anyone else annoyed at the 8PM BF start times?

Drinking and driving is another big issue. I host the holiday for a very large gathering with three turkeys, one ham and all the sides. With that I serve wine and beer, I work hard to ensure the "drivers" are not intoxicated, so others can be drunk stuffed and merry. Now I have to worry about people ruining out after dinner who may be tipsy or just buzzed I hope the CEOs realize they suck asssssss as they ruin the holiday / or the shopping fun for us all.

This actually works out quite well for me. The people who are there for the doorbusters will be long gone by the time I get there for games and movies. Most of those are well stocked and last well into the afternoon on friday unless its a hot title at an absurd price.

So for those against the Thurs evening opening times, how many of you will not go out, but instead will sit at home ignoring your family while you shop online? That's more disrespectful than just getting up and leaving after dinner.
Better yet, after dinner why doesn't the whole family get up and go shopping? Then everyone gets to stay together and work off some of the 3,000 calorie dinner everyone had.

I agree that this is absolute bullshit. No one should have to leave their Thanksgiving dinner to stand in line a few hours early to ensure they get the items they want.

And none of that "you don't have to go" crap. Black Friday is SUPPOSED to be FRIDAY, not Thursday. I expect to be able to celebrate Thanksgiving and then go shopping for deals the next day. I rely on a lot of those deals for Christmas gifts, being a poor college graduate. Ugh. Annoying.

Quote from link626 : Thanksgiving is overrated. get in line ! you can have your big fat dinner on Saturday. Who says you must have it on Thursday? Change up the rules.

Do you go out for New Years Eve on January 2? Open Christmas presents on Dec. 27?

In the US Thanksgiving Day is the fourth Thursday in November. It's a non secular Holiday and for many it is very important.

I think people are getting too worked up over nothing, black Friday will not be the only day with deals. No one is forced to go, your dinner can still resume on Thursday just don't expect people to wait for you to finish it. I can see how it would be upsetting but honestly I think 8 p.m. is a fair hour to start it could be far worse.

they have destroyed thanksgiving! I'm irate, BF is now BT and its no longer fun. I'll never trade family time with material objects. fark you target and walmart!!

I love it, it allows me to hit multiple stores finally! I've never done an overnight thing, I was planning on it this year

I like it, our family usually all get together and eat at 1pm, watch some football, eat some cold sandwiches about 6 and separate. Leave there and I can go straight to WallyWorld, perfect for me anyway

There is a petition going on at Change.org which was started by an actual Target employee here [change.org]

Quote from xtrabad : What a bunch of whiney little consumers in this thread. Nobody is forcing you to: a) celebrate Thanksgiving on a given day or time, or at all for that matter b) shop on a given day or time, or at all for that matter c) work in the retail industry Have some gonads and do what works best for YOUR life, and quit whining. This thread is a joke already. Grow up.

Quote from MrBlackFriday : You sound mad because other people have family responsibilities to take care of and you don't. Is this the case?

LOL, I am not mad. I have family responsibilities...if you only knew. In fact, I will attend 2 dinners on Thanksgiving Day. The difference is I don't expect the world to stop turning or stores to change their policies because I will make the choice to attend those dinners rather than shop in the store.

I will also work BF all day at my non-retail job this year like I have for the past 20 years. Big deal. I don't expect the rest of America to delay shopping to wait for me because I have to work on BF. My point is people here are whining and have this sense of entitlement like spoiled 12 year olds. Everyone has choices. Some choices are not always great but you make them and move forward rather than complain like a kid that can't have his or her way.

As I said before, many here need to grow up and do what is best for their situation. If shopping is your priority, great, shut up and go for it. If family is your priority, great, stay home. Wait for a SD down the road. Value the time with family over some stupid iPad if that is what moves you. Whatever. Bottom line is there are choices that work which don't necessitate whining because of missing a doorbuster for some crappy $150 HDTV or other item.

Quote from xtrabad : My point is people here are whining and have this sense of entitlement like spoiled 12 year olds. As I said before, many here need to grow up and do what is best for their situation. If shopping is your priority, great, shut up and go for it.

Maybe some are whining but my position is that this is a national Holiday. Times change but in the past there was some reverance for the day and Friday was the official kick off of the Holiday shopping season.

People do enjoy shopping. People like bargains, this site existing is a testament to that. By opening their stores at 8 PM (or earlier) on Thanksgiving the stores are saying if you want a bargain that may never be duplicated you have to give up part of your Holiday and get in line.

Sure you don't have to shop if you don't want but maybe you can understand why some people don't like the early openings and not just tell them to shut up.

It's illegal to open retail stores on Thanksgiving day in Maine so I'm kind of curious how our local ads will differ from the national. I'm guessing this means that I can take advantage of all the sales online on Thanksgiving day and will only need to wander out Friday morning if I can't get a couple of things online.

More info on Maine law : http://www.sunjournal.com/city/story/946944

Quote from Illini Al : Better yet, after dinner why doesn't the whole family get up and go shopping? Then everyone gets to stay together and work off some of the 3,000 calorie dinner everyone had.

You can't work off too many calories waiting in a 3 hour line to check out. We did the after Thanksgiving meal shopping thing last year with family. At Kohls, the line wrapped around the entire interior of the store. Left with nothing.