numberpads and an offset touchpad. This just seems really stupid if you ask me.

Apple has the patent on centered touchpads.

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11-11-2012, 07:41 AM

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What do you mean? It's only about the number pad. There are plenty of windows laptops that do not have a number pad that have a centered touchpad. For example, look at the $399 BF deal on Sams Club

You asked why laptops have a 1) number pad and 2) an off center touchpad. I was only answering your question about the off center touchpad. I suspect that your other question about the number pad is driven by screen size and whether or not there is room for it. Ie., 14" or smaller laptops do not usually have number pads while 15.6" and larger typically do.

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11-11-2012, 07:45 AM

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Thanks. But the 14" without number pads have a centered touchpad. That's why the patent issue wasn't clear to me.

I've never used a laptop with a number pad. I may get one for accounting glass, so I see how that might come in handy.

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11-11-2012, 08:53 AM

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Halp?

Is this a good deal for a laptop that can at least run current games? I was thinking about maybe waiting until BF or Cyber Monday to see if any seriously good deals show up, but I really haven't been impressed with any of the ads thus far. It's not urgent that I get one soon, so I can wait too if there's a better time to look, but I wouldn't want to let this deal slip if it's a really decent one.

if you want to game, ignore any computer that says "Intel HD xxxx"
Intel graphics are generally useless for gaming [literally useless by comparison], at least when compared to a Radeon or an Nvidia.

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11-11-2012, 09:06 AM

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oops..i posted this on a different thread a few hours ago but meant to post it here...so im copying and pasting it again here...

bummer. for those who want the target gateway laptop. I just read this post. If this is true, and there are only 6 gateway target laptops, then unless you are one of the first 6 people in line (having gotten to the store 12 hours earlier to wait) it will be extremely impossible.

To be realistic, I think we should all have like five or six backup choices. Also, The laptops that are on page 1 of any store's BF circular are going to be really hard to get...they will likely have a limited quantity like 6 or 12.

I am going to try to score one online. Because doorbusters often go online. I think it will still be a good deal, but maybe not as good as target gateway deal. Knowing what specs and what price range to look for is helpful.

Also, everyone. Keep an eye on this site because there could be a laptop deal that is doorbuster hot that shows up before black friday. Like the 399 i5 from a couple days ago. I nearly jumped on that one, but just wanted to see what the black friday laptop prices were first. Turns out That one was the same price as the lowest priced i5 at Sam's on black friday.

Also, anyone know if i5 is better than a6 processor?
And is memory expensive to upgrade the laptop, say from 4gb to 8gb. And is it hard to install or to find specific memory for upgrading your laptop?

i5 is better than an a6.

also be sure to specify which. there are many generations and configurations of i5's and a8's and such. an a8-3500 is quite obviously less powerful than an a8-4500. [about 30% less powerful] and similar with the i5's although their numbers are a bit more deceiving, as some lower numbers are more powerful than higher numbers, or less powerful but better priced based on the power.

generally though, i5's are better than a6.
memory is pretty easy to upgrade, even someone inexperienced could do it with a youtube guide.

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11-11-2012, 09:50 AM

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i5 is better than an a6.

also be sure to specify which. there are many generations and configurations of i5's and a8's and such. an a8-3500 is quite obviously less powerful than an a8-4500. [about 30% less powerful] and similar with the i5's although their numbers are a bit more deceiving, as some lower numbers are more powerful than higher numbers, or less powerful but better priced based on the power.

generally though, i5's are better than a6.
memory is pretty easy to upgrade, even someone inexperienced could do it with a youtube guide.

Thanks, is memory expensive? The one I just bought has 6gb ram, so it will probably only be upgradable to 8 right?

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11-11-2012, 09:58 AM

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What about generally i5 vs a8?

only AMD A8-3850 is a little better than i5. all other A8 sucks.

Use this site to find out which one is better.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobi...436.0.html

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11-11-2012, 10:14 AM

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only AMD A8-3850 is a little better than i5. all other A8 sucks.

