Lets talk 2016 and the Road to the White House

Too Soon guys ? Well not if you know math.

Look at the electorate numbers White fell below 73% of the electorate. Its in steady decline
https://prospect.org/state-vote

I am gonna call 2016 already for Hillary.

- Blacks, well she is Clinton's wife so they will vote for her
- Whites fall below 72% of the electorate again like in 2012 its a done deal
- Hispanics well its not like they will vote Republican.
- Women done deal. Hillary will take the vast majority (yes because shes a woman) get ready for the Pundits now. take a vaccine.

Unless Chris Christie, has a sex change losses 180lbs and turns african american the GOP already lost the White House in 2016 . Have a nice 8 years guys as irrelevant.

It's a little early for all of that

Christie easy.. He won in freakin NJ. All you have to do is look at their population: economics, race, etc.. His very honest and blunt style of politics is far too appealing vs. the standard "politician".

hillary clinton, martin o'malley, and julian castro will be in the mix in '16. maybe warren, but i think she'll settle in as a senate lifer. maybe beau biden, but i think he may be better suited for getting plugged into the supreme court.

Quote from HEATBaller : - Hispanics well its not like they will vote Republican.

Ron Paul was doing well with Hispanics. But neocons didn't care about that. Or about the youth vote. Or about fiscal conservatism. Or about small government. Or about....

Neocons are the problem. If Republicans want to win, they have to get rid of the neocons.

Rand Paul will win in 2016.

Quote from Deusxmachina : Ron Paul was doing well with Hispanics. But neocons didn't care about that. Or about the youth vote. Or about fiscal conservatism. Or about small government. Or about.... Neocons are the problem. If Republicans want to win, they have to get rid of the neocons. Rand Paul will win in 2016.

actually i hear rand paul is filing for argentinian citizenship. he thinks he should be a shoe-in since they lowered the voting age there to 16.

Quote from HEATBaller : Too Soon guys ? Well not if you know math. Look at the electorate numbers White fell below 73% of the electorate. Its in steady decline https://prospect.org/state-vote I am gonna call 2016 already for Hillary. - Blacks, well she is Clinton's wife so they will vote for her - Whites fall below 72% of the electorate again like in 2012 its a done deal - Hispanics well its not like they will vote Republican. - Women done deal. Hillary will take the vast majority (yes because shes a woman) get ready for the Pundits now. take a vaccine. Unless Chris Christie, has a sex change losses 180lbs and turns african american the GOP already lost the White House in 2016 . Have a nice 8 years guys as irrelevant.

There of plenty of women that hate Hilary and think she is awful. I don't know where you get the idea that women vote for women because they are women. Shouldn't a number of Tea Party women have benefited from such silly sexist ideas? (And McCain/Palin).

Im too depressed to talk about it.

I'll go NYC area centric: Christie vs Cuomo

Republicans are in trouble. The demographics do not favor them. It's funny to hear them bitch about it now they are saying Obama tapped into the worst fears of women, latinos, and blacks.

Let's not.

I think Republicans will have to elect a hispanic in the primary of 2016 to have a chance. For a MODERATE republican who understands ECONOMICS not able to beat a president who was basically Carter2.0 (Iran, high gas prices, high unemployment, devaluation of the dollar, etc.), I don't see a Republican winning the White House unless the next 4 years are DRASTICALLY worse than now. If things remain as is, Americans will be conditioned to except the new American standard much like Europe has accepted high gas prices and constant 10% unemployment.

Add the new entitlements Obama will create and Republican have no chance in the forseeable future. Heck, one only has to look at the financial dysfunction in California to see how one stay continues to elect high tax, high spending liberals over and over and over!

Rubio may be the clear choice for 2016 but the issue remains whether hispanics in the U.S. will relate to a Cuban rather than someone from South or Central American lineage.

The good news is that all the youth who voted for Obama this year will move into the conservative ranks when in the next few years, they will have to shell out $1000+ for health insurance or pay a fine and risk imprisonment. Add to the devaluation of the dollar and rising prices with their inability to get jobs out of college, if the Democrats can't hook them on entitlements early, they will not be voting for the party that is about to cause them a lot of fiscal and career discomfort.

Quote from Hurricane : I think Republicans will have to elect a hispanic in the primary of 2016 to have a chance. For a MODERATE republican who understands ECONOMICS not able to beat a president who was basically Carter2.0 (Iran, high gas prices, high unemployment, devaluation of the dollar, etc.), I don't see a Republican winning the White House unless the next 4 years are DRASTICALLY worse than now. If things remain as is, Americans will be conditioned to except the new American standard much like Europe has accepted high gas prices and constant 10% unemployment. Add the new entitlements Obama will create and Republican have no chance in the forseeable future. Heck, one only has to look at the financial dysfunction in California to see how one stay continues to elect high tax, high spending liberals over and over and over! Rubio may be the clear choice for 2016 but the issue remains whether hispanics in the U.S. will relate to a Cuban rather than someone from South or Central American lineage. The good news is that all the youth who voted for Obama this year will move into the conservative ranks when in the next few years, they will have to shell out $1000+ for health insurance or pay a fine and risk imprisonment. Add to the devaluation of the dollar and rising prices with their inability to get jobs out of college, if the Democrats can't hook them on entitlements early, they will not be voting for the party that is about to cause them a lot of fiscal and career discomfort.

Very true, living in Miami Rubio IS the Republicans Obama. He is central neutral on immigration. I have personal connections to Rubio having met him several times even volunteered for him. As a Democrat my Districts pertain to head of the DNC Debbie Wasserman-Shultz, and Illeana Ros Leithan very strong Cuban American. I can't say bad thing about Rubio.

My predictions are, the next 4 years like the previous 4 Obama campaigned 4 years against Romney not many people realize that.

Now the DNC will campaign 4 years against Rubio and do everything to make him look bad. On his voting record. (Why Rubio not Christie, well No matter what Christie won't turn NJ Red so its a loss Rubio will turn FL Red) end of story Electoral votes.

Why?

Obama won OHIO razor thin, 2 more visits by Romney to OHIO and 20 million dollars more in the right counties may have swung OHIO. So its in play

Rubio runs in 2016 he takes Florida hands down he will even get my vote for reasons I won't post here. Period. And probably OHIO

He takes

+ A good part of the youth vote
+ Splits White males
+ Will not lose women as badly as Romney did
+ Hispanics will be an even bigger voting block in 4 years and he will take 80% of them
+ Blacks again heavily democratic but he will get more than Romney

What Rubio needs to do is spend the next 4 years helping the poor to distance himself from Romney's 47% comments. And building himself in Miami's poor latino and black areas.

2016 I am calling it now Rubio vs. Clinton If you thought 2008 was historic Get some popcorn.

on VP choices look to Hillary to pick someone from OHIO native son to secure OHIO and Look to Rubio to take a VP choice from Virginia to try take Virginia. Both for Electoral votes.

If its Rubio vs Biden, Its Rubio in a land slide.

The Republican Party is a mess and there will be no easy fix for them . Keep the far right base happy, you scare away the emerging demographics. Play to the emerging demographics and you upset the far right base who won't vote or will go for a third party/ tea party like candidate. And Rubio isn't going to fix this issue which is decades in the making.