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If you bring these in to a mechanic to install, what's a reasonable price to get charged for a front brake pads install?
Although I'm reading they are easy to install, I don't have the proper tools and equipment to do it. Plus I don't want to be the guinea pig for my first brake pad install.
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Um... Go for it...
"Reasonable" price? Your question is hard to answer for MANY reasons unfortunately... What kind of mechanic? A place like Pep Boys for example, an independent shop, or someone you know? And then it depends on what part of the country you're in. Labor costs vary across the country... I charge people $50 to install, front or back, $100 for both. But I do brakes for friends/family, I'm not looking to make big bucks. You can expect to pay around $120 for front brakes (including pads) at a Pep Boys in the NorthEast for example... And I doubt the pads would be as good as these Bosch pads... Brakes, specifically DISC brakes, are CAKE dude, very easy to do, and hard to fúck up... As a previous poster described, in basic terms the process is as follows: Car up Wheel off Caliper swings up Pads out Pads in Caliper down and tightened Wheel on FINISHED :-). *(At "Pads out", use caliper tool to gently and EVENLY force piston back in to caliper to make space for new, thicker pads. If you don't apply the force perpendicular to the place of the pads, you risk scratching the piston housing with the piston... Not a big deal. Just find a good YouTube tutorial, there are several good ones in 720/1080 resolution.) I use a torque wrench for EVERYTHING (lug nuts are specially important). Good tools will cost you about $100 (I'm rounding up generously). Tools: $30 Socket Set (To install pads, to loosen one side of caliper and swing up) $20 Breaker bar + wheel socket to remove lug nuts $50 Torque wrench (there are torque specs for a reason, one reason: safety). I"m assuming you have a jack + at least one jack stand for safety... Anyway dude, if you're considering doing it, I say do it. There are 1,000 tutorials on the internet, you can buy a Haynes manual for $20, and it's really cake. Sure you'll pay up front for the tools, but if you plan on doing this in the future it will pay for itself in $$$ and convenience: $$$: Zero labor cost to you Convenience: Change your brakes when and where you feel like it, no appointments, no waiting in a waiting room, etc. Quality: The quality of the job is 100% dependent on you baby. No need to worry about some mechanic f*cking up your car :-) (it happens, I've seen it, I used to work as a mechanic). The time factor is one of the things I love about doing all of my own car work. For example: My starter died a few Saturdays ago on my 2002 Camry with ~135,000 miles on it... I had a friend pick me up, I bought the starter, installed it, and was good to go. In a matter of hours I was driving again, on a Saturday no less... I didn't have to rent a car (I was moving that weekend!!!!!), find a mechanic, make an appointment, wait in line, pay a markup on parts, pay some individual to install it... Same day service baby, I paid myself... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Had it been a Sunday I'd have been f*cked, because I wanted the Toyota part, but that's another story... :-). Last edited by _A2; 11-09-2012 at 06:13 AM.. _A²
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breaker bar is unnecessary, to remove wheel lugs? i've done brake jobs without a torque wrench before. just tighten by feel. the only thing I'll add is get a C clamp for $5 and a wood block to compress the piston. |
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QUOTE=_A2;54609420]"Reasonable" price? Your question is hard to answer for MANY reasons unfortunately... What kind of mechanic? A place like Pep Boys for example, an independent shop, or someone you know? And then it depends on what part of the country you're in. Labor costs vary across the country...
I charge people $50 to install, front or back, $100 for both. But I do brakes for friends/family, I'm not looking to make big bucks. You can expect to pay around $120 for front brakes (including pads) at a Pep Boys in the NorthEast for example... And I doubt the pads would be as good as these Bosch pads... Brakes, specifically DISC brakes, are CAKE dude, very easy to do, and hard to fúck up... As a previous poster described, in basic terms the process is as follows: Car up Wheel off Caliper swings up Pads out Pads in Caliper down and tightened Wheel on FINISHED :-). *(At "Pads out", use caliper tool to gently and EVENLY force piston back in to caliper to make space for new, thicker pads. If you don't apply the force perpendicular to the place of the pads, you risk scratching the piston housing with the piston... Not a big deal. Just find a good YouTube tutorial, there are several good ones in 720/1080 resolution.) I use a torque wrench for EVERYTHING (lug nuts are specially important). Good tools will cost you about $100 (I'm rounding up generously). Tools: $30 Socket Set (To install pads, to loosen one side of caliper and swing up) $20 Breaker bar + wheel socket to remove lug nuts $50 Torque wrench (there are torque specs for a reason, one reason: safety). I"m assuming you have a jack + at least one jack stand for safety... Anyway dude, if you're considering doing it, I say do it. There are 1,000 tutorials on the internet, you can buy a Haynes manual for $20, and it's really cake. Sure you'll pay up front for the tools, but if you plan on doing this in the future it will pay for itself in $$$ and convenience: $$$: Zero labor cost to you Convenience: Change your brakes when and where you feel like it, no appointments, no waiting in a waiting room, etc. Quality: The quality of the job is 100% dependent on you baby. No need to worry about some mechanic f*cking up your car :-) (it happens, I've seen it, I used to work as a mechanic). The time factor is one of the things I love about doing all of my own car work. For example: My starter died a few Saturdays ago on my 2002 Camry with ~135,000 miles on it... I had a friend pick me up, I bought the starter, installed it, and was good to go. In a matter of hours I was driving again, on a Saturday no less... I didn't have to rent a car (I was moving that weekend!!!!!), find a mechanic, make an appointment, wait in line, pay a markup on parts, pay some individual to install it... Same day service baby, I paid myself... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Had it been a Sunday I'd have been f*cked, because I wanted the Toyota part, but that's another story... :-).[/QUOTE] Well, there's also dealing with rusty calipers and stuck pistons, and maybe having to turn the rotor. Simple, but not quite so simple. Also, on your Toyota next time look into replacing just the starter contacts. If you can do brakes, you can do that. It's one of the few cars that can readily be done on and it gives the whole thing another new life - good for, yes, 130k. |
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I don't trust Bosch for their oem components...they always fail early on most euro cars. (alternator fail,spark plugs fail,pulleys fail, o2 sensor fail,coil pack fail right when your warranty runs out!) The reviews seem good but still hesitant. Monroe/bendix/oem/hawk/ebc are for sure better for normal driving.
As for changing your brakes it is very easy...you can find tutorials on youtube. A quick example would be a honda civic or toyota camry: Tools: Lug nut breaker bar ($0 included in your trunk) Jack ($0 included in your trunk) Size 14mm and 17mm wrench ($5 or more depending on quality of wrench) Large mouth plier ($5) Total cost: Price of pads+$10 Time: 1 minute to remove lug nuts, 1 minute to jack up car, 30 seconds remove tire, 1 minute to remove 1 or 2 bolts and pads, 1 minute to reset piston and install new pads, 1 minute to reinstall bolt/s and tire, 1 minute to torque lug nuts and remove jack. Total Time is 6 minutes 30 seconds per side for front on most cars. Rears may be more difficult if they are drum. Time will be a lot faster with power tools and a lift or better equipment. You can change your front pads in under 15 minutes for the cost of only the pads. Most of the time if you are not a crazy driver, you do not need to replace your rotor unless they are warped or under spec. With all that said, challenge yourself to do it yourself but don't risk it if you don't feel comfortable. Don't hate on mechanics either as they need to make a living also (dealerships can goto hell). Average price for brake change should be about 70-120 per axle. Knowledge is power and "the power is yours!" - *cues captain planet music* Last edited by trifenix; 11-09-2012 at 08:45 AM.. ![]() |
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I agree with you....if you have NEVER done it and do not have any tools, do not do it. Get someone to do them for you, and if possible, take careful note and watch them do it first. Then, if you ever do obtain the tools necessary, go ahead and try the next time. |
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Just your average college student trying to save some money.
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Going to order now and hopefully they come soon so I won't have to spring for a new sensor.
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