Use this site to find out which one is better.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobi...436.0.html

Thanks for that list. I feel better about my i5 purchase now. I got the i5-3210 (ranked #50) which from the list is about equal to the a8-3850 (ranked #49) which is the most powerful a8 model.

It looks like most of i5 and a good number of i3 (!!!) generally rank above the a8 from that list.

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11-11-2012, 10:15 AM

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What about generally i5 vs a8?

what the other guy said.
but i think you might find this easier to understand:
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/mid_range_cpus.html

unless the i5 is really old, then a8 is gonna lose out*, to compare simply cntrl f your way with a8 and i5 and you can see a lot of comparisons very easily.

but dont pay THAT much attention to processing power. even for gaming processor isnt THAT big of a deal [dont get me wrong, it is significantly important] - its all the graphics card thats doing the heavy lifting. i use a a6-3400m [1.4 ghz quad core] for gaming on this laptop, and it never even goes above 50% use; its my graphics card that is buckling under the pressure.

unless youre doing something really cpu intensive, you wont need to be that picky about what processor you get.

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11-11-2012, 11:02 AM

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I read the reviews on the lenovo's site. Apparently, you can't upgrade the RAM. Its solder in. The battery is not user replaceable. I too was thinking of getting it, but those two things pulled me off.

Solder-in RAM? Seriously? Blegh. I can maybe live with the non-replaceable battery (realistically, the chances of me being away from an outlet for any duration and still wanting to use anything but a Kindle is unlikely), but the RAM is non-negotiable. At this point, I max out the RAM on any machine before I even get all the drivers installed, so that I can't upgrade is stupid. Why on earth would anyone solder in RAM?

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Thanks, is memory expensive? The one I just bought has 6gb ram, so it will probably only be upgradable to 8 right?

Easiest way to figure it out is to power up that machine and run Crucial's upgrade assessor. But if you know the exact model, you can just enter that on the Crucial website. If your machine came with 6GB, I actually wonder if you might not have a model that is upgradable to 16GB. (But now I'm stuck wondering what RAM configuring will give you 6GB. They sell 3GB RAM sticks now?)

As to that first question, though, RAM is dirt cheap. Unless you are indeed upgrading to 16GB, you likely won't spend more than $100 (including shipping).

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11-11-2012, 11:10 AM

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Why on earth would anyone solder in RAM?

Not quite sure on how non upgradable RAM is done. User reviews here [lenovo.com]

There is an 8GB model sold in the lenovo site.

Always remember to post that you've used a code and rep. Big Grin

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11-11-2012, 12:40 PM

heartshacker L1: Learner Member sinceApr 2012 Posts18 Reputation 14 Followers 0 + Give Rep	confused about so may option. I am looking for I5 + 6/8 GB ram + 500 GB hdd around $500. Planning for https://blackfriday.bestbuy.com/product/6819278 What do u think? Is there any better offer that I shall consider?
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11-11-2012, 02:45 PM

bbcbls L5: Journeyman Member sinceNov 2006 Posts622 Reputation 374 Followers 0 + Give Rep	Is it possible to add saying if that laptop can be bought online or store only, that would be another helpful column to be added. Slickdeals FAQ Link
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11-11-2012, 02:53 PM

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I like numberpads. They're really useful for a business-oriented laptop. I find myself using the touchpad a lot when doing work at home. For a personal laptop, I think most people don't find the numberpad that useful (unless you know Word shortcuts that won't work without a numberpad - ARG!!!). In any case, it's only the 15.6" and above laptops that have them. Smaller ones won't.

As for the offset touchpad, are they really all offset? I can honestly say I've never noticed. Now that I'm looking at them, it does look offset, which I suppose is aesthetically unappealing but is rather useful in being able to use one thumb to do some quick movements. Is it really that big an issue?

Thanks for your input. I guess I mean the trackpad isn't centered in the computer, looks weird. But for me, I just think it just crams the keyboard into a smaller space. I am going to business school next year so I need one with a number pad.

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