GUN Kel-Tec P-11 $223 9mm 10+1 (or more) P11 gun

Good price on a p11
CDNN has chromed slide models for 229, but no free shipping.

depends on what state you're in.

most states actually have no such law.

A lot of gun mfg's include some sort of lock though.
If they don't often a dealer will even when not required to, even for free often.

If you do not have a gun lock contact your local PD to see if they have free locks.
there are organizations with gun lock programs like the NSSF.
http://www.projectchildsafe.org


The P11 is targeted at the conceal carry market.
Most wont buy it for a range gun.

most do not unload their carry guns at night.
If you're buying it for home defense a lock won't be of any use.
If it's not to be carried I'd suggest something larger since concealment/weight is not an issue.

For those with kids old enough to know what a gun is educate them rather then depend on a lock (some of which are easy to break)

For the little ones that don't know what a gun is I might suggest a gun with a magazine disconnect.. the Ruger LC9 I believe has one and is similar to the p11

When you take the magazine out the gun will not fire (even with one in the chamber)
So you can use the magazine Like a "key".. keep the mag with you and the gun on your night stand/drawer.

Im not a fan of mag disconnects but it could very well be useful in situations where the gun needs to be accessible but not operable if anyone else gets it.

Or you could look into a quick access safe, the good ones aren't cheap and still not as fast as "ready at hand" but it's a much better then a trigger/cable lock and offers a good blend of sped and security.

http://www.atf.gov/press/releases...locks.html'

I believe it is federal law that all new handguns come with a lock. I have never bought one that hasn't included one, but I agree.... I never use locks.

I stand corrected.

Hmm someone broke this law on me twice then.

I bought a Taurus 92 used off GB and did'nt get a lock.
I bought 4 ATI 92's from CDNN and none of those had locks (imported from turkey)

Rep to Op for being a Ron Paul supporter!

lmao! Hey J.. I forgot your screen name for a sec.. didn't know it was you

Research the reviews on this gun before you get excited. I have personally fired this model and was not really impressed. The trigger pull is extremely heavy.. worst than most heavy revolvers. Had a few FTF as well.. just research the model first and see what other shooters have to say.

Somewhat mixed reviews..

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalo...Round+Blue

Good price on a p11
CDNN has chromed slide models for 229, but no free shipping.

I believe it is federal law that all new handguns come with a lock. I have never bought one that hasn't included one, but I agree.... I never use locks.

I believe it's only new guns from FFLs. Private party, and used they are not obligated to give you a lock.

(z) Secure Gun Storage or Safety Device.—
(1) In general.— Except as provided under paragraph (2), it shall be unlawful for any licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer to sell, deliver, or transfer any handgun to any person other than any person licensed under this chapter, unless the transferee is provided with a secure gun storage or safety device (as defined in section 921 (a)(34)) for that handgun.

Heh, yep, I know that CDNN deal has been around for a bit and is why I never bothered posting other P11 deals for quite a while. It's been a long time since I've seen any P11 under $225 shipped.

I have a box of trigger locks still in the plastic bags. They make nice paperweights, I guess.

The most amusing ones are the huge ones that look like bicycle locks.

I checked the law after you pointed it out.

It's required on all handgun's transferred FFL -> Non-Licensees, New or Used.

The Taurus was used, the ATI's from CDNN was new.
It seems ultimately the FFL doing the transfer is at fault.

both went thru a FFL since they was coming from out of state.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/922

Same here. I always keep them in the plastic too, because it looks good when I sell a gun if I have all the original stuff.

What? You sell a gun?

If I did have to sell one, then yes having all the original stuff is more desirable.

I sell all the time, so I can buy different ones. One nice thing about the private gun market, is that when you buy and sell, you very rarely have to take a loss. I normally get my money back or make a profit to buy something bigger, and badder.

My husband asked for a "glock 9mm" for christmas last month half joking. Im sure he would like one, he just thinks I wouldnt get one. I dont want to ask him any more questions on it for a better chance at a surprise but I should have asked him more then. I thought that was a straight simple thing to buy but now at this point Ive learned my lesson, apparently its not! Any suggestions on what would be best to buy.... what version options he would be wanting? Happy to rep for help